Marijuana Genetics

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420Blunt's

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I'm interested to see if anybody has messed with the genetics of marijuana. has anybody every looked closer into marijuana on a molecular scale? i just dont understand how the active ingredients in marijauna have not been placed in other forms of fruit. like tobacco that produces THC along with nicotine. even a corn stalk that has CBD's in the kernals. :leaf::leaf::leaf:

what about grafting? has anybody ever grafted marijuana to another plant or even vice versa? ive read of hops being grafted to a pot plant. it continued to grow but no thc was produced off of the hops. any 1st hand experience with any of this? maybe a link to a site that has more info.

any help would be awesome -- thanks!:weed:
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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What most people arn't really aware of is that cannabis does not completely respect the genetic laws of vegetable organisms. This is why it's sometimes called the "alien plant", since some people actually believe or just kid around that it's not of this world. Some go so far as to say that aliens created this plant as a natural relaxant for humans, since no other plant has cannabinoids, compounds that occur naturaly in the human body and are responsable for keeping the immune, circulatory, hormone, digestive and neural system healthy and ballanced.

Unlike most plants, cannabis has a female and male sex. Yet the expression of the sex can be changed, not only before the seed is germinated, but even before flowering (here's a link: http://www.snow-white.nl/engeland/h40PERCENTAGEOFFEMALES.htm ).

Also, it's one of very few plants where the female naturally hermaphrodises in order to assure seed production.

Cannabis does not completely respect Mendel's laws. In normal plants recessive genes are not expressed at all, whereas in cannabis, recessive genes are still expressed to a certain degree. This offers the many surprises and pleasures of crossing strains, other wise it would all be predictable and boring.

Cannabis has the fastest metabolism of ALL living procariots (higher living organisms). I'd guess you already figured that out since it can take you only 3 months to grow a 5m tall sativa if you so wished. Also, try placing a light next to your cannabis plant and in less than 5 min all leaves will be facing it. That's fast for any plant.

Cannabis refuses to exchange genetic information with any grafted plant. Even grafting a branch of a different strain will not end up with a combined bud growth for that branch.

Last thing, cannabis has no other relatives except for hemp. The leaf pattern and cannabinoid production is nowhere else to be found today. It could very well be an "alien plant".
 
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thanks doc, helpful info. i think the first step would be to determine what causes the cannabinoids. ive heard its a sunscreen, a pest/rodent repelant, ive even heard the whole alien thing before. i think finding what causes it to grow could help get a jumpstart. we will have to look at it a lot closer.
 
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TMB77

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Doctor Cannabis said:
What most people arn't really aware of is that cannabis does not completely respect the genetic laws of vegetable organisms. This is why it's sometimes called the "alien plant", since some people actually believe or just kid around that it's not of this world. Some go so far as to say that aliens created this plant as a natural relaxant for humans, since no other plant has cannabinoids, compounds that occur naturaly in the human body and are responsable for keeping the immune, circulatory, hormone, digestive and neural system healthy and ballanced.

Unlike most plants, cannabis has a female and male sex. Yet the expression of the sex can be changed, not only before the seed is germinated, but even before flowering (here's a link: http://www.snow-white.nl/engeland/h40PERCENTAGEOFFEMALES.htm ).

Also, it's one of very few plants where the female naturally hermaphrodises in order to assure seed production.

Cannabis does not completely respect Mendel's laws. In normal plants recessive genes are not expressed at all, whereas in cannabis, recessive genes are still expressed to a certain degree. This offers the many surprises and pleasures of crossing strains, other wise it would all be predictable and boring.

Cannabis has the fastest metabolism of ALL living procariots (higher living organisms). I'd guess you already figured that out since it can take you only 3 months to grow a 5m tall sativa if you so wished. Also, try placing a light next to your cannabis plant and in less than 5 min all leaves will be facing it. That's fast for any plant.

Cannabis refuses to exchange genetic information with any grafted plant. Even grafting a branch of a different strain will not end up with a combined bud growth for that branch.

Last thing, cannabis has no other relatives except for hemp. The leaf pattern and cannabinoid production is nowhere else to be found today. It could very well be an "alien plant".
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Um...you have no clue what you are talking about, and shouldn't be passing along such...completely rubbish information as this.
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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TMB77 said:
Um...you have no clue what you are talking about, and shouldn't be passing along such...completely rubbish information as this.
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If anything I said is wrong, I apologize and hope to be directed to better, correct information. I assure you that nothing I wrote was fabricated, all is documented and obtained from sites, books or my biology and genetics classes. I do not mean to say that what I wrote was objectively, indisputably correct, but that it was what I have been taught and have personally believed to be correct. If you can direct me to information that will disprove anything that I have said, I will correct it immediately without hesitation. We're here to learn, explore and understand, to add to our collected knowledge, not to break it down except if totally necessary.
 
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Bubba Kushman

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All I really need to know is what strain will knock me out and which one will send me to the moon. The actual science is pretty revealing to me. It shows no real negatives to its use. Im sure pot was put here for my enjoyment by my creator and I like it and it keeps me from clubbing some idiots I dont like! Its a great healing herb and everyone who needs it should have access without fear of prosecution.
 
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TMB77

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Doctor Cannabis said:
If anything I said is wrong, I apologize and hope to be directed to better, correct information. I assure you that nothing I wrote was fabricated, all is documented and obtained from sites, books or my biology and genetics classes. I do not mean to say that what I wrote was objectively, indisputably correct, but that it was what I have been taught and have personally believed to be correct. If you can direct me to information that will disprove anything that I have said, I will correct it immediately without hesitation. We're here to learn, explore and understand, to add to our collected knowledge, not to break it down except if totally necessary.
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Psh, fine...how about.."Cannabis has the fastest metabolism of ALL living procariots (higher living organisms)."

Do I need to point out to you the multiple things wrong with this sentence?

Procariots (actually prokaryotes) are cells WITHOUT a true nucleus. They are single celled organisms.
EUkaryotes are everything (all plants and animals) who's cells have a true nucleus. Dude, that is like....6th grade biology.

Also, no way does herb have the fastest metabolism of eukaryotes, it isnt even the fastest growing plant. You're completely just talking out of your ass. I've taken the classes kid, i've got the degree...you're spewin garbage here.
 
scoregreen

scoregreen

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Im more interested in the reality of UVB light on THC growth, if so, im getting the UVB bulb tomorrow!!

and if so, i have a little over a month left of flowering -- would i see any change from now to then by implementing the UVB?

Thanks for bringing it to my attention Doctor Cannabis
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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TMB77 said:
Procariots (actually prokaryotes) are cells WITHOUT a true nucleus. They are single celled organisms.
EUkaryotes are everything (all plants and animals) who's cells have a true nucleus. Dude, that is like....6th grade biology.

Also, no way does herb have the fastest metabolism of eukaryotes, it isnt even the fastest growing plant.
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I looked it up once more, terribly sorry for this confusion, it is eukaryotes. I am well aware of the difference between pro and eucaryotes, I just got the names mixed up. Not as a defense, but my native language contains a word that sounds similar and is usually frowned upon, so we try to eliminate it completely from our vocabulary.

Yet I have been told and I have seen it repeated and confirmed numerous times that it is the fastest growing organism in the world, with the fastest cell duplication rate of any eucaryote.

scoregreen said:
Im more interested in the reality of UVB light on THC growth, if so, im getting the UVB bulb tomorrow!!

and if so, i have a little over a month left of flowering -- would i see any change from now to then by implementing the UVB?
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Getting a UVB bulb is a great way of maximizing the potency of your buds. You've probabily seen the vid I linked in a previous post.

UVB lights are usually sold for reptile habitats, at petshops. A 10% UVB light, kept running some 4-6h/day in the middle of the day is perfect for your plant.

UVB light can be damaging for your skin, if you're exposed to it more than 5-10 min at a 10% bulb. Under 5 min it will just deliver a nice tan. (UVB bulbs are also used in solariums, since UVB is responsible for tan and vitamin D production).

It's best to start shining some UVB on your plant after 3-4 weeks of flowering, so the plant is 100% metabolically capable of defending herself though trichome production.

You can still add the UVB light, even if you have only 1 more month to go and definitly see changes. If you want more info on UVB light, check these links out:
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/36510-uvb-thc-experiment.html
http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/thc.html
 
420Blunt's

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TMB77 said:
Psh, fine...how about.."Cannabis has the fastest metabolism of ALL living procariots (higher living organisms)."

Do I need to point out to you the multiple things wrong with this sentence?

Procariots (actually prokaryotes) are cells WITHOUT a true nucleus. They are single celled organisms.
EUkaryotes are everything (all plants and animals) who's cells have a true nucleus. Dude, that is like....6th grade biology.

Also, no way does herb have the fastest metabolism of eukaryotes, it isnt even the fastest growing plant. You're completely just talking out of your ass. I've taken the classes kid, i've got the degree...you're spewin garbage here.
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i do know that besides bamboo, marijuana is the fastest maturing plant being able to complete its entire life span in well under a year
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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420Blunt's said:
i do know that besides bamboo, marijuana is the fastest maturing plant being able to complete its entire life span in well under a year
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Don't forget kudzu as a fast grower.
As for plants that complete their life cycle in less than a year, that is the definition of annual plant. So in that respect, cannabis isn't anything special.
 
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420Blunt's

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kudzo is a vine -- i figured u knew vines were N/A. vines grow fast as fuck -- but cannabis is far more resourceful than any vine you'll come across -- especially kudzo, its not even native to america
 
mindphuk

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420Blunt's said:
kudzo is a vine -- i figured u knew vines were N/A. vines grow fast as fuck -- but cannabis is far more resourceful than any vine you'll come across -- especially kudzo, its not even native to america
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psst! Cannabis isn't native to America either.

What do you mean vines are NA? A vine is a plant that climbs. Some vines are bushes through part of their life cycle. Eliminating vines is arbitrary.
What does it mean for a plant to be 'more resourceful' than another? Now it seems you are just making shit up. :weed:

Seriously, we are rebutting doc's claim that cannabis is the "fastest growing organism in the world, with the fastest cell duplication rate of any eucaryote."
Now you are attempting to limit counter examples?
 
Doctor Cannabis

Doctor Cannabis

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I reread the info I have and it states:

"With proper conditions (ex.: an 18h day), cannabis can be considered the plant with the fastest metabolism of any plant, maybe even of any eukaryote. Cell reproduction is fastest when ideal vital conditions are met. No other plant has shown a 35% increase in metabolism due to ideal vital conditions. Thus cannabis sativa is the plant with the highest possible metabolism to be reached by a life form of higher organization."

Extracted from translated from "Natura 3 Oberstufe Genetikmaterial", one of my high school biology and genetics class text books.

EDIT: The book is from 1992, so new research in this area may have disproven it.
 
420Blunt's

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mindphuk said:
psst! Cannabis isn't native to America either.

What do you mean vines are NA? A vine is a plant that climbs. Some vines are bushes through part of their life cycle. Eliminating vines is arbitrary.
What does it mean for a plant to be 'more resourceful' than another? Now it seems you are just making shit up. :weed:

Seriously, we are rebutting doc's claim that cannabis is the "fastest growing organism in the world, with the fastest cell duplication rate of any eucaryote."
Now you are attempting to limit counter examples?
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marijuana is found on every continent except for antartica. and yes it is wild. ruderalis grows wild in americas. indica's and afganicas grow in europe and middle east wild. while sativa's grow naturally in asia.

i said vines are not applicable bc you can get a vegitable from some vines and you can even make rope out of some vines. you cant make it as strong or reliable rope as hemp. vines dont make clothes, medicine, oils, paper, food, etc. many other plants can but still not like marijuana can on an annual basis.

oh and if you didnt know marijuana has been in american since before columbus 'discovered' america. its one of the oldest living plants as well.

and as for bush vines? no -- they are vines that look like bushes in part of their life cycle
 
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