Jaybodankly
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The degradation that some people claim that a clone gets over time maybe a plant virus instead.Clone from clones, no degradation, moms kept for about a year each time.
The degradation that some people claim that a clone gets over time maybe a plant virus instead.Clone from clones, no degradation, moms kept for about a year each time.
a plant can adjust its leaves towards the light, but its stem will always grow against gravity because in nature to do so will get you most height benefitting from increasing survivability. Gravitropism.Any ideas why they aren’t pulling directly to the light and seem to be turning upwards?
Or just a lazy growerThe degradation that some people claim that a clone gets over time maybe a plant virus instead.
Dude... what are you going on about?If I use clones I’m only gonna have room
For one strain. I would need one hell of a strain that people won’t get bored of and yields good
Nah mate. They have immediately started growing entirely upwards into the plants above. I will start a proper journal when I get my next batch in with a proper net.@SamWE19 , did you start a thread/journal for this grow? If so, I couldn't find it... maybe a link? I'd really like to see how that canopy fills out.
Since they started growing into each other, what did you end out doing... scrap the grow and start over? pull every other row and do a half run?Nah mate. They have immediately started growing entirely upwards into the plants above. I will start a proper journal when I get my next batch in with a proper net.
They still get light and will still yield me 100+ oz so I’ve left them to their own for now.Since they started growing into each other, what did you end out doing... scrap the grow and start over? pull every other row and do a half run?
I look forward to seeing the next iteration. I'm always fascinated by interesting solutions to odd space challenges. I've actually read through all 9 pages of this, but I don't recall, does either the rack of plants or rack of lights currently move/roll? Throughout this grow, will your only direct access to the plants be walking between the lights and the pots?
Thanks for the reply. I guess we're all fighting these battles, just on different scales and with different variables and restrictions. Good luck to you, and I look forward to seeing how it goes down the road --They still get light and will still yield me 100+ oz so I’ve left them to their own for now.
There is very limited access to the plants once they are growing. The reason I’ve decided I need individual plant supports is because I can access the plants from behind the plant wall. Reaching between the individual vertical pipes. This will allow me to foliar feed the under side of leaves and move stems into the supports. If I had a double row of net I wouldn’t get my hand through the first net to feed stems into the second net
I can squeeze between lights and plants in an emergency but unlikely to ever need to.
I did build my light fixture on caster wheels but once it was built the whole thing weighs over 450kilos moving it ain’t gonna happen.
It is extremely tight for movement but I manage. It’s the price to pay for higher productivity
/\Cloning is so simple and can be made so difficult.
I use a tray of rapid rooters with a dome. Keep just enough water in the bottom of the tray that the little slots stay full. The dome should have condensation on the inside and it will "rain" on the cuttings. Works great for me, it's rare if I have one that doesn't root. Try to keep the tray around 80 degrees, they root faster warm. Heat mats work but use an inkbird temperature controller. I just set mine to the side in my veg room so they get indirect light.
They may just get too tall.@Renfro hey bud if I plan on growing single colas to test my pheno and for future clones...
Obviously I’m vegging these seeds probably for 4 weeks before signs appear but how often should I remove branches and leaves if I’m going for single colas? Same for the clones I take if I veg the clones for 20 days to get a good amount of roots and they start growing do you continue to remove all side branches as they appear or let them grow and remove all but last node before flip?
Seedlings are getting a bit crowded already here
Unfortunately no room to keep 90 mothers..They may just get too tall.
You need to get cuttings too. Obviously taking them from the tops means you won't get the single cola. So you need to veg them long enough to get the clones from the bottom and some phenos may hold up the works because they don't wanna branch. So they are gonna get too big and bushy IMO to run your single cola test properly. Plus root development won't be an accurate comparison to a future from clone run.
Monster cropping the clones isn't recommended because some strains just won't come back from it and you are trying to grow single colas too lol.
Ideally these from seed plants would be the ones kept as mothers, tops would be cut as clones and those would be flowered.
As far as pruning the bottoms when running a no veg SoG from clone I did that at 20 days after flip.
Jesus that’s a lot of stretchWhen I did no veg sog from clones they ended up 44 inches tall. So they can really stretch as single colas after flip. Leaving the lower branches longer slows that main node stretch a little.
I do clone straight to 12/12 average 3/4 oz per plant (strain dependent). I do 4 plants per ft sq. So my yield is similar to better, with consistent quality, looks and yield. Also faster flip times. From cut to flower in under 3 weeks.Appreciate your Input buddy but definitely not stubborn I just like to understand what makes someone’s input better. If someone says clones will be better, I’d like to hear experiences and how it’s better as I can’t change my system based on some opinion without understanding it myself
I’m considering the clone angle but atm I’m getting easy 2 oz per plant and each plant takes up 1 sqft of space.
I’m trying to find any evidence that clones can yield anywhere near as much as that with no luck so far. Max I’ve seen is 1 oz from rooted cut.