Marc Emery Calls Out Selfish Marijuana Growers for Opposing Legalization

Weedpipe

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As November inches closer, California's ballot initiative to legalize marijuana is causing anxiety on all sides of the drug war battlefield. Unfortunately, law-enforcement interests and anti-drug activists aren't the only ones panicking over the possibility of legal pot in the Golden State. This piece from Marc Emery explains why some members of the cannabis community are speaking out against the effort, and why they're wrong to do so.

Marc breaks opposition to the initiative into 3 categories:

1. Police and prison industry profiteers who don't want to lose their jobs.
2. Successful marijuana growers and entrepreneurs who don't want new competition.
3. Old-school activists who feel alienated by the modern reform movement and can't see the forest for the trees.

Now, I'm not sure I agree with everything Marc says here, but the piece on the whole is very interesting. As for the 3rd group, I just don't know what to say, but the first two are basically opposite sides of the same coin. Both groups benefit from marijuana prohibition and fear the impact of its elimination on their livelihood. Both groups prefer to think of their opposition to the initiative as being driven by principle, rather than self-interest. And ultimately, both groups will have to be overcome in order for marijuana prohibition to end.

I don't think anyone really disputes the fact that the Tax and Regulate 2010 Initiative isn't perfect. It apparently increases penalties for distribution to people under 21, and it doesn't create the kind of freedom of cultivation and distribution that many would prefer. But what it will do is completely slaughter the war on marijuana as we know it, and not just in California. If this initiative passes, it will protect multitudes of peaceful cannabis consumers from arrest in California, while sending a message to the nation that further marijuana reform is popular and inevitable.

I promise you, we will not destroy the drug war with one sudden fatal blow. It took more than a decade of legal medical marijuana to set a positive example, disprove negative stereotypes and propaganda, and ultimately help win popular support for further reform. We're headed in the right direction, and if this effort succeeds, we'll be a whole hell of a lot closer than we are today. That's true even if the new law creates some inconveniences that its authors felt were necessary in order to help get it passed.

The bottom line is that if this initiative wins, or merely comes close to winning, it will galvanize our movement behind a victory that's surely just over the horizon. It will show politicians and the press that the recently surging marijuana legalization debate is more than just a fad and that our support base penetrates deeply into mainstream society.

On the other hand, a decisive loss will send a message that the apparent march towards legalization in recent years was little more than a vocal minority exploiting the internet to create a false perception of political momentum. Can you even imagine how eager our opponents are to start saying things like that? Our losses are inevitably exaggerated and twisted by our opponents in a desperate defense of the status quo, and in that respect, the political impact of our victories must be considered in addition to the substance of the reforms themselves.

To put it much more simply, let me just suggest that anyone in California who'd like to end marijuana prohibition would probably want to vote differently than the cops who get paid to pull up plants in the woods.



News Forum: rollitup.org
Source: Chronicle Blog
Author: Scott Morgan
Contact: StoptheDrugWar.org
Copyright: StoptheDrugWar.org
Website: http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2010/jun/08/marc_emery_calls_out_selfish_mar
 

Moldy

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I don't think it's just growers but many of the folk making a very good living off of it are opposed to legalization. They all have their excuses why, etc. but the bottom line they are no better than an Anslinger. You know, the guy that made himself famous in the 1930’s finding jobs for the out of work prohibition police using the ultimate fear mongering device ever? Racism.
 

fdd2blk

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if it passes you will still GOT TO JAIL for holding more than an ounce, just as you do now.

if it passes more people will smoke so there will be a higher DEMAND for growers.

there will always be activists. they can rally for higher quantity laws. an ounce. :roll:





marc emery is canadian, he can stfu now. :sleep:
 

tempest317

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is weed gettin cheaper around your areas? cause here in uk prices just keep goin up while harder drugs just keep gettin cheaper. i pay £200 an oz, well i say an oz its always a bit underweight. good weed can be as much as 70 a quater. more an more folk seem to be growing but theres just not enough to go round.
 

jackazz

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Anyone that grows pot and is against this legalization is just another self serving fucking politician. I say to hell with them and their attitude that pot shouldn't be legalized, at least until they make their billion dollars. Get a life, get a grip or get a job like the rest of the real world. I hope legal weed passes the vote and the price drops like a fucking rock. I for one am sick of having to spend BIG MONEY on a very small amount of weed. It;s not that goddamn hard to grow you self serving rippoffs. The only reason more people don't grow is fear of the assholes knocking on the door, or you, my overpaid greenthumbs, would be out of work.
 

Moldy

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if it passes you will still GOT TO JAIL for holding more than an ounce, just as you do now.

if it passes more people will smoke so there will be a higher DEMAND for growers.

there will always be activists. they can rally for higher quantity laws. an ounce. :roll:
Yes you're correct, over an oz is still a problem but that can corrected later. The one thing they can't bust you for is a 25' sq. garden or just the smell will not be grounds for a warrent or kicking down your door. It takes away probable cause from just the smell. Correct? It still doesn't affect MMJ people growing and the amount they can have so where's the "real" problem?

I saw today where the Cali lawmakers are introducing a bill to make MJ an infraction with just a $100 fine. I guess they don't like proscecuting 61,388 yearly peeps for under an oz. I wonder why they are pushing this one now? Hmmmm:?
 

fdd2blk

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Anyone that grows pot and is against this legalization is just another self serving fucking politician. I say to hell with them and their attitude that pot shouldn't be legalized, at least until they make their billion dollars. Get a life, get a grip or get a job like the rest of the real world. I hope legal weed passes the vote and the price drops like a fucking rock. I for one am sick of having to spend BIG MONEY on a very small amount of weed. It;s not that goddamn hard to grow you self serving rippoffs. The only reason more people don't grow is fear of the assholes knocking on the door, or you, my overpaid greenthumbs, would be out of work.
why are you buying pot if it's so easy to grow? :neutral:
 

fdd2blk

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Yes you're correct, over an oz is still a problem but that can corrected later. The one thing they can't bust you for is a 25' sq. garden or just the smell will not be grounds for a warrent or kicking down your door. It takes away probable cause from just the smell. Correct? It still doesn't affect MMJ people growing and the amount they can have so where's the "real" problem?

I saw today where the Cali lawmakers are introducing a bill to make MJ an infraction with just a $100 fine. I guess they don't like proscecuting 61,388 yearly peeps for under an oz. I wonder why they are pushing this one now? Hmmmm:?
it already is only a 100 dollar fine, they are just changing the charge to a lesser offense on paper.
 

andar

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so you guys in cali have medical marijuana but if you get caught with an ounce you will go to jail? in my state i have no mmj but i can have up to 100 grams before i go to jail

edit: at least before its mandatory. if the judge is a dick he can put you in jail up to 6 months but i have not heard of that happening
 

jackazz

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Don't want the asshole LEO kicking my door down and giving me a truckload of legal expenses.
 
Don't want the asshole LEO kicking my door down and giving me a truckload of legal expenses.
That's why it is expensive. The guy who grows it is doing it for profit? What is a fair profit when the consequense for getting caught growing it is the loss of ones freedom for a good amount of time?
 

TokinPodPilot

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Don't want the asshole LEO kicking my door down and giving me a truckload of legal expenses.
And if you think that this upcoming legislation actually does anything to prevent that, then you have truly chosen the most appropriate forum name.
 

fdd2blk

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Don't want the asshole LEO kicking my door down and giving me a truckload of legal expenses.
call your dr, or any of the 27,000 out there, and get a card. you will have more rights then the upcoming election could ever give you. you can be legal by next weeklend if you try hard enough. :wink:
 

sensisensai

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Selfish has nothing to do with it. Decriminalize it or reform MEDICAL laws so patients can be taken care of. I'm in oregon but we have an OCTA here as well. Its total horse shit and ill be doing everything in my power to shut it down. I LOSE about 13 cents per grow so believe me when I say its not about the money, not for me. Its about patients having truly safe access and our god given right to do as we choose with our bodies, we should not have to pay a tax on such a right. So to those who say "tax cannabis" I say "go fuck urself" /.02
 
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