I want to warn anyone thinking of buying strains from riot seeds that I have been alerted to the fact that riot seeds are using some of my pictures taken from my threads and renaming them as their own strains.
the strains that I know of are
Riot Seeds Fuckberry it is actually a pic of my Black Rose complete with my watermark!
Riot Seeds Blood Rose again a different pic of my Black Rose complete with my watermark!
Riot Seeds Sid Vicious is a pic of the Cannabiogen Seeds Sandstorm
Double Black Doja is a pic from one of my 2006 threads of a Black Russian!
these were listed on the Attitude seedbank but I have noticed that they have taken a couple of the pictures down now (I wonder why!) it seems highly unlikely that they were posted in error as they were posted on the riot site as well, in fact the Riot Double Black Doja is still showing the 2006 Black russian image.
so just a heads up, research what you are buying before you part with your hard earned cash
Heath
I knew you from HG420, before it disappeared. I'm wondering why you only single Riot Seeds out? I've been growing and hobby breeding since the late 70's and have seen so many seed companies do this. Alot of seed banks do not even breed the lines they carry. I can go on forever about how many breeders use other breeder's strains to create a strain they call their own, yourself included. Anyone who has been in the game for as long as me has seen this done, even Neville, how many of Seed Bank's strains were a result of crossing strains he created? Very, very few. NL, Skunk, Haze, G-13 all were around long before Neville decided to kick herion and start a seed company.
I do understand your concern, however, why are you only targeting one breeder/seed producer? How many of these so-called breeders are acutally breeding their own lines? Here, I'll answer that for you, less than 1% if that. Many are using mothers from already existing strains, others are using already existing strains to create a cross they call their own. Your Black Rose, if my memory serves me correctly, is Subcool's Double Purple Doja X Shiva Skunk; did you create either of those strains which went into B.R.? I know you did'nt. So we have answered that question. Same with your Chiesel.
I have seen this shit go on for over 30 yrs, and have had many, many strains reworked, reproduced, or used in crosses and sold by many, many breeders; with not one word or acknowledgement of me. Do I put them out there on open forums, no, I do not, why, b/c I know my work, am confident in my work, and know another breeder is not using the detail of selection I am, they are not growing 100's of plants to find a single mother and/or father, they are simply using a special strain to make money, with little or no respect for the strain or species of cannabis..
Want some honest and good advice on seeds people, I shall give it to you. Almost any strain you buy on the commercial seed market is the work of hobby breeders like myself yrs & yrs ago. If it is not an exact decendant of one of these strains, it possesses some of it in it's lineage someplace. I started collecting land races in the 70's and began working with them to find th best of the best; quite often growing 100's of plants until I found that special female or male. You will not get me to sell any of my strains ever again. This is just for the simple fact I do not breed nor grow for money and/or profits, I grow and breed out of a pure desire to preserve true breeding lines, and b/c I possess a true and honest respect for the species of plant known as cannabis.
Do I know Matt personally? No. Have I talked to him? Yes, on several occasions, just as I have over 100 hobby breeders/seed producers over the past 30 yrs. Was Matt wrong for using another breeder's pics? Yes, it was misrepresentation. Is Matt the only breeder doing this? Hell no! My suggestion, wait and seek out grow journals of his lines, then pass judgement on whether or not his strains are incredible, just good, bad, or just another avg strain on the market. I have watched breeders hate on each other for over 30 yrs, it is like the Rap music industry, they all want a name for themselves, often at gaining attention for putting down or discrediting another. The truth is in the genetics, not the person selling the genetics. Talk is cheap, and from what I have seen, especially over the past 10 yrs or so, is alot of talk and most of it is just that....talk. Hate me if you want, go ahead, take sides, it is not going to hurt me b/c I do not sell seeds or flowers, I donate, share, and treat cannabis as it was meant to be treated, with respect and dignity.