Marijuana Users Face Workplace Discrimination: Ban The Box Campaign Fights Back

What about national defense employees with top secret clearances. I don't see them on your list. Maybe if you actually worked a federal position you would understand that there is no blanket policy.
I'm not going to argue with a non federal employee about federal employment.
 
BigEasy1 said:
What about national defense employees with top secret clearances. I don't see them on your list. Maybe if you actually worked a federal position you would understand that there is no blanket policy.
I'm not going to argue with a non federal employee about federal employment.
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READ WHAT I POSTED YOU FUCKING FOOL.

I JUST spoon-fed you a few examples since you're too fucking lazy to read the info I linked you. One of the examples was "People who work with or near Classified/Sensitive Information"

You don't know where I've worked
 
TakeTheTicket said:
READ WHAT I POSTED YOU FUCKING FOOL.

I JUST spoon-fed you a few examples since you're too fucking lazy to read the info I linked you. One of the examples was "People who work with or near Classified/Sensitive Information"

You don't know where I've worked
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I can tell you've never had a job worth a fuck hence your fascination with how to beat drug tests throwing up the Fourth Admendment.

Yes, I'd like fries with that.
 
Oh and if you knew anything about national defense employment you'd know that most people making more than 25K a year already have a clearance. Take a wild guess what is asked on the clearance.
 
BigEasy1 said:
Oh and if you knew anything about national defense employment you'd know that most people making more than 25K a year already have a clearance. Take a wild guess what is asked on the clearance.
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Everyone asks... They also ask in the lifestyle questionnaires too.
 
BigEasy1 said:
I can tell you've never had a job worth a fuck hence your fascination with how to beat drug tests throwing up the Fourth Admendment.

Yes, I'd like fries with that.
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Ha. I can tell you've never had a job that paid anything worthwhile since you can't read. The fourth amendment is cited in multiple documents regarding the legality of testing public employees, including a few court cases.. one of which I linked you.

BigEasy1 said:
Oh and if you knew anything about national defense employment you'd know that most people making more than 25K a year already have a clearance. Take a wild guess what is asked on the clearance.
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Holy shit now I know you're just high. Yeah EVERYONE has top secret security clearance.... :roll: Regardless of the number of people that has access to classified information (relevance..?), I did list it as an example of a position that gets drug tested, and so did the information that I linked you. Fuck you're a sad sack of shit.
 
TakeTheTicket said:
Ha. I can tell you've never had a job that paid anything worthwhile since you can't read. The fourth amendment is cited in multiple documents regarding the legality of testing public employees, including a few court cases.. one of which I linked you.



Holy shit now I know you're just high. Yeah EVERYONE has top secret security clearance.... :roll: Regardless of the number of people that has access to classified information (relevance..?), I did list it as an example of a position that gets drug tested, and so did the information that I linked you. Fuck you're a sad sack of shit.
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http://www.tsa.gov/careers

TOP SECRET ASS
 
TakeTheTicket said:
Urine tests are the problem. The burden should be on the employer to prove that the employee is under the influence at that moment. Unfortunately without legislation, private businesses can use whatever test they want and random test you whenever they want as long as the testing doesn't discriminate and the policy is outlined in their employee handbook and made clear at the time of hire. Government jobs are better: they can do a pre-employment drug test, but they can't do random tests on you.
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In the aftermath of a workplace accident where the employee and co workers were injured and property was damaged.
If the employee was found to be under the influence, should the employer be responsible for the employees actions, why or why not?
Should the guilty employee be responsible, why or why not?
 
If the feds were to legalize marijuana, but did not put in protections for legitimate documented necessity from ones doctor, one could still be fired. Drinking and using tobacco is a 100% legal activity. But companies can choose to not hire and can fire due to the use, even if off company time. There are prescription drugs that can prevent someone from holding a driving, heavy equipment, or dangerous job to to possible side effects, even though it is legally prescribed. When marijuana becomes legal for use, don't think for a minute that it will not effect your job. If a legal tobacco user can be fired for off job use (some companies drug test for nicotine, and don't allow patches or gums), they can do the same for marijuana. If medical is classified as a medicine and falls under protection of Americans with Disabilities Act, one can still have issues if the job required driving, using heavy machines, or in itself is dangerous stone cold sober such as assembly line manufacturing or working around hazardous moving equipment.
 
TakeTheTicket said:
Even though I've already established which public employees get drug tested, I figured I'd check out the legislation that "BigEasy1" kept going on about. I looked up Reagan's "Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988". It does NOT require drug testing.

http://cbaclelegalconnection.com/20...five-myths-about-the-drug-free-workplace-act/

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title41/subtitle4/chapter81&edition=prelim
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What he was referring to re: vetting process for a clearance job is correct. You WILL be asked when filling out your lifestyle questionnaire which you will then be asked about on a polygraph.

The position and type of clearance will determine how frequently you need to be re-examined but it is a standard question re: drug use.
 
earnest_voice said:
What he was referring to re: vetting process for a clearance job is correct. You WILL be asked when filling out your lifestyle questionnaire which you will then be asked about on a polygraph.

The position and type of clearance will determine how frequently you need to be re-examined but it is a standard question re: drug use.
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I'm aware of that...

TakeTheTicket said:
Some examples include:
Motor Vehicle Operators (DOT)
People who work with or near Classified/Sensitive Information
Aviation
Medical Professionals
Police Officers and Fire Fighters
Drug Interdiction (such as customs agents)
Prison Employees
POST ACCIDENT TESTING
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