M-land Super Grow Lights 300w Replaces HID 1000w

heffe'

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The links seem to be to different chinese distributors?? I have tried to contact one, but haven't heard back yet. The only priced items in the US that I can find are on ebay. A guy in oregon who has sold 4 so far. Not sure where else to get them. I'm frightened of sending $$ to china. I'm awaiting feedback from the oregon seller about the lights. Sitting in the dark 4 now.
 

heffe'

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Just heard back from china. They say US$535 shipped(DHL). I have emailed them back with more ??'s
 

SmokeyMcChokey

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Description: "though the electronic frequency as light source, and without filament..."

It looks like they're using a type of fluorescent (with a life of 100K hours!?), but not much info from their site:
http://www.mlandglobal.com/prod_dtl.asp?id=713
personally i wouldnt buy from a site that claims to have branches in the U.S but cannot fix even the simplest of grammatical errors on their home page...
just my thoughts though. and really what is though the electronic frequency as light source mean?
 
[Just want to clarify some confusion on these lights.These are Not LED's. They are a electrodless fluorescent light. There are a few options for these. First there are three different color spectrums available. your standard 2700K and 6500K and then there is a 3600K bulb. The 3600K bulb is the one that you are refering to. It is also a purple voilet coloured light very simular to the color of LED grow lights. To achieve this color, they have to coat the bulb with special phosphours. The problem is that the coating is too thick and blocks out most of the light. the 400 watt specs is 16000 Lumins alittle more than a 250 watt CFL. The 2700 and 6500K bulb is a much better choice as the true advantage of this technology is realized. The light output of a 6500K is 36000 lumins. I am in the process of testing these bulbs and will confirm which bulb color is best. Please check out www.enviro-techlighting.com for more info. Their pricing is much better. I paid $485 for a 400 watt. I will post pictures soon.
 

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heffe'

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Thanx 4 your info! I am definitely interested in these lights. would the 2700k or 6500k be a better spectrum choice?
 

heffe'

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[Just want to clarify some confusion on these lights.These are Not LED's. They are a electrodless fluorescent light. There are a few options for these. First there are three different color spectrums available. your standard 2700K and 6500K and then there is a 3600K bulb. The 3600K bulb is the one that you are refering to. It is also a purple voilet coloured light very simular to the color of LED grow lights. To achieve this color, they have to coat the bulb with special phosphours. The problem is that the coating is too thick and blocks out most of the light. the 400 watt specs is 16000 Lumins alittle more than a 250 watt CFL. The 2700 and 6500K bulb is a much better choice as the true advantage of this technology is realized. The light output of a 6500K is 36000 lumins. I am in the process of testing these bulbs and will confirm which bulb color is best. Please check out www.enviro-techlighting.com for more info. Their pricing is much better. I paid $485 for a 400 watt. I will post pictures soon.
Thanks! Can't wait 2 hear about your results. Would you recommend the 2700 or the 6500?
 

squarepush3r

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Why would how bright it is matter? Visual brightness a
I think Ryan is right. What is good for the plants, is not really the same as what is good for our eyes.

These bulbs are interesting, I'd like to try the 400W model, I might spend to test it out $600. The only model available now is the 300W though from what i saw on ebay
 

Stoney384

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Yeah these lights sound pretty good.
esp. since they last 100,000 hours and the amount of visible light it gives.
 

d.c. beard

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I bet this light sucks for OUR purposes at least.

You should try it out and let everyone know the real scoop.
 

squarepush3r

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I bet this light sucks for OUR purposes at least.

You should try it out and let everyone know the real scoop.
I'd like to try to 400W version. Running these lights are cool temperatures, basically eliminates any need for an airconditioner, which simplified things so much along with slashing electricity.
 

heffe'

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I'm planning to try the 400w. Because of my narrow tall space (2.5'w x 5'd x 7't) I'm hoping to use a light mover to pass the hanging bulb within inches of the plants in a vertical grow. The lack of heat is appealing. I don't want to vent. Less energy is also appealing. Trying to decide which bulb-(kelvin) 2 try since I will be primarily budding plants under this light? Likely will use good led 4 clones.
 

squarepush3r

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I'm planning to try the 400w. Because of my narrow tall space (2.5'w x 5'd x 7't) I'm hoping to use a light mover to pass the hanging bulb within inches of the plants in a vertical grow. The lack of heat is appealing. I don't want to vent. Less energy is also appealing. Trying to decide which bulb-(kelvin) 2 try since I will be primarily budding plants under this light? Likely will use good led 4 clones.
do you have a source for the 400W?

also, i want to use vertical also, but they seem to come with a built in hood, i bet would could remove it however.
 

squarepush3r

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There's a Canadian supplier @:-P www.enviro-techlighting.com -- the light appears w/o hood in pics, only wires to ballast.
sure enough, this looks good.

Which spectrum model to buy though?
Like the Par Max CFL’s, the Par Max EFDL’s come in 2700 and 6400 Kelvin colour for maximum PAR light spectrum that plants use.
looks like a choice, wasn't someone else testing these? would love to hear some feedback, i am considering seriously buying.


EDIT: I emailed them last monday I just remembered, they never sent me a response.
 
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