Man, I am idiot about the bugs it seems.:(

I am just getting into soil. As part of this I got a big rubbermaid, drilled some holes in the bottom and filled it with what I tohught was compost for worms and worms. I put paper on the surface and a lid with some metal screens.

well i look inside and their are bugs, little black ones all over the surface. I have not sued this dirt/compost anywhere. It is just percolating with worms and some rather large foodscraps.

But the bugs have gooten everywhere. They are even in the houseplants. I have put out bowls full of applecidar vinegar and soil drenched and sprayed everythig with neem oil. Nothing has helped. It has gotten worse. SO afar as I can tell they are everywhere but inside the 8 mj plants I have in a tent with ladybugs. But they could be soon,

any suggestions.

wow man, that really sucks. good luck with the cleanup

shyyt sucks ;(

use some sray or some shit kill all those little fucker!!

I don't grow in the house...but the plants are a frickin' zoo! but my plants love the army of carnivores and spiders eating all the vegetarians!...back when I was a kid, and miracle gro was all we knew, my plants suffered constantly from bugs!

Got any pictures of these bugs?

Might be gnats: http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=gnats&sourceid=opera&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

what I need is a macro video camera so I can do my community access show "hillbilly's wild world of varmints"! it'd be great! I could also use a microscope cam' to explore the forbidden jungles of trichomes! now THAT would be cool! there's some mother spider pics on the kahuna last yr. in my pics. I basically owe it all to my legions...otherwise the herbivores would mess me up!. but you can't get symbiosis with chemical fert's, pesticides etc. you rip apart the fabric of nature with such foolishness! no!... really! organics is CRITICAL to the whole thing.

well, they are kept out of the mj growroom still. cool. I think it is wet soil. They bring them. I will get some sand for houseplants and maybe try some traps. I think the vinegar and soap might have worked a little. If they flew off to die, cuz nothing. I looked in the pest section and this is a common problem.

Mositure, sand, fly paper, poison, and ladybugs. I need more of those. 10 dollars for a cup hundred.

It's probably gnats. They get into compost if it is sealed. I've had them in mine before too, I just threw it outside. Didn't want gnats inside. They are attracted by very wet soggy soil, just like a sealed compost. They are a bitch to get rid of. Sand will help, but the best thing to do is let your soil dry out completely before waterings.

One of the best things that you can use for most bugs is garlic.

I NEVER have bug problems and believe me " I live in a humid place were there are plenty of them around and they can easily access my plants. "

I simply put a nice size clove of garlic right next to every plant and the bugs stay away.

Be Blessed, TheNatural

well i read that if you boil some strong cigarettes in water and use that water after letting it cool down it will kill pests. But Good luck though

The only time (knock on wood) I had problems with bugs is when I bought MG soil. I had, lemme tell ya, infest mutherfuck station of them damn nasty gnats. What worked for me was the canned foggers. I bought a 3 pack of them suckers and bombed, a few days later bombed again, 1 week later bombed again. After that there was nothing but dead gnats everywhere. I bought some no pest strips and also hung up one of those nasty sticky ones and finished the last 2 months of the grow pretty much bug free.
Those gnats are a pain in the ass and they live in the top of your soil and lay a million eggs. Covering the top of your soil with sand from the store is also something that keeps them away.

Boneman said:

The only time (knock on wood) I had problems with bugs is when I bought MG soil. I had, lemme tell ya, infest mutherfuck station of them damn nasty gnats. What worked for me was the canned foggers. I bought a 3 pack of them suckers and bombed, a few days later bombed again, 1 week later bombed again. After that there was nothing but dead gnats everywhere. I bought some no pest strips and also hung up one of those nasty sticky ones and finished the last 2 months of the grow pretty much bug free.
Those gnats are a pain in the ass and they live in the top of your soil and lay a million eggs. Covering the top of your soil with sand from the store is also something that keeps them away.

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I don't think I would recommend bombing my grow room with chemical foggers. I wouldn't even bomb our house if the cats got fleas. Just don't like the idea of willingly spreading toxic chemicals all over my house onto to everything I touch. Espically don't want it on anything that I ingest! The pest strips work good though. When I had gnats I got a bunch of them and they were pretty full by the end of the week.

TheNatural, I will have to try the garlic thing on my next grow. Sounds like a sound idea. I have just been using more Humic Acid on my plants, and haven't been having any bug problems.

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well i read that if you boil some strong cigarettes in water and use that water after letting it cool down it will kill pests. But Good luck though

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oh my god this is such a bad idea.. nicotine is highly poisonous to the human body. there are nicotine tinctures out there that are designed as poisons. by boiling cigarettes, you are essentially creating a water based tincture which could potentially be harmful to you and your plants.

well so far they are only on the dirt outside and the reg plants inside. They cannot get past the ladybugs at all! The grow room is compelty clean and their are only a few ladybugs left. I dont know where they went but I think they mostly died off with no food. Their is now.

But I gotta get that outside shit clean. SO tiday or so I am gonna get a lot of pest strips and bug spray that is organic.

I have a huge worm farm coming soon. This will be for profesional worm castings. I could keep it inside but i would rather not. I want this shit clean and that is where they came from last time. Some food in my makeshift worm bin that is a little slow and wtf this is my life and my hobby now that I dont drink. Lol.

So sand, poison, strips, ladybugs. Less water than needed. Vinegar and soap was a bust. lol. almost silly cops, weed is free!

Neem oil works good with them too, I've found. I'm sure the ladybugs will eat them. They are carnivorous!

Yeah, ladybugs have kept them out of the tent. Also I did drench the soil a while back with neem.

I have neem, dyna grow. It is unweildy shit. Like tooth paste. I lost the bottle anyway.

So i bought a product at riteaid. Neem oil and various inactive. Worked like a charm.
I attacked the soil and pretty much just sprayed the hell outa the situation and now a day later I see no bugs. Cool. Cost 5 bucks. I used it on everything but MJ.

to celebrate I am growing a beard.

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to celebrate I am growing a beard.

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Welcome to the "Men with Beards" society, my friend! We are glad to have you!

It's always good to see a fellow bearded man around! An old school grower from a while back once told me "You can always trust a man with a beard". No truer words have ever been spoken!

Count me in if my Fumanchu works.
I look goofy in a beard, but I can pull off the mustache look.

I have problems with fungus gnats almost every time I open a new bag of soil. I hope I figured out the cure. I took small bowls of dishwater soapy water and placed them near the plants. Then I took soapy water and poured it over all the dirt the plants were in. Within two days they were all either in the soapy dishes dead or dead in the dirt. When I opened the bag of soil from Wal-Mart last week, I let it stand for an hour or so and sure enough, here came the fungus gnats. I used the soil anyway, ran the soap through it and planted. No gnats so far and only a few in the soapy water bowls, so caught them early. I think Rite-Aid dirt has the least of these things.