Mammoth p microbes
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CikaBika
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Thank you a lot!!
CikaBika
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I recived this today.. It was ordered waay before I saw your post.. I'm free to hear any advice how to use it?? Im watering my soil every 4 days..
Renfro
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I have no experience with those exact products, however I normally inoculate for the first few weeks, and use some form of simple sugar as well (to feed them). After a few weeks there should be a good population existing in your medium so you can stop using it and just feed them with the simple sugars, maybe hit with a booster every few weeks. (unless in hydro then use it all the time).
CikaBika
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Hm I read that mycro should be used more than once? Like it can cause more harm than good?
But I dl. AN chart and they say that you add piranha and nirvana (their version of mycro and bacteria) with every feeding
I'm confused now..
Renfro
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Perhaps that chart was for hydro? The guy at AN told me on the phone that I should use bennies + carboload for like the first two weeks of veg and first two weeks of flower and then just keep feeding them with a simple sugar (they have carboload for that). He said that in a soiless mix or coco there would be an established colony. I just added the booster idea, figured it cant hurt. You can't overdo the bennies really. The idea is the more the better. In hydro they cant establish as much of a colony as they get dumped with the nutes so adding them the whole time is the way to go.
Greenthumbs256
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I think mammoth p is very good, there is no denying that, but for the cost, I can't justify it! mainly bc of the simple fact if you already create the perfect environment for microbial life, then it's not really needed! those same microbes will already be there! granted they do supposedly make those certian microbes, that are specifically designed to handle p, which isn't bad, but if your supporting life in your soil, in order for it to work the way mother nature intended, you need more than just those microbes! it's a soil food web, not a a dollar menu! lol, you don't get to pick and choose, that's for hydro!
basically what I'm trying to say is it takes more then just those specific microbes to make all the magic happen! if your NOT running true living organics, then yea sure it's great, but if you are and doing it right, and supporting the entire food web, I can't see much of a difference happening at all! sure it will help a tad, but nothing compared to what it cost to buy a small bottle of it!
you can do the same thing, but much better and way cheaper to buy everything, then one bottle of that stuff cost!
just my 2 cents!
basically what I'm trying to say is it takes more then just those specific microbes to make all the magic happen! if your NOT running true living organics, then yea sure it's great, but if you are and doing it right, and supporting the entire food web, I can't see much of a difference happening at all! sure it will help a tad, but nothing compared to what it cost to buy a small bottle of it!
you can do the same thing, but much better and way cheaper to buy everything, then one bottle of that stuff cost!
just my 2 cents!
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Greenthumbs256
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now with all that said, if your running bottles and stuff like that, and not really living organics, then sure it can help out alot, but still that dam price tag!
Joint Monster
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Anyone try Humbolt Nutrients Myco Madness? I really liked it!
Works in soil or hydro.
Price is reasonable compared to stuff like great white imo. (Although I've not tried G.W.)
Works in soil or hydro.
Price is reasonable compared to stuff like great white imo. (Although I've not tried G.W.)
Renfro
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I have not tried that, seems a little diluted to me though.
Joint Monster
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Interesting! Yeah the CFU's are a lot lower of the Humbolt.
Have you heard of this one? (I saw a fairly reputable breeder vouche for them. But they don't say much specifically about what is in there.)
https://www.ecothrive.co.uk/catalogue/biosys_4/
Renfro
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I have not heard of that one, and I am by no means an expert on the subject. I wonder what the concentrations are in that one.
I just haven't seen any results like the tribus original. I think their idea of fewer species in much higher concentrations has merit. Their rep explained it really well, way better than I could have. That said any product is probably better than none as I don't see how they can cause any harm only good.
Greenthumbs256
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man u can get that same stuff, by brewing up a nice compost tea! and a hell of a lot cheaper!
dstroy
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Prove it.
The reality is, that you have no idea, because you don’t know what bacteria will be present in your “compost tea”, you just know that it works. That’s fine, good for you. Compost tea is great.
Glad you found something that works for you.
Greenthumbs256
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your right I've been learning and they are not the same microbes! I actually emailed the company, trying to get some more info! waiting to hear back from them still! I'll share what learn here!
but your 100% right, those microbes are not in teas! or in living soil for that matter!
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Greenthumbs256
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also I don't really use teas anymore, I've moved on to probiotics! and I've never grown this well!
Joint Monster
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I'm wondering if anyone can chime in here... I'm in hydro running bennies as a pythium preventative. I ran the Myco Madness mostly for the Mycorrhizae and Trichoderma.
I tried just using Extreme Gardenings Myco and it seemed to do the trick.
Would Mammoth P do the same job? (seeing it does not contain Trichoderma or Mycorrhizae)
I tried just using Extreme Gardenings Myco and it seemed to do the trick.
Would Mammoth P do the same job? (seeing it does not contain Trichoderma or Mycorrhizae)
Renfro
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I don't think so, to the best of my knoweledge Mammoth P is designed to aid in nutrient uptake. Thats what mycorrhizae do as well. The Trichoderma is the one that fights off the pythium.