Grandpapy
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I've spent my savings fighting cancer, and now you post a clip I need a hearing aid to hear. I cant afford information and food.
Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense
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ttystikk
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It's tough to hear the students but you can hear Mark just fine.
Grandpapy
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I'd like to point out that my hearing loss/respiratory issues is attributed to the advancement of the mining and oil development industries, just like the Chromes and Lead left in my water, air and soil.
But hey, now we are in a race with the Global Economy but for who's common good?
ttystikk
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Why, the rich of course... Corporations and their owners will act like parasites towards any group unless they are limited by law and regulation- and the very real threat of consequences should they flout them.
This is fundamentally what's gone wrong with America; regulatory capture has become a habitual artifact of industry with the natural consequence of relaxation of laws that limit their activities and accountability to anyone. The political class has done the same, so no one can be held accountable for the excesses of business activity.
Today we have the spectacle of ultra wealthy people who in private call themselves compassionate but in public advance policies of tax cuts for themselves while dismantling services for millions of their sick and poor countrymen.
They wouldn't treat their own dogs so badly, but it's okay to screw the poor so they can have another tax cut.
Fuck a 'New' New Deal; the old one worked fine. Universal healthcare works for every other developed nation; the only reason it won't here is because the greedy rich won't allow it.
It's time to tell those greedy rich that they are obligated to take care of us as the source of their wealth- or we will take OUR wealth back; we helped them make it and if they won't live up to their end of the Social Contract, We the People will no longer live up to ours.
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PCXV
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Are democrats to blame to any extent for "healthcare, bank bailouts, letting homeowners twist in the wind, an utter failure to reform taxes for the benefit of the working class, a complete lack of any acknowledgement of extreme income and wealth inequality, the national shame of the current minimum wage"?
Are Republicans solely to blame for where we are today?
ttystikk
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Both parties have plenty of blame to share.
It's time to stop playing their 'us vs them' games and realize the whole system is rigged in favor of the biggest corporations and banks. None of them are being held accountable by enough people on either side of the aisle. Understandable, because that's where their money comes from in order to stay in power themselves.
It's New Deal time. Or, we can have another Great Depression and maybe a few wars first. It's up to We the People.
ttystikk
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Yes, one of them is called complacency and another is called apathy. Much mischief can happen when these two cracks run together.
What this country needs is accountability and enforced responsibility. And we need vigilance and more accountability on the part of those charged with watching and making sure everyone plays by the rules.
If this failure is allowed to continue we won't have a country left- and the first people to be targeted in the chaos will be the rich themselves. Then we'll turn on each other. That's the end of civilisation, because we'll surely use all those weapons we made and once we do there will be nothing left of us.
It's time for an end to runaway greed and a new beginning to working together for the common benefit of all of our countrymen. Our nation and even the very future of humanity depends on it.
It's not communism; it's compassion.
It's not anarchy; it's accountability.
It's not redistribution; it's responsibility.
It's not surveillance; it's civility.
ttystikk
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We the People are the answer. WE must elect leaders who understand what's at stake and what to do. WE must hold them and the rest of our government, from Federal Government all the way down to dog catcher, accountable for the consequences of their actions and legislation. WE must hold corporations accountable for their abuses of power, the economy, the environment and our people.
The alternative is chaos, another Great Depression and more wars of imperialism on our hands.
We don't just need a Women's March, though their cause is just, we need to come out in our millions to put an end to Citizens United and corporate control of our government.
The alternative is chaos, another Great Depression and more wars of imperialism on our hands.
We don't just need a Women's March, though their cause is just, we need to come out in our millions to put an end to Citizens United and corporate control of our government.
Justin-case
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Bernie... is that you?
ttystikk
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Lol
When you find someone who's saying what you believe in, you back them!
So flip the script; what other choice do we have? Is the current state of our country sustainable?
Should we just start shooting the homeless?
Is it really okay for the Walton family to bribe our political system to allow them to welch on paying their estate taxes?! WTF are they going to do with $52 BILLION DOLLARS that they can't with the billions they already have? (The answer? POWER)
The American People already don't get fuck all from our government, it is far too busy giving tax breaks to the ultra wealthy.
How does it end? HINT: read your history. Start at 1920, and see how it goes...
If I sound like Bernie, it's only because Bernie sounds an awful lot like FDR.
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ttystikk
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@DiogenesTheWiser read this thread and then tell me what you think. I can handle it.
SneekyNinja
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If Democrats could actually get stuff done without the most obstructionist Congress in the history of the nation them we'd be in a much better position.
If the bailouts weren't done you'd be saying Obama was cold for letting thousands of workers lose their jobs.
I'm gonna start calling it "Purple Blindness" for you morons who can't see past the guy's skin color.
ttystikk
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The Democrats are voting against single payer. They vote against minimum wage increases. They aren't who you keep trying to tell everyone they are.
ttystikk
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Another Mark Blyth video. He's the only one who predicted both Brexit and the rise of Chump. The average people in our country are being screwed by both parties, because we live in an oligarchy. Princeton professors proved it and Jimmy Carter has been saying it for years.
Oligarchy is when a small group of people in power are able to control the government and the economy to get what they want even offer the objections of the vast majority of the population. Just like Russia under Putin. Just like Nazi Germany.
The rise of Predatory Capitalism.
The rise of Predatory Capitalism.
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londonfog
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6 Dem in red leaning state voted against minimum wage increase. Concentrate on those guys/gals. Wasting your time , lecturing us here.
Also could you please post some Economical recipes to make this tread helpful
PCXV
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Do you think it's fair to say that some/most Democrats have been negligent to prevent or even been accomplices to the policy shift to the right since Reagan which has resulted in the problems I quoted above, related economic problems, and other problems such as a weakening of safety nets, outsourcing of jobs, increased incarceration rates, etc.?
BTW, I do not believe that the auto bailout was specified. And if I recall correctly, the problem with the bank bailout wasn't the bailout itself but the lack of stipulations and measures to break them up and prevent "too big to fail" from happening again.
How do you explain the shortcoming of voter turnout for the Democratic platform in 2016? Are there improvements to be made to either the platform or the messaging/campaigning?
I don't know what you mean by the "purple blindness" comment. Did you think I was blaming Obama for something?
I agree that Republican obstruction stymied the most recent efforts under the most recent platform. It's hard to say what could have been, but I also want to make sure that when we put Democrats in power again that I am able to understand their reasoning to how they legislate. Maybe it's a transparency issue? It seems that Democrats generally move us in the right direction but never finish the job when it requires standing up to big-money interests. I think many people don't trust Democrats to fix what they view as a rigged two-tier economy.
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UncleBuck
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as did 80% of coloradans.
ttystikk
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On the back of a 10% payroll tax. In other words, 'you pay for it', business will just keep raking it in and not contribute one thin dime. Awfully nice of them.
SneekyNinja
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Literally noone cares...
Let's make this thread useful:
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Grandpapy
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Outside influence was under strict (Global) examination as Germany reentered the market place.
That just ended up being better for the citizens.
Bad for VW now thou, they will have to lower their pay/standards of workers before they are allowed play world wide. (see TN,GA,SC lastly S.Korea)
"The company’s plan to convert millions of vehicles production capacity to electric within the next 10 years depends on it."
I hope they can do it, Predatory Capitalism has a way of suppressing innovation.
I like Mark but I believe he could show a little distaste for the Oil/Energy Industry and just come out and say how they manipulate Governments.
"But why is China even interested in Afghanistan? There are two motivators: security and commerce."
"China’s involvement in Afghanistan begin with the investments made by Chinese firms to extract Afghanistan’s vast mineral wealth, which is valued at about $1 trillion by the United States Geological Survey and $3 trillion by Afghanistan’s Minister of Mines.1 In 2007, Metallurgical Corporation of China (MCC) and Jiangxi Copper Corporation (JCCL) agreed to make the single largest foreign investment in Afghanistan to date—$4.4 billion—when they won a tender to develop what geologists believe is the world’s second largest undeveloped copper deposit at Aynak in Logar Province, 35 kilometers southeast of Kabul.2 In 2011, China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) and its Afghan partner, Watan Oil & Gas, secured the rights to three oil blocks in the provinces of Sari-i-Pul and Faryab in northwestern Afghanistan."
..and with all the bombings it makes it impossible for Tesla, Brazil or anyone one else to make a play.
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/chinese-troops-afghanistan
Note the lack of concern from Exxon- Secretary of State, Energy Dept. GM and Commerce in general.
Predatory Capitalism is a problem.
That just ended up being better for the citizens.
Bad for VW now thou, they will have to lower their pay/standards of workers before they are allowed play world wide. (see TN,GA,SC lastly S.Korea)
"The company’s plan to convert millions of vehicles production capacity to electric within the next 10 years depends on it."
I hope they can do it, Predatory Capitalism has a way of suppressing innovation.
I like Mark but I believe he could show a little distaste for the Oil/Energy Industry and just come out and say how they manipulate Governments.
"But why is China even interested in Afghanistan? There are two motivators: security and commerce."
"China’s involvement in Afghanistan begin with the investments made by Chinese firms to extract Afghanistan’s vast mineral wealth, which is valued at about $1 trillion by the United States Geological Survey and $3 trillion by Afghanistan’s Minister of Mines.1 In 2007, Metallurgical Corporation of China (MCC) and Jiangxi Copper Corporation (JCCL) agreed to make the single largest foreign investment in Afghanistan to date—$4.4 billion—when they won a tender to develop what geologists believe is the world’s second largest undeveloped copper deposit at Aynak in Logar Province, 35 kilometers southeast of Kabul.2 In 2011, China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) and its Afghan partner, Watan Oil & Gas, secured the rights to three oil blocks in the provinces of Sari-i-Pul and Faryab in northwestern Afghanistan."
..and with all the bombings it makes it impossible for Tesla, Brazil or anyone one else to make a play.
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/chinese-troops-afghanistan
Note the lack of concern from Exxon- Secretary of State, Energy Dept. GM and Commerce in general.
Predatory Capitalism is a problem.
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