I understand it is a hot topic Tet as it is originated in your state correct? However I beleive Cerebus was impling that MOB clones of various origins would be inclined to be measureably different. As I mentioned, with asexual reproduction you lose the advantage of genetic diversity that sexually reproducing organism's have. It can work to your advantage or disadvantage. In terms of animals, arthropods to be specific... Most importantly, you do not need males. Second, typically asexually reproducers can do so much faster. However the downfall is if something goes bad (series' of mutations such as I've mentioned), it can lead to the demise of the species if it ever becomes dependent on that now defunct genetic population. As I already mentioned though, mutations can be good, just think of some viruses, the staph virus sticks out. The normal virus is fully treatable, the mutated, "super" virus, call be life threatning. (That's great if your the virus.)We have been discussing MOB on here for a few weeks, Buddy. I believe cerebus is referring to the various people who say they have it.
I like your Idea..maybe someday all of us with diffeent mob cuts (that were not gotten from each other of course) and trade off, see if there is any difference in them. A mob swap as it where, clones and a nug. just an idea..
I have been geeking on MOB for a few years now, i'd like to know as much history and variety about her as I can..
great work drift
heres where your not looking for more info. this strain came froma breeder, I would wager money they diidn't breed in a closet by themselves.. this being my thought (being no one here isn't trading info or/and genetics)with this, then there may be lines from previous rounds of genetic creations, there maybe cuts from two (or more if it was a co-op of sorts) if it was a team project.I'm not sure what you mean but 'not gotten from eachother'?
As we were discussing in the "M.O.B. Male" thread, this strain - resulting from a single cutting, cannot possibly be genetically different in any way shape or form. Everyone who owns it will have the exact same strain regardless of from who, where or when it was obtained. That's just how it works.
There are 2 exceptions though. The most obvious is number 1, plant A and plant B aren't identical... one is M.O.B and one is not. (For whatever reason. You were lied to, mislabeled, etc.) Number 2, somewhere along the line somebodys M.O.B. mutated (genetically). That plant was used as a mother, intentional or not and the genetically mutated plants were distributed. Therefore plant A would be M.O.B. and plant B would also be M.O.B., however it would have genetic abnormalities (not necessilarily bad) compared to plant A.
I'm sorry but it's just how it works. I worked for a long time with animals who could reproduce sexually and asexually, and in addition to the visual and hands on work I read a lot of published data on the subject. If only DNA testing would be incorporated into MJ as it has general biology, maybe people would understand more.
This isn't to say different growing techniques wouldn't yield better, bigger, tastier, plants. All the more reason to hang out!
also, it is a poor choice to choose to follow the model of agribusiness regarding hybridized corn due to issues with sustainability, vigor and genetic "bottlenecking" wherein industrial breeding programs breed for uniformity end up closing off potentially valuable avenues of research... the issue is not how to produce genetically identical plants (that is why the gods gave us cloning) but rather how to verify that a seed (or clone) is what the seller claims it to be... there are far too few people working with reliable sources, and those that are tend to be stingy with the details... the last thing i (or most patients) want to see is cookie cutter cannabis, we all are different, and thus have different needs which is why the genetic diversity of the cannabis family is so awesome for patients...Afternoon Maine Yank,
I would never take your opinion the wrong way! Unless of course you were being rash and baseless, then that would just be mean. LOL
It's definently not my intent to be 'in your face' or force my thoughts upon others. However in the short time I've been involved with MMJ I've seen an abundance of misconceptions, misinformation and unchecked data that get's republished - I feel terrible for the community as a whole. I've only been growing for about 6 months now, researching for about 9, however the amount of knowledge I've been able to aquire in this field is that of just a few weeks in others I've studied. Yes I've read tons of stuff, but the fact of the matter is MJ is a popular subject so it's more prone to these misconceptions and passage of information as I mention. However when you study the embryotic development of fish, or systematic behavior of scorpions - their is a lot less data available. That which is availble is heavily scrutinized by the scientific community. I will not lie, I wasn't one of those people doing the writing or the scrutinizing, I was just the one working and reading.
This stuff involving genetics is easy stuff, and I'd like to do my best to explain it without saying "I know what I'm talking about". Because the guy who just say's that is usually the idiot in the group. I think everyone in the MMJ community deserves to know how basic genetics works and why what breeders are doing today is half ass and bs. If one spends about a half a day researching the hybrid corn seed industry/history you can sort of see a trend of what I mention. However corn self pollinates naturally.
So once again, I don't mean to come off as a jerk. I just think everyone deserves more building blocks to further their knowledge. Just because I worked in lab settings for 10 years as well doesn't mean I'm gainfully employed! Research pay's pennies, and if any of you fellow New Englander's could offer me a good oppurtunity up there I'd scoop it in a heart beat!
Bud