Making weed legal will kill us farmers...

1gamma45

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$50 a gram? And you sleep at night?
Yea very well infact. I didnt charge that much that what people offered to pay cause I didnt wana sell it then it became WTF it 50$ a gram yea but its White Widow. Oh ok. Weed is a sellers market. If you have something outside the norm you can sell it and make a ton. just wait to see what I bang people for my Super Lemon Haze.
 

klmmicro

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Sorry for all you farmers that are making your living off people who cannot grow themselves. I understand that you will be put out of business and that must be a scary prospect. For that, it should not be illegal and any step to make it legal will get my backing. There are more and more people seeing it this way as well. I am not worried about your profits. I do not care if businesses get involved in it when it is legal. The plant is illegal based only on lies and you are profiting from that condition. Start figuring out something else to do...because right now you are part of the problem, not the solution. Eventually you are going to be driven out of work, and the more I think about the conditions you support (people being persecuted, losing their freedoms and possessions, etc)...the more I view it as a good thing. Your profession has no nobility whatsoever.
 

klmmicro

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The only thing about if the government sees money in it legal they will it take over
Will take over? It is illegal now and they cannot seem to "take over", stamp it out or anything else. What logic are you using to get to your conclusion?
 

brownbearclan

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Legalize it! You'll still make money, maybe slightly less but not near as much as you're thinking, but it sounds like you've got something special that people like and will continue to buy. Plus you've got a hell of a jump on anyone else who would want to compete with you anyway. When it comes to new business ventures it's all about who's got their foot in the door first. Your strain sounds awesome, I love fruity! =)
 

LightningMcGreen

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Fuck that and all your moral bullshit I want$$$$$$$$ I want my family set 2 gen. Im from the underworld jack if my sells slow down im robbing the growers PERIOD.
You talk first as if you're in it for the best interests of your family...but yet providing SOLE income on illegal activities, risking getting busted, robbed, shot, stabbed, or killed, says otherwise; how are you going to provide or start your family if you're rotting in jail or 6 feet under? Sounds like you're just lazy and want an easy way out, which is funny because not only is rasining a family difficult, it requires some form of moral fiber. Good luck with that.
 

TaoWolf

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Dude I see weed as fine wine and that is the problem, my mind is telling me that some big ass company will start making good shit and selling it for peanuts.
I have to rant here just a bit (don't take this as a personal attack, it's just something I feel strongly about).

Honestly though, I don't think the 'fine wine' argument works in the real world... For example, you are already competing in the black market with Mexican organized crime, dirt poor third-world farmers, and grow houses that are all bringing a very substandard and overpriced product into the mass market (more often than not in a way that resulted in people being killed, bribed, kidnapped, arrested, etc...). It's exactly like during prohibition of alcohol (going with the wine argument) - the quality was not better because alcohol was illegal. Quite the opposite - quality of alcohol suffered horribly and even the worse alcohol was being produced/bought/sold/consumed because that's all many people could afford due to the extravagant prices and there was extreme profit in it. Just like dried-out, bricked-up, seeded schwag that goes around the market with cannabis. Likewise, prohibition in the US had no impact on the quality of *good* wine that was being produced legally overseas - you just had to pay such a massively high price for it thanks to mafia controlled importation (mainly Italian) that good wine was not within the means of most people.

If you are concerned that companies are going to start packaging and selling cannabis just like cigarettes/tobacco and the result won't be as good as what you can grow with love and attention yourself? Guess what? It's no longer illegal, so feel free to go right ahead and grow even more than you were before, to the highest quality you want, and trade good genetics with anyone you want to continue improving the quality with less expenses and never purchase a commercial product. Just like you are also free to make wine by growing grapes and brewing your own wine or spirits to whatever quality you want.

There is no loss to the quality of what you grow yourself regardless of legality... In the end, it's all about the money one personally can make on prohibition while competing against the death and corruption that organized crime brings to the market AND what law enforcement can keep from being bought and sold on the market by arresting people and confiscating property.

For the argument that it would be bad to have the government involved in growing cannabis... the government is already involved in the growing of cannabis for profit. To the point they will break down your door, shoot your dog, arrest you, take your freedom away for years, and confiscate all your property for growing for profit. Is this *really* better than having to pay a tax to produce a product for sale? I personally couldn't see any involvement being worse than it already is.
 

1gamma45

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I think we all might have missed the big pic here. He is claiming that it will hurt him cause it will be legal to smoke. Lets not look past the fact that smoke is one of what 3 million things weed can be used for. Trust when I say this. It might hurt you if you only grow to smoke. But there will alway be someone looking for it for something other then that once it become legal.

Lets not forget. When we had the 13 first states not only was every farmer growing weed they had to have aleast 1/4 of there total crop be hemp. Hello clealry it wasnt all being smoked.
 

TaoWolf

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I think we all might have missed the big pic here. He is claiming that it will hurt him cause it will be legal to smoke.
I completely disagree. A person growing cannabis for profit isn't really profiting or making their money from cannabis. They are making their money from cannabis *prohibition*. And if a person wants to make money on prohibited substances, cannabis isn't the only thing that can be produced in a home. People currently making livable wages from growing cannabis just need to respond to a market change like any business has to and trade their grow lights for some glassware and start making crystal meth at home.
 

Nice Ol Bud

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So let me get this straight..... You are asking us if we should support the status quo so some of you can continue to make money off of it? I guess if you are the mob, yes, prohibition works....

Try looking outside of your warped box, and see the potential for a lot of new customers encouraged by recent legalization.... Not everyone can grow, nor does everyone want to. Budwesier is still in business, yet anyone can legally brew beer..... Figure it out....
Serapis is one of the smartest people here in RIU, hes real about everything.
+Rep Man..
 

Jer La Mota

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I wouldn't worry about legalization, its not around the corner ..
All those ppl getting anti-depressants, doctors visits, bogus emergency room visits .. the balance that needs to be created to support that fact isn't simple to achieve ..
All the money invested in law enforcement, any change the government makes has to bring profit (duh) , too much of a big step.
Plus if pot was legal, what will the dealers do ? sell more cock, exctacy, speed ? Its not a safe bet, at least not on the streets.
 

don2009

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You talk first as if you're in it for the best interests of your family...but yet providing SOLE income on illegal activities, risking getting busted, robbed, shot, stabbed, or killed, says otherwise; how are you going to provide or start your family if you're rotting in jail or 6 feet under? Sounds like you're just lazy and want an easy way out, which is funny because not only is rasining a family difficult, it requires some form of moral fiber. Good luck with that.
House, Pool, Car, fridge full, kids super good. If anything happens to me GRANDPARENTS! Lazy lol I wouldnt of got this far. Moral fiber you dont know me bro. My work is tottaly different from my family. Working 9-5 10hr is not in your familys best interest also. You can get caught up in doing anything legal and still go to jail. I was a nurse and a co worker tried to frame me in abusing a resident (Old person) I will never hurt anyone that didnt deserve it and I got suspended from work cops talking to me like im some fucking old person abuser I was like to hell with this I can have the same risk hustling making 3x's as much. And That was my last time working. But I see were ya'll coming from. But im a HUSTLER and I rather make a killing getting $$ then live the broke simple and humble life. Get rich or die trying
 

BigBassTurd

Member
LOL Oh it's Peace until im broke. Then the black gloves come on.
Hustler! You sound like a 16 year old gangbanger punk talking like that. And your attitude of just going out and robbing growers because you don't want to work is a joke. You got one thing right though, you will "die trying" to get rich by stealing others crops. You think these guys with pounds of cannabis sitting around are unarmed!?! LOL I hope your kids have another role model besides you!
 

guy incognito

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And another means of support for when your ass dies or goes to jail. How can you claim to have moral fiber when you are risking your familys well being like that?
 

mr.notsogreenthumb

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I am going to try and reply to several of the posts without quoting because that would be to daunting.

Because marijuana is not my prime income I honestly wouldn't be losing much even if it is being sold for dirt cheap. The whole concept of good weed always selling for more also makes perfect scene (and makes me happy). I agree that the illegality of the product is pushing up the price, but its pushing up the price of both good and crap weed, where as legal weed would only push up the price of the good stuff (I am still liking it). While legalization is still nothing more than a dream for most states and countries I don't think anyone can truly say what will happen if it is legalized, but as for me this whole discussion has swung me in the direction of supporting the legalization of it. So peace to all, go smoke a fat one, and I hope I haven't stirred up some bad blood amongst you lot.

don2009 I am glad you jumped into this conversation cause I really wanted to here both sides of the argument, thanks.
 
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