Mammoth p microbes

Joint Monster said:

I'm wondering if anyone can chime in here... I'm in hydro running bennies as a pythium preventative. I ran the Myco Madness mostly for the Mycorrhizae and Trichoderma.

I tried just using Extreme Gardenings Myco and it seemed to do the trick.

Would Mammoth P do the same job? (seeing it does not contain Trichoderma or Mycorrhizae)

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I use Orca in my hydro setup. It contains bacillus amyloliquefaciens which is the active ingredient in hydroguard. This is a species of bacteria that fights off pithium, fusarium, and other commonly unwanted aerobic bad guys.

If you're trying to prevent pithium, you want bacillus amyloliquefaciens.

NoWaistedSpace said:

Yes, it's worth the $. Been using it for about 3 years along with Recharge.
It goes a long way. You only use like .5 ml/ gal, I think.

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Same here. Ive been using mammoth P at .6 ml per gal when i feed. Than alternate to using recharge inbetween feedings. People say mamm p doesent make a difference. I beg the differ. I stopped using for two runs to see if i saw anything dofferent. And plants did fine but didnt thrive like they did when using mamm p. Heres my current run in a 5x5

Mammoth p is not a bad product at all, but it's not some super secret that will make someone an expert grower. You can achieve the exact same results or even better just by having a living soil teaming with life, and keeping it alive. Mother nature is a better farmer than any of us can ever even dream of becoming. Stop trying to beat her and work against her, when you can just help her get rolling get out the way, and she will grow better than you could ever dream of!

I dont use any nutrients or anything out of a bottle. I dont ever feed, and I top dress with some compost and guano twice per cycle once in veg and once before flower.

And thread is back from the dead!

Its really not the expensive when using at the rate of .5ml per gal every other watering. Its convient and easy to use. I just get the medium size bottle so the shelf life stays within range. This was result i got from the first and second time trialing the mammoth P. Both single plant grows. Biggest difference i saw was the overall health, thriving performance, thickness of stalks and branches and i can say in my opinion, im able to feed a bit more PK booster without burning and it seems to help in yield but im not going to say for sure since ive never done true side by side comparison. I also see a more even canopy with tigher nodes. The second run i did was by far the best trained plant ive yet to accomplish. And i struggled to see the same performance when dropping the mammoth p and just sticking to recharge. Thats just my person opinion and i have yet to trial any other replacement supplements

Greenthumbs256 said:

Mammoth p is not a bad product at all, but it's not some super secret that will make someone an expert grower. You can achieve the exact same results or even better just by having a living soil teaming with life, and keeping it alive. Mother nature is a better farmer than any of us can ever even dream of becoming. Stop trying to beat her and work against her, when you can just help her get rolling get out the way, and she will grow better than you could ever dream of!

I dont use any nutrients or anything out of a bottle. I dont ever feed, and I top dress with some compost and guano twice per cycle once in veg and once before flower.View attachment 4459454View attachment 4459455View attachment 4459456

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How are you liking the Rspec boards? Im trialing them for the first time right now

growin-Jables said:

How are you liking the Rspec boards? Im trialing them for the first time right now

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Love them, faster flowering, better and denser nugs, I couldnt be happier. In the works of getting 6 more 240w boards to start with mixed spectrums

Greenthumbs256 said:

Love them, faster flowering, better and denser nugs, I couldnt be happier. In the works of getting 6 more 240w boards to start with mixed spectrums

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Are you comparing them to the V2 288 boards? Its odd. The 3k boards put off more orangrish redish light than the r spec. R spec is more white light with dark red led diodes mixed in. Still puts off what looks like a more even balanced spectrum than the 3k. But being the r spec if enhanced flowering and supposedly more red spectrum than 3k caught me off guard.
In what way did you mean by your plants flower faster? Meaning getting into flower sooner or finishing sooner

growin-Jables said:

Are you comparing them to the V2 288 boards? Its odd. The 3k boards put off more orangrish redish light than the r spec. R spec is more white light with dark red led diodes mixed in. Still puts off what looks like a more even balanced spectrum than the 3k. But being the r spec if enhanced flowering and supposedly more red spectrum than 3k caught me off guard.
In what way did you mean by your plants flower faster? Meaning getting into flower sooner or finishing sooner

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I was comparing to 1k hps

I have used MP for the past year and I have liked it for the most part. I have used it during the whole plants life cycle. The only substitute that i could recommend besides having a good soil is FishSh!t. It has been killer as well. Less pricey than MP with the same results.

I personally have never used MP but I have used the fish shit and it has made all of the difference in my root development it is a excellent additive to whatever nutrient regimen you are using

I really like the Fish Shit it is OMRI listed as an organic product,have had excellent results using this stuff. I personally think it is better than the MP but that is just my opinion

It’s sounds like more people are on the side of using mammoth p. I’ve heard good and bad things about the product. Yield goes up but quality doesn’t. I was told by someone using it that it made their buds foxtail when he never experienced that. Has anyone had this experience. Also I use a product called max microbe that may rival mp.

I ain't doubting mother nature at all. In fact I dream of a beautiful aquaponic setup one day. But you cannot grow in living soil and get the bud size and density you can growing hydroponically by the simple virtue of root oxygenation. I've done both well. It is what it is. Also you can't really tell the difference smoke wise if you do both properly. So, just my humble opinion. Not to say you can't do huge dense nuggets with RLOS. They just get a little bigger when you can keep the root zone well oxygenated with fresh water which you cannot growing in soil. And when I say well I mean using brix meters and shit to dial stuff in properly with the chemical grows and proper mixes with the soil (and brix testing too).

Sothern ag garden friendly fungicide is a single bacteria formula as well. Has the same bacteria as hydroguard but like 100 times more concentrated. I use this with good results and a great price.

I use Mammoth P . I do have some foxtailing but primarily top buds and not all strains. Might be heat or light related too. I like it but I've read Tribus is similar. Also Photosynthesis Plus. Definitely not the same products but same goal of bigger buds through microbes.

So I went ahead and got a 250 ml bottle of Tribus original based on some things I've read. As it turns out most of those posts are from The same person but I'm still excited. USDA approved, etc. Lots of good info too. I started it on some plants that are about 3 weeks old. I've been using Recharge and im really happy with that but this is a full cycle innoculant so I'm trying it. I bought it to replace my MP which I also like but thought something new might be ok. Since then I decided what I really wanted was the bloom version since that's what I used MP for, so I picked up a 100 ML bottle of Tribus Bloom, which is geared toward P and K uptake similar to Mammoth. I grow in soil and I don't use any bottles or boosters but I'm very into beneficial bacteria since way way back when it cleared up my slimy dwc res. I see all they can do and th e products are far better today through real science. I hope there is less foxtailing with Tribus but t that may be my environment too. I'm working on that too.

5BY5LEC said:

I think it is made here in CO. I about choked up my food when I saw the prices.
For what it costs, it better keep my water clean, feed my plants and change my res when it needs it lol.
Tribus?
-Bacillus subtilis

-Bacillus amyloliquefaciens

-Bacillus pumilus
That looks great. I use Orca with Hydroguard to get me those extra microbes. I might try it.

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Well. I just found two different sample bottles of microbes that contain the first two but not the last one. So this stuff I found I can use as hydro guard (which I’m running low on) for nice white roots?

One week in on the original Tribus and the plants have really responded. They are growing fast right now anyway so I haven't lost my mind in love with it or anything but the stalks do seem extra thick and stout. It is fine to use with Recharge, well it has been so far for me....One week like I said. I have been only because I had the Recharge, I like it, and it's different than the Tribus. One week and the plants have almost outgrown my starter fluorescent but I'm not ready for them to move. The others won t finis h. I guess there's worse situations.

Moabfighter said:

Well. I just found two different sample bottles of microbes that contain the first two but not the last one. So this stuff I found I can use as hydro guard (which I’m running low on) for nice white roots?

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Bacillus amyloliquefaciens is Hydroguard so yes. I think it used to have those same three but the newer formula is just B.A.