Marketing Ploys Aimed at Cannabis Growers . Beware Newbs !

kingofqueen

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I'm going to share my entire RIU experiance in an attempt to educate others of the marketing schemes and grower trains of thoughts . I think this will be helpful in some way to others

I entered this forum as clueless as any other newb . I was overwhelmed at how many different nutes and additives . Holy hell there are so many and my how expensive they are . I fell for it some and then I read the famed 3lbs post on another forum . This explained to me for the first time that canna nutes are nothing but a way for people to profit at our expense considering most nutes are made from plant extracts and such beet molassas and etc . They explain how you can make all these nutes yourself and it's all organic.

I thought hell yeah forget buying expensive nutes when you can make your own stuff and it's all organic . MMM organics seems like a good direction to head . Read and researched all about it . I was intrigued by the soil food web and how it works to make nutrient uptake easier for the plant .BUT they say NO sythetic nutes can be used .It will KILL your miroherd .No acid ph down it kills your microherd . And no no no this and that . Okay easy enough get an organic non canna liquid nute and ammend the soil organicly.

Then I find Riddleme when the Balls to the Wall thread started and followed it . I'm thinking damn this guy just got back into growing but hell he is smart and knows how to talk to us on a level that is easy to understand. But with all the organics being crammed down my throat ,I was hard headed and just figured I couldn't do what they was doing because they use chem nutes and flushing would just wash out my goodies in the soil and disrupt the microherd since true organics relys on this for a good yield .

Well I am here to tell you my friends dont fall for the Organic hype no more than the Canna nutes . Both are nothing but business for profit they trick us into believing we need to buy this stuff . Organics is nothing but a green movement for growing and they make you think you have to use only organic products right down to PH adjusters and pest management .Organics is just a bad ploy as Cannanutes , dont fall for it like lots of us has .(Ask Daniels )

It's truly just about the plant . She doesn't care how much you spent on your nutes ,whether they are chem or organic ,or how popular they are , she doesn't care if it's OMRI certified you cant kill the micro herd ,it's a very strong string chain of bacteria and mutiplys 1000 times over. A profeser in this field gave UB some interesting info about this and basically said you have to pour bleach in your pot to kill the mircoherd .Not only that he led to believe that the microherd doesn't perform in containers as it does outdoors and basicly buying Myco for indoor grows is simply a waste of money .She just simply wants to be feed what she needs when she wants it .
And thanks to great people like RM3 and UB we now know how to do this and kick it in Overdrive . RM3 Make it Rain, UB water till plenty of run off , let her "wick",keep em green . Hints and clues and great articles from both of these good people we all look to for help at some point or another.It is truely epic what is going on at RIU ,could you imagine if it was gone tommorrow? Take advantage of this info NOW print it out for hard copies . Read and learn . I have been unemployed since I joined and spend time in here every day . If I was working it would take me a few years I think to learn what I have in a short amount of time and I am grateful .I have spent thousands of hours reading and researching everyday.

I have had that awakening now that I needed so badly. I was once blind but now I see . It feels like being as excited about this as the first day I joined .
In summary dont fall for the ploys. These guys are teaching us the honest to gods truth . Embrace it and your plants will reward you .

It's on now brother's , Hyperdrive is kicked in and monsters are on the way !

Peace !
KQ:leaf:

P.S This is why I started a new journal since in my other one I am hard headed and stuck on organics ,So to get this off my chest here a big FUCK organics and FUCK cannanutes for wasting my time .
 
.Not only that he led to believe that the microherd doesn't perform in containers as it does outdoors and basicly buying Myco for indoor grows is simply a waste of money .She just simply wants to be feed what she needs when she wants it .

Anyone know of any studies to support this? I am trying to wrap my brain around this and was wondering if anyone had a little extra light to shed on the subject.
 
Anyone know of any studies to support this? I am trying to wrap my brain around this and was wondering if anyone had a little extra light to shed on the subject.

You know as much as I do about that statement. The source I got it from is reliable(UB)

Believe me it's not worth worrying about adding myco .If it's in your soil when you pot that's about as far as it needs to be thought about.Worrying about this is a waste of time unless you wanna join the "green movement"
 
I wouldn't say myco is entirely useless, works great for keeping the funk out of my hydro reservoir. I started dosing with beneficial tea after contracting brown algae in a bucket system, so far its the only thing that kills that crap and that includes peroxide.
(Thanks, RichyRich@ICmag) kiss-ass

I also have gotten fuzzy white roots growing up through the surface of my soil when I decided to give them the unfiltered leftovers, never seen stuff like that before. I'm sure I'll get some criticism but just my 2 cents.
 
I wouldn't say myco is entirely useless, works great for keeping the funk out of my hydro reservoir. I started dosing with beneficial tea after contracting brown algae in a bucket system, so far its the only thing that kills that crap and that includes peroxide.
(Thanks, RichyRich@ICmag) kiss-ass

I also have gotten fuzzy white roots growing up through the surface of my soil when I decided to give them the unfiltered leftovers, never seen stuff like that before. I'm sure I'll get some criticism but just my 2 cents.

Right on man , but this is not at all a thread intended on myco dicussions . Did you read the whole Article ? We are talking about something far more greater here . Thanks for the insightful input :)
 
I dig it man, I read the entire thing and I think you make some good points. I just wanted to show that organics can have a time and place and should simply be looked at as another tool in the toolbox vs. entirely discarded, that's all.
 
It's truly just about the plant . She doesn't care how much you spent on your nutes ,whether they are chem or organic ,or how popular they are , she doesn't care if it's OMRI certified you cant kill the micro herd ,it's a very strong string chain of bacteria and mutiplys 1000 times over.

I read the entire article that you wrote and maybe my comprehension is off, but this is basically what I got from your message. You left me anticipating and wanting more, is there more to come? Is this a cliffhanger, don't get me going and then stop???:leaf::leaf::finger:
 
I read the entire article that you wrote and maybe my comprehension is off, but this is basically what I got from your message. You left me anticipating and wanting more, is there more to come? Is this a cliffhanger, don't get me going and then stop???:leaf::leaf::finger:

I am sorry what are you anticipating? Everything I have learned is here on this site . Every single detail you need to grow is on this site . If you mean what about upcoming for my grow? I have a journal it's in the sig . I'm no teacher I'm just leading on that I'm on track now. Everything you need is here , but the learning curve is still there . It's up to the person as to how fast they click , unlike some who totally miss the point of what I,m warning against to try to help a brother or sister out .Nothing about growing is meant to be taken away from that article . It's up to you the person to figure this out as for it is something that no one can explain . It come to everyone in time u just got to set aside your emotions and actually listen . When it clicks it's like being born again , aton of bricks lifting off your shoulders .
 
Came back to throw this 10 cents out there . This because I am a very kind person , one you would appriciate knowing . But don't be disrespectful there is no need for it . I get the finger for my insight ?
 
Kingofqueen, I too was sucked into the whole notion of fert this, ph Up & down that, blah blah blah. all i can say is if it works for them great! I have a 1 year old SLH mother and she gets nothing but straight tap water that has had an air stone in it for 24 hours and she is loving it. I do use superthrive when i transplant and a very week schultz mix during flowering. Total cost of my "nutes" $8.65 at wally world. The bud i grow is far better than anything I could get on the streets around my way and my friends love to visit lol... If you start with quality genetics like you said keep the plant green and it will keep you happy...
 
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