marijuana and depression

motorboater

motorboater

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poplars said:
hah wow, I can't believe you actually are trying to believe that cannabis is just as foreign to our bodies as other pharmaceutics and drugs we take.

common man, do you realize that cannabis and humans/animals used to be ONE? they both evolved into different directions, but at one point we both shared a photocannabinoid receptor.

that receptor evolved into our cannabinoid system in our body, which is more beneficial to us than practically any drug on earth. I'm getting sick of people trying to claim it ISN'T anything BUT a miracle drug.

I mean, cannabinoid receptors exist TONS of areas of our body, and you're actually trying to claim it's nothing more than a drug just getting you high?

fuck that bullshit man. it's just as good as we all say it is, and you're the one trying to refuse it.

I can't believe this crap, you guys, CANNABIS IS NOT LIKE OTHER DRUGS. it's safer than most FOOD you eat. and it's almost as natural to your body as adrenaline.

seriously stop kidding yourselves here, there's countless amounts of research to prove that cannabis is truly a miracle to our existence.
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Whether you like it or not, cannabis is harmful to the body, and iit isn't natural to use it the way that we do.

It has adverse effects on cognitive function, which can be permanent depending on how long you used the drug. Not to mention that combustion of it creates many many compounds that go into your body. THC is just ONE active chemical of many.

And no, there isn't countless amounts of legitimate research. I don't know where you are coming from with that. Research has been stifled for decades by the government, and very few private studies have been allowed.

Marijuana may be the safest drug on the planet, but it is ignorant to assume that it comes without hazards.
 
danksmoker77

danksmoker77

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sure it comes with hazards so does everything you do. too much of anything is hazardous for you. Man I liked this thread topic but seems like it getting switched too weed is bad for you. Lets keep this thing positive. Were trying to talk about weed and how it helps depression. Yeah we know inhaling hot smoke from a burning plant is probably a little harmful, but the positives definitely outway the negs.
 
poplars

poplars

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motorboater said:
Whether you like it or not, cannabis is harmful to the body, and iit isn't natural to use it the way that we do.

It has adverse effects on cognitive function, which can be permanent depending on how long you used the drug. Not to mention that combustion of it creates many many compounds that go into your body. THC is just ONE active chemical of many.

And no, there isn't countless amounts of legitimate research. I don't know where you are coming from with that. Research has been stifled for decades by the government, and very few private studies have been allowed.

Marijuana may be the safest drug on the planet, but it is ignorant to assume that it comes without hazards.
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LOL, adverse effects on cognitive function?

do your research buddy. or maybe go out and get some experience with it for yourself?

if it had supposed adverse reactions to your cognitive function, in theory, I shouldn't have learned ANYTHING from the time I started smoking pot until now.

seriously I'm not digging your post here at all, not only do you say there isn't enough legitimate research, you don't back up any of your points with existing research.

not that I want to see that research, no doubt it will be ridiculously biased. but I know for a fact I can get you a ton of research that shows weed helps your body and your brain more than any drug in existence.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_pharmacology2.shtml
 
puffpuffPASSEDOUT

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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poplars said:
hah wow, I can't believe you actually are trying to believe that cannabis is just as foreign to our bodies as other pharmaceutics and drugs we take.

common man, do you realize that cannabis and humans/animals used to be ONE? they both evolved into different directions, but at one point we both shared a photocannabinoid receptor.

that receptor evolved into our cannabinoid system in our body, which is more beneficial to us than practically any drug on earth. I'm getting sick of people trying to claim it ISN'T anything BUT a miracle drug.

I mean, cannabinoid receptors exist TONS of areas of our body, and you're actually trying to claim it's nothing more than a drug just getting you high?

fuck that bullshit man. it's just as good as we all say it is, and you're the one trying to refuse it.

I can't believe this crap, you guys, CANNABIS IS NOT LIKE OTHER DRUGS. it's safer than most FOOD you eat. and it's almost as natural to your body as adrenaline.

seriously stop kidding yourselves here, there's countless amounts of research to prove that cannabis is truly a miracle to our existence.
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Just becuase a plant produces or causes an effect that naturally occurs already in our body doesnt make it a necessitity.

If you want a good read on cannabinoids in our body read this...

http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v99/n160/a02.html

"Sifting through the plant's chemical stew in the early '60s, Israeli pharmacologist Raphael Mechoulam discovered more than 60 cannabinoids in marijuana, including the famous and psychoactive compound THC. In 1992, a team led by Mechoulam and William Devane trumped that discovery by showing that humans produced their own cannabinoids. They called the substance anandamide, Sanskrit for eternal bliss.

Our brains contain receptors that interact with the anandamide we produce. In an accident of nature and chemistry, compounds in pot are shaped similarly and therefore trigger similar but more potent effects. The same is true of the plant drugs nicotine and cocaine."

Our bodies produce cannabinoids just like they produce dopamine. ... I still stay firm that MJ is a drug, nothing more nothing less. ...Just happens to be one of the safest and beneficial to use when dealing with mood/appetite/pain
 
puffpuffPASSEDOUT

puffpuffPASSEDOUT

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poplars said:
it wasn't an accident in nature, we co-evolved with cannabis.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/human-and-cannabis-coevolution
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I dont believe in Co-evolution. Its too vague, Nothing co-evolves in nature, UNLESS its the same species. I think we share like 15% the dna of a dandelion but i know damn well we arent plants. Mammals consume plants, and tell me what nutritional benefit there is from eating weed. Very little. ....Back in the primal days of man im sure someone who was out in the wilderness, away from the pack, ate some weed becuase it had a smell too it and he was probably starving to death. then got high as shit and loved it so he came back with some and shared it with his home boys, then they started farming it and little johnny marijuanaseed planted seeds alllllll over the world.

Or what if god put it there for sick animals to eat to take the pain away from the inevitable death that they were going to endure from being eaten alive by predators.

Weed is nothing but a drug used for entertainment. Also it makes one hell of a sleeping aide. My personal favorite.
 
poplars

poplars

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co-evolution revolves around specific function.

the bee's don't eat the flowers, now do they?
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Well, just to put my experience in.....
I've smoked pot since I was 15,on and off.I'm 31. I've always had depression,it runs in absolutely every generation on my dad's side of the family.It's just an inherited chemical imbalance. I've been on Effexor, that made me feel very angry all the time.Wellbutrin made me have to piss a lot.Prozac works ok when it gets real bad,but if I take it too long, I become numb. So,since I have responsibilities and can't run around stoned all the time, I found that every couple of weeks or so, and usually a lot less, if I smoke some bowls, it keeps me on an even keel.Sometimes I need it more than twice a month, mostly, I need it less, especially as time goes on. It feels like it shuts that part of my brain off,the one that makes me moody and sad,and eases any tension I may or may not be feeling. If I'm having a particularly bad episode, I will smoke bowl after bowl until I "feel" that part of my brain shut down.Then perhaps I whip out my jackrabbit,take care of that business, and go to sleep.
I do not have brain damage.I'm fairly intelligent.I'm not an addict.
When I started with the pills, I noticed cognitive impairment fairly quickly....which went away when I layed off.I'm supposed to be on 40 mg prozac a day. Instead, I give the shit away to people who can't afford it(because it does help some people) and just take one every once in a while, if I feel a real bad crash coming on.
I'm not against pills, but if there's a natural substitute,I'd rather use that.
I have no way to verify this, but I think my smoking sessions have "trained" my brain out of the worst of the depression.Since I've been treating myself with it, my depressive episodes are fewer and farther between.:peace:
 
poplars

poplars

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Stoney McFried said:
Well, just to put my experience in.....
I've smoked pot since I was 15,on and off.I'm 31. I've always had depression,it runs in absolutely every generation on my dad's side of the family.It's just an inherited chemical imbalance. I've been on Effexor, that made me feel very angry all the time.Wellbutrin made me have to piss a lot.Prozac works ok when it gets real bad,but if I take it too long, I become numb. So,since I have responsibilities and can't run around stoned all the time, I found that every couple of weeks or so, and usually a lot less, if I smoke some bowls, it keeps me on an even keel.Sometimes I need it more than twice a month, mostly, I need it less, especially as time goes on. It feels like it shuts that part of my brain off,the one that makes me moody and sad,and eases any tension I may or may not be feeling. If I'm having a particularly bad episode, I will smoke bowl after bowl until I "feel" that part of my brain shut down.Then perhaps I whip out my jackrabbit,take care of that business, and go to sleep.
I do not have brain damage.I'm fairly intelligent.I'm not an addict.
When I started with the pills, I noticed cognitive impairment fairly quickly....which went away when I layed off.I'm supposed to be on 40 mg prozac a day. Instead, I give the shit away to people who can't afford it(because it does help some people) and just take one every once in a while, if I feel a real bad crash coming on.
I'm not against pills, but if there's a natural substitute,I'd rather use that.
I have no way to verify this, but I think my smoking sessions have "trained" my brain out of the worst of the depression.Since I've been treating myself with it, my depressive episodes are fewer and farther between.:peace:
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yeah, depression can be largely habitual.

cannabis can help you break the cycle, so to speak ;).
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Well, if you knew me, you'd know I'm not the type to form an attachment to drama,nor to be melancholy just because there's nothing else to do...it's simply a chemical imbalance,and marijuana has helped with it a great deal.Believe me, nobody who actually has depression lapses into it from "habit".The lows are just fucking awful. You recognize that it isn't productive to feel this way;you know it would be better if you could just "be happy",but your brain is simply not producing the chemicals to balance you out in adequate quantities.There's no "reason" you feel the way you do...hell, I've just been doing something fun, completely happy, and had a crash without warning. I've learned to recognize when one is going to happen for the most part, but sometimes, there is no warning.I've found that cannabis has lessened both the frequency and severity of the lows.:peace:
poplars said:
yeah, depression can be largely habitual.

cannabis can help you break the cycle, so to speak ;).
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