Marijuana DUI Bill Fails Again In Colorado

MacGuyver4.2.0

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[h=2]Marijuana DUI Bill Fails Again In Colorado
from TokeoftheTown[/h]
Timothy Tipton
The Colorado Senate on Tuesday afternoon killed a marijuana DUI bill
A marijuana DUI bill early Tuesday afternoon failed again to clear the Colorado Senate, once again being voted down.

The DUI bill has been a rollercoaster for the past two years, reports Michael Roberts at Denver Westword, perhaps due at least partially to the fact that there's no solid science supporting the proposed limit of five nanograms per milliliter (5 ng/ml) as being at all correlated with actual driving impairment.


Failure of the bill once again in the Colorado Legislature (for the third time) may have reverberations all the way to the U.S. West Coast, since an identical DUI limit -- 5 ng/ml -- currently threatens to derail a semi-legalization initiative, I-502, in Washington state.


The DUI bill, HBS-1005, reportedly lost on a 217-7 stand-up vote in the Senate, according to Denver activist Timothy Tipton.



After the Senate voted down the bill on the informal stand-up vote, an effort to revive it failed on a 17-17 split because one key supporter was absent, according to Nunn, Colorado-based activist Rev. B. Baker.


The tie couldn't be broken, despite several attempts to do so, reports Michael Roberts at Westword.


The missing vote was that of Sen. Nancy Spence (R-Centennial), who supported the DUI bill but was on vacation. Spence also the deciding vote on a nearly identical bill in the Legislature's regular session.



The marijuana DUI bill now won't be coming back until at least the next legislative session in 2013.


Currently in Colorado and most other states, drugged-driving convictions depend on officer observations; actual impairment, rather than an artificial cut-off point like 5 ng/ml, is the determining factor.
 

chef c

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Officer observation? Haha, what a joke. "So, had anything to drink today?", "No officer.", "How much pot you smoke today?", "None."... This its where it gets interusting... "Why do I smell pot in here" (anything to falsify probable cause, right?) "Really? As far as I know cannabis had never been smoked in this car...", "Mind doing a road side test for me?" (fuck, at this point your choices are very limited. A) yes I mind gets you charged w DUID, arrested, taken to jail, and tested for active cannabanoids, not to mention any other scrips or alcohol you might have in your system... B) No, that's fine. I'll take your tests. Even if you pass...) "Ok, now I just need you to come back to the station w me and submit to a blood test." ( In which case you have to go to the station most likely having to leave your car, subject it to being towed, or vandalized, take a blood test, that will also test for any scrips, or alcohol in your system, leaving you at the least out of a full day, poked, blood drawn, and generally humiliated all because the SS had probable cause). --- whacha guys think bout that? All I can say is it's absolute bull shit.
 

cannofbliss

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to chef c...

youre forgetting your own natural inherent rights, and as long as you dont give them ANY form of consent, they cannot test you for shit... ;)
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
finally some people with some fucking common sense which seems tobe absent a lot of times nowadays..

i've said it a hundred times, and i'll continue saying it, but driving stoned does not impare my driving whatsoever, not in the least bit.. ok, ok, i might stop at a stop sign and wait for it to turn green, but is that really so bad??
or i might turn up my radio and sing a lil louder to whatever i'm jamming out to at the time, but that's about it for me.. been driving stoned for over 20 years and never an accident, never a ticket for reckless driving, etc..
i'd love to see the study that says driving stoned is even anything comparable to driving drunk.. it's complete horse shit.. as is the 5nm limit as we all know i could have smoked a joint or 2 a week ago and still test positive for thc at that level, and how the fuck did that impair my driving at all??

lastly, anyone remember the show wkrp in cincinati (sp?) from like the 70s or 80s?? well, one time they were doing an on air impairment test to see how weed affected the dj's reaction time.. it was classic.. the more he smoked, the faster his reaction times got...
 

chef c

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to chef c...

youre forgetting your own natural inherent rights, and as long as you dont give them ANY form of consent, they cannot test you for shit... ;)
If you have a colorado divers license, you signed an expressed consent form saying that if you will comply with all tests that john q law requests. you DO have the right not to consent, however you WILL be charged with duid and have to fight it in court, and you'll loose. It's how things work in this country. pay up. Go to jail, even if you weren't blazed and just didn't want to be subjected to some nazi pigs harassment and accusations. So, for US, it's complete shit. cops have way to much power. And no accountability, and they will ass fuck you in a heart beat. Best choice is to consent, and be under the limit, or, what may have started as a fishing expedition may end up ruining your life. And colorado is a life long state, so if you had a dui, dwai, duid even sixty years ago, it will be counted as a subsequent charge. This law could be a nightmare for the public and just another bullshit excuse to get harassed by the ss. Say you have a scrip for percocet, you get pulled for speeding, cop wants to test for cannabis, you pass for cannabanoids, fail for opiates, duid. It won't matter any more. They will have the ultimate excuse to fuck with anyone they come in contact w. Fuck those crooked ass screws, and the politics that give them the power to ruin lives.
 

Moses.Lyons

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DUI's are only valid in CO for 3 years

If you have more than 1 you become
Habitual Traffic Offender - DUI

DUI-D is a non-sequitur as is this Bill, if a cop
really wants to DUI you for weed, he will with or
without this bill. As well as possession of a controlled substance,
possession of drug paraphernalia, DWAI-D.

How do I know this? DUI-D Marijuana 2001.

The only reason this Bill exists AGAIN is because Amendment 64 is on the
ballot this year. "TAX AND REGULATE CANNABIS LIKE ALCOHOL" is exactly
that. I promise you IF Amendment 64 passes, this Bill WILL pass in 2013
 

chef c

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Believe what you want moses, colorado IS a life long state, and if you get charged, it won't matter if your last one was twenty days ago or twenty years ago, you will be charged as tho it was last week. And there is another lil tid bit that I want everyone to know about... If the DA finds any other out of state dui dwai duidontgiveafuckwhats those will count against you as well. Finally there is no difference in the courts eyes between a dui and a dwai, you will be sentenced as tho it was a dui. Moses, 2001 was a long time ago, laws have changed. Be careful out there guys and girls.
 

Moses.Lyons

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As far as driving record goes, 3 years SR-22 insurance, 7 years actual infraction
(meaning the DUI, DWAI, DUI-D will roll off of a driving record for employment purposes)
Conviction yes it is life long because it is a criminal action, multiple DUI's in
terms of a crime will trigger minimum sentences no matter how many years
apart, very much like felons and "The Bitch", multiple DUI's in terms of driving
privileges do have shelf-lifes.

DWAI, DUI, DUI-D, are all (criminally) charged differently with resultant consequences for
each, based on case facts and the offender (multiple offenses) in terms of criminal punishment.
The Department of Revenue determines the outcome of driving privileges ie. whether
or not the license is revoked, if an interlock device is required etc. The Department of Revenue
views a traffic infraction in terms of point violations and propensity to offend, 12 points in a year
is 12 points in a year, whether or not its in a single action ie. DUI, Speed Contest, Attempted
Vehicular Homicide, etc or 6 x "2 point defective vehicles".
 

Moses.Lyons

Active Member
The point of all of this is that, to quote Alanzo in Training Day, "This ain't Checkers,
motherfucker this is Chess!"

We (the People) move one way (Amendment 64) they (the Man) move to counter the effects
of ...our Movements.

Why is this a big deal?

To ensure the longevity of our (the American) way of life, and all of the First World Problems
we have.
 
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