Male or Hermie?

Male or Hermaphrodite

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WattSaver

WattSaver

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Your plant looks like a male. In my experience I've never seen a plant hermi until it has shown some real flowers. The earliest Ive found a hermi is at the end of wk 2 the latest was around wk 10 on a sativa dom. I have seen sativa males start with light over 12 hrs, but is unusual. If want you have really is a clone of a fem seed then I'd throw it out now.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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This plant is either from seed, or a first cutting from the mother that I still have but have yet to flower. I don't know if the seeds were marketed as "feminized".

Why shouldn't I use this plant for breeding? I figured I'd seed one of each of my strains, plant, clone, flower, taste test, and then continue the lineage of the winners.

I've got 4 plants.

M1 M2 M3 M4.

M1 and M4 look similar, but M1 has a few 8-9 point leaves. Could be the haze or the sour.

M2 and M3 look similar. One of each is beginning to flower as female. M1 is the remaining wild card.

I feel like the M4 is my gateway to becoming a Smokémon Breeder.
 
WattSaver

WattSaver

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If it could only be from seed or a cutting of a known female, then lets hope it's the seed and you have a real male, and then I'd go hog wild with the pollen and make seeds to play with more. I've grown out seeds that came from a hermie pollination a few times. They are fem seeds so you don't have to worry about a real dude. But I'd say that close to 50% hermied. The other half finished without any bananas. So if you are breeding with hermie pollen odds are the seeds will grow hermie's also.
 
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Lord Kanti

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The seed is unknown male or female. The "mother" died over the summer in a heatwave. This is "her" first clone. I just found at least one 8 point leaf on it. If I rub the leaves between my fingers, my fingers smell like ginger.
 
mike4c4

mike4c4

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Lord Kanti said:
The seed is unknown male or female. The "mother" died over the summer in a heatwave. This is "her" first clone. I just found at least one 8 point leaf on it. If I rub the leaves between my fingers, my fingers smell like ginger.
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If you want to learn the right way to bread cannabis and not just being a pollen chuck-er, then click on the link in red under my name. I have some breeder books in there.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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mike4c4 said:
If you want to learn the right way to bread cannabis and not just being a pollen chuck-er, then click on the link in red under my name. I have some breeder books in there.
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I think I'm looking at your links, what breeder books are you referring to, I'll have a look :).
 
mike4c4

mike4c4

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Most all the books in there talk about it but if you realy want to get into it then try these

Cannabis breeding bible
https://mega.nz/#!yBJDwQJI!wSUeNlr3xyYOM4R0rrvRRdCeAuBlAZzidsXgpue-Mqo

Robert C Clarke An Advanced study, The propagation and breeding of distinctive cannabis.
https://mega.nz/#!yJAQhTSB!DcxbR2SVedQTbBTRof0NTZcu8JvxHj547V0n36qbud4

Clonal silver
https://mega.nz/#!XN5C0DAQ!GD2dUm6j8OZpmlKi01MNLURw9okquFZPglCv2QCQIUw

S.T.S
https://mega.nz/#!Kd5EmTzC!FLoulUDIOAiJsp6P4auLiV5k2mPzOFIUxeR8bGYVgqQ
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Never mind lol. Cant just click on em huh. I was just trying to find out where it said pollen was only viable for a couple of months when stored properly. Perhaps you could copy that and paste it for others. Everything I have read says its viable for years. Not a big deal as any thing I do is selfed with colloidal silver, sadly space is too tight to grow males in my setup. Although if I get a male that shows potential outdoors I may selectively use it. Thanks!
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Lord Kanti said:
Depends how it's frozen.

The links work. If you have an account you can import them to your library immediately.
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How do you mean? Re the frozen part, I was always told desiccant or rice in a 35 mm film case or other air tight container. Again not planning on doing it soon, just wanted to make sure I had not got my information wrong. Wouldn't want to post wrong info, if I did I would clarify.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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I'm not entirely sure how to do it, I just know that there are seed banks with genetics stored to withstand the apocalypse. I believe cryogenics are involved. I'm guessing a vacuum sealed, airtight container/bag could be stored in the home freezer and be viable for at least 6-12 months, but that is merely my educated speculation. I'm collecting pollen. If I can get a food saver, vacuum sealer, I'll experiment and post results. Regarding seeding, I don't have the laboratory to test generic degradation of the genes within the seed. Only whether or not seed happened and if the seeds grew into healthy looking plants.
 
mike4c4

mike4c4

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Lord Kanti said:
I'm not entirely sure how to do it, I just know that there are seed banks with genetics stored to withstand the apocalypse. I believe are involved. I'm guessing a vacuum sealed, airtight container/bag could be stored in the home freezer and be viable for at least 6-12 months, but that is merely my educated speculation. I'm collecting pollen. If I can get a food saver, vacuum sealer, I'll experiment and post results. Regarding seeding, I don't have the laboratory to test generic degradation of the genes within the seed. Only whether or not seed happened and if the seeds grew into healthy looking plants.
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LOL seed bank keep seeds not pollen. seeds store for yrs. thats how the genetics are preserved. No cryogenics involved.
 
Lord Kanti

Lord Kanti

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Do cryogenics split cell walls, or are they left intact if frozen quickly enough or left at a temp slightly above freezing? I know the banks are located in cold climates, but I thought they also had cryogenic refrigeration on site as well. Maybe I'm thinking of animal genetic material?

Apparently there's a cryogenic seed bank in Irvine. I clicked on a link to it, but didn't get much info. I could delve deeper, but I'm thinking it might be nap time after the breakfast I had.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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mike4c4 said:
LOL seed bank keep seeds not pollen. seeds store for yrs. thats how the genetics are preserved. No cryogenics involved.
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The world seed bank (vault) is in Norway and is dug into the side of a mountain. It is refrigerated but still if the equipment fails it will still be below freezing. And guys as for pollen, it can and is stored for years in a freezer as long as it is kept dry and air tight. It can be stored for decades if kept lower than -30 and in a vacume container so LK just put it in a little plastic envelope like for a stamp then put it in a 35mm film case with rice or a desiccant pak, throw it in freezer and your golden. And yup seeds can last forever if stored the same way. I have seeds from 10 years ago that are still viable, they are just in a 35mm case, well the one I germed last year was lol. Good luck with the experimenting LK!
 
mike4c4

mike4c4

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LOL yea too bad its owned by the government, who say cannabis seed are illegal. we ain't talking about potato seeds here.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Actually you may find the odd pot seed at the bank in Norway. The point was more about enviroment than seed types though.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Your right they dont lol. But the conversation had kinda turned towards seeds as well so I thought I'd clarify with some actual facts. Still waiting for some actual documentation re pollen only viable for a couple of months. I'd hate to think I could keep it in a freezer for a year only to find out It was junk. :).
 
mike4c4

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Budley Doright said:
Your right they dont lol. But the conversation had kinda turned towards seeds as well so I thought I'd clarify with some actual facts. Still waiting for some actual documentation re pollen only viable for a couple of months. I'd hate to think I could keep it in a freezer for a year only to find out It was junk. :).
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What facts did you clarify? That seeds keep for years, we all know that. You have all the info you need, its in the books. Im not the one that is telling people that , (it can and is stored for years in a freezer as long as it is kept dry and air tight. It can be stored for decades if kept lower than -30 and in a vacume container) thats just not true. you can try whatever you think you have read, and ill keep with selling seed to the seed bank.
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Ok so I guess your not going to provide scientific proof then lol. I asked you to prove it so "I" wasnt providing misleading info but have yet to see it. Kinda like a few other post where you've been shot down. Thats ok I get it lol.
 
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