LP bedrocan lowers price from 7.50 to 5.00 a gram

Sunrise Medicinal said:

The growers/sellers who operate within the legal system i laid out wouldnt be operating in the black market anymore. anyone growing/selling outside of that system would be in the black market but that market would shrink just like with smokes and booze... people can still grow all they want for themselves and friends/family. They just cant sell it commerically without it going though the middle man test facillity. There has to be some compromise, the only system that works is a system where the government has some control and gets its taxes...

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still a bit broken. when you go to a farmers market, people are allowed to sell what they have grown. there's no testing there.
if you go to a "U Pick" farm and pick your own...there's no testing. why would you say it has to be tested by going through a middle man.
when LP's produce the same quality as my "friends" then i might consider it..doubtful though. i trust my "friends" and check out what i get.. i trust myself also.
i will never bow to something I am being forced into and the Government is trying to force us into buying from LP's.
the bottom line for us here is you can shine up turds all you want. some may reflect light and some you may be able to see yourself in because of such a bang up job shining it but the bottom line is it's still a turd.
bad weed is bad weed...irradiated weed is bad weed. staing it's one potency and then doing personal testing and it comes out a lot less than what was "advertised" won't win friends.
when that LP was nailed for the same thing-testing came back with lower THC-their response was that their processes fall in line with HC regulations...what on Gods green earth does that have to do with the situation. they deflect by saying "we followed what we were told to do" instead of saying sorry and giving customer service. retest it and see what happens but at a different facility. if they come back very different, maybe the lab that's testing is exaggerating...and that's bad. same as false advertising and we know that happens a lot
until they do things that gain trust and treat patient with some dignity instead of "too bad", LP's will be viewed as bad. they need to change that view.
if they do that, they may get more business but right now we feel like only our wallets matter

Testing all weed just adds an unnecessary expense. Almost all the weed ever consumed was never tested. And the absence of corpses seems to indicate it's okay to smoke or use untested weed. ddduhhhhh.
I mean if that's what a person wants...well okay. But it's going to cost you extra.
The anal-ness of this testing nonsense is pathetic. Good job again HC.
If your not the " Bubble Boy " ...your probably gonna be ok.

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I'm glad HC makes them test it all...It's fuckin up their very own system. Lovin it.

BOYCOTT GREED and YOUR OWN CAPTURE

when a Government gets involved, they mess it up. almost always. they think they're "
experts" and don't listen to the real experts...then their way fails and they tuck their tails between their legs and ask what went wrong. why not save time and $$ by listening first. go along for the ride instead of trying to drive the bus.

The Hippy said:

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I'm glad HC makes them test it all...It's fuckin up their very own system. Lovin it.

BOYCOTT GREED and YOUR OWN CAPTURE

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yes Sir..and they'r going to use that in order to open up like Dispensaries... so both sides can use each other in that respect at least...both try and be a like...
lol... Goood luck with that

Sunrise Medicinal said:

well at that point the market wouldn't be black and the growers/sellers not criminals anymore so at that point the industry should absolutley thrive. The once opon a time criminal would be a legal tax paying entrepreneur

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Yeah so this is pretty out to lunch.
Here's what people don't understand : If 'legal' is more hassle than the BM, people will use the BM. People will be even more inclined to use the BM when there are no penalties for them once possession is legalized.
We're going on 3 threads now, and no one has been able to point to this epidemic of people getting sick from 'untested' weed, because there is none. 'Testing' is just another way to stigmatize the plant.
And 'compromise'? There was no compromise for the MMPR, patients were thrown under the bus and corporations were given a captive market on a silver platter. So no, there doesn't need to be 'compromise'. There needs to be a sensible system, and those who want the nanny state to protect them from an evil plant are delusional if they think that won't make the BM thrive. Legalization will be a spectacular failure with needless government controls, basically a solution in search of a problem (that doesn't exist).

JungleStrikeGuy said:

Yeah so this is pretty out to lunch.
Here's what people don't understand : If 'legal' is more hassle than the BM, people will use the BM. People will be even more inclined to use the BM when there are no penalties for them once possession is legalized.
We're going on 3 threads now, and no one has been able to point to this epidemic of people getting sick from 'untested' weed, because there is none. 'Testing' is just another way to stigmatize the plant.
And 'compromise'? There was no compromise for the MMPR, patients were thrown under the bus and corporations were given a captive market on a silver platter. So no, there doesn't need to be 'compromise'. There needs to be a sensible system, and those who want the nanny state to protect them from an evil plant are delusional if they think that won't make the BM thrive. Legalization will be a spectacular failure with needless government controls, basically a solution in search of a problem (that doesn't exist).

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No epidemic. Testing is just creating regulations where none need to exist for the sole reason of keeping the price per gram high. More green rush nonsense this time from a dispensarys pov. How's the bm doing in the 4 legal is states?

JungleStrikeGuy said:

Yeah so this is pretty out to lunch.
Here's what people don't understand : If 'legal' is more hassle than the BM, people will use the BM. People will be even more inclined to use the BM when there are no penalties for them once possession is legalized.
We're going on 3 threads now, and no one has been able to point to this epidemic of people getting sick from 'untested' weed, because there is none. 'Testing' is just another way to stigmatize the plant.
And 'compromise'? There was no compromise for the MMPR, patients were thrown under the bus and corporations were given a captive market on a silver platter. So no, there doesn't need to be 'compromise'. There needs to be a sensible system, and those who want the nanny state to protect them from an evil plant are delusional if they think that won't make the BM thrive. Legalization will be a spectacular failure with needless government controls, basically a solution in search of a problem (that doesn't exist).

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there would be NO compromise from the Government side. look at the past DG situation. the courts ruled that on patient per DG was bad so what did the Government do, authorized for 2 to 1 DG. they did the bare minimum as usual and thought we'd be too dumb to see through it. i don't think they get that we're not as dumb as them.
do they go into rooms and discuss it. when they have a plan, they get really drunk and iron it out? they have to be messed up for some of their decisions...like this whole court case. if one of their families showed positive results fighting cancer with MMJ, their voices would be louder for helping us and not fighting us

Regulations are bullshit nanny state nazi propaganda. Marijuana won't be truly 'legal' until there are no nanny state rules about it demanding 'testing' for a product we know to be safe.

TheDizzyBizzy said:

Regulations are bullshit nanny state nazi propaganda. Marijuana won't be truly 'legal' until there are no nanny state rules about it demanding 'testing' for a product we know to be safe.

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that's a start Miss

The Hippy said:

Testing all weed just adds an unnecessary expense. Almost all the weed ever consumed was never tested. And the absence of corpses seems to indicate it's okay to smoke or use untested weed. ddduhhhhh.
I mean if that's what a person wants...well okay. But it's going to cost you extra.
The anal-ness of this testing nonsense is pathetic. Good job again HC.
If your not the " Bubble Boy " ...your probably gonna be ok.

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Everything we consume has to meet some kind of requirements.. Especially if it's sold in a storefront operation. Just cause it's weed doesn't mean it won't be tested. And it's not for our safety, it's to cover their own asses. That's the point everyone is missing here.

Cover their asses against what? really? Next lame excuse please....
When have you seen a case personally where bad weed has made someone sick?

Falling for this kind of smoke screen is hilarious......you've been smoked!

nsbudca said:

Everything we consume has to meet some kind of requirements.. Especially if it's sold in a storefront operation. Just cause it's weed doesn't mean it won't be tested. And it's not for our safety, it's to cover their own asses. That's the point everyone is missing here.

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Well your right on one thing....everyone's missing your point.

I can't believe anyone can actually be as stupid as Dizzy appears to be. If the product requires testing to be offered for sale, it's not truly legal? I'm pretty sure this laptop was tested..illegal? Most of the groceries I just bought have gone through testing. I don't get the objection. If you are going to sell a product to the general public, you are subject to rules, laws and testing. Pot is an intoxicant meant for human consumption, and requiring testing is going to be part of the process. You couldn't start a craft brewery and be able to sell your product without testing, why would weed be different? I'm not sure what difference it makes anyway if we are all able to grow our own. I won't be a customer.

gb123 said:

Cover their asses against what? really? Next lame excuse please....
When have you seen a case personally where bad weed has made someone sick?

Falling for this kind of smoke screen is hilarious......you've been smoked!

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A good friend of mine ended up in the hospital for smoking moldy weed. Given he smoked an ounce, and should have know better, it's possible.
In this day and age businesses need to protect themselves against liability. People are ruthless, people sue when their coffee is to hot........a pharmacopia test, limits liability, ensuring meds are safe for distribution. pretty simple stuff really.

Itsme.

The Hippy said:

Well your right on one thing....everyone's missing your point.

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I think it's simple shit really.
We all know that we will never have a free plant. If it's legalized the government is going to have their hands all over it and we all know that. Whether we like it or not.
There will be requirements which will probably be the same as they are for LPs.
If you think otherwise you're retarded. I'm not saying I agree with it. But the Canadian government has shown us that this is how they want legally grown cannabis to be handled.

itsmehigh said:

A good friend of mine ended up in the hospital for smoking moldy weed. Given he smoked an ounce, and should have know better, it's possible.
In this day and age businesses need to protect themselves against liability. People are ruthless, people sue when their coffee is to hot........a pharmacopia test, limits liability, ensuring meds are safe for distribution. pretty simple stuff really.

Itsme.

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this isn't the states where everyone is looking to sue the next person... but nice try ...smoke some more..
liability...people get food poisoning every day... and shit is tested...and they die.
Not from Pot they certainly do not or ever have...but nice try again... smoke some more...lp wanna be!

You read about people every day... Hey MAAAAN ,can I smoke this moldy weed.????

you above all the rest should know to tell a friend? that they should know better..

gb123 said:

Cover their asses against what? really? Next lame excuse please....
When have you seen a case personally where bad weed has made someone sick?

Falling for this kind of smoke screen is hilarious......you've been smoked!

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Dude mold can make you sick. Lets all rip the dehumidifiers out of rooms and dry our pot in a wet basement. Fuck you're an idiot.

If I handed you a mouldy bud would you smoke it? Smh...

when is the last time you or anyone you know who has gotten sick from pot?

You foul mouthed little man
re read it ...again... lol

Invasive aspergillosis has been described in association with marijuana smoking in two cancer patients on chemotherapy,1,2 two leukaemia patients,3,4 a renal transplant recipient,5 and a few patients with AIDS.6 It is not recommended that patients undergoing chemotherapy or on substantial immunosuppression smoke marijuana, based on these observations. However the risk is not possible to quantify.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3103256/