Germed 4 - 2 grew - 2 didn't and both that grew are males - BOO HOO - damn - two months wasted - Not really though - I learned a lot even though it turned out to be a flubb of a first grow. I did think that both these where male about 7 days ago, but wanted to grow them out to be sure. I know what to look for now...Got the pH thing down, got the nutes right as they grew awesome even though they are males. Got my movable shelf system and lighting down. Cooling and smell control are good - OK rip down and start round 2!