OldMedUser
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I'm only making the oil to be used in edibles so having some of it turned to CBN is a plus as CBN promotes sleep and pain relief. Heavier doses of oil are usually taken in the evening when a sleepy effect is desirable and any easing of pain is a bonus.So, you cook it for 45 minutes and thus convert to more CBD/CBN. I kinda
know what CBD is, but not CBN and there are a couple others too, if i recall. Anyhow
what you're going for is more of a medical, sedative effect than the euphoric high
from THC, right?
You won't see bubbles from bud. A lot of people decarb on an open cookie sheet in the oven and stink up the house. That stink is terpenes and other low boiling point compounds cooking off so you're losing medicine. The last time I did it in the oven was an oz of bud wrapped and sealed twice in tinfoil with a temp probe hooked to a multimeter to start my 45min once it reached 250 in the centre of the pot. Very low odour that a little over-toasted bread would have easily covered up.Something doesn't seem clear about decarbing, tho. You talk of temp of 250F, "until the
bubbles (of C02) stop", but I can't see the bubbles, because my product is raw bud.
And it's submerged under water, inside a mason jar, inside a bag,. No bubbles for me
to monitor. I have to decarb it that way to control the smell. I am obsessed about the
smell. It's part of why i'm trying to make a tincture in the first place, to eliminate the smell.
The main part of course, is my wife's coughing from smoking it.
The bubbles I see is on the oil in a beaker in the oven. I can see them thru the window of the oven when doing that. I just keep the temp probe beside the beaker to keep an eye on temps tho that little oven I got for the wife as a Xmas present 3 years ago keeps the temp pretty good. Very fine bubbles like from a glass of champagne and hard to see.
ISO is actually a superior product than ethanol for extracting with and it's toxicity is vastly overblown by people who really don't understand it all. Easier to get for a lot of people too tho you should look for NF - USP grade of 99%. I can get industrial grade ISO from the local farm supply but it cost the same as the NF grade from Costco and I'd have to purify it before using it.I see you do the QWISO, using isopropyl, but i kind of want to not use iso and instead
use ethanol in a QWET process. I just think food grade alcohol might be safer than iso is.
And then there's that process where you use iso for first wash, and then a second or even
third with ethanol to clear out the iso. I just can't do all that stuff. I wouldn't mind a bit
buying all the equipment, setting up some kind of kitchen corner lab, with vacuum pumps,
exraction units, etc., but again, it's the SMELLLLLLLLLLLL, i am trying to avoid.
Good instructions here.
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If you are making a tincture tho you would want to do a good decarb on the pot then soak it in ethanol. Burns like hell as you mentioned so you can evap off all the ethanol, no need to purge, then dissolve the oil in another oil like MCT or olive etc to put into a dropper bottle. Go easy at first so you can judge the potency so you don't 'green out' from too much. If you do green out a couple oz of regular 40% booze will mitigate the effects. Will still be stoned off your ass but the alcohol takes the edge off so you aren't freaking out. If you have EverClear then 1 oz will do.
For odourless decarb one of these would be just the ticket. They are in BC, Canada but should be sold all over the world. Cook your pot for the required time then allow to cool in the oven slowly before opening and your bud is ready to soak.
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For sure you could siphon it off or use a big syringe or turkey baster to pull it out. Same way home wine makers do when transferring from the primary distillation vessel.Then another thing you said was you have to pour off the settled mix out of the gallon
container, and it occurred to me you could siphon it out of there. Just a thought, doubtful
that i'd do it, unless i was too shaky to handle the container, which as you say, thankfully,
that you're not. So i'd pour too, so as not to leave anything in a siphon hose.
I'm not exactly sure as I don't buy pot or kief tho did get some CBD in veg oil that seems to help my back. Almost out so need to finish up this batch of oil and see how it works but I expect there's enough THC to have an effect. Still trying to find a good strain that has less than 1%THC and at least 15% CBD. I have some seeds a guy sent me from California that are supposed to be 20:1 but that isn't enough info to tell what's what with it. I have a bunch of high CBD pot saved up so once it's all made into oil I'll send a sample to a lab in Vancouver to get actual numbers to work with.I bought a gram of this kief as follows:
High End Farms
Diamond Dust Dry Sift Kief
Total Cannabinoids: 67.4%
Total Decarb THC 58.8%
THCA: 64.2%
CBDA: 0%
CBD: 0%
THC: 2.5%
I'm at a loss about those numbers, and the "Total Decarb THC 58.8%". Does that
mean I do not have to decarb it to extract it using QWET? And those numbers
seem to contradict, so can anybody make heads or tails of it, and does it need
decarb or not? What does that mean, "Total Decarb THC 58.8%"?
You could check with the company that makes that stuff on their website to see if they have any info but I doubt they decarb it for you. I'm pretty sure that 58.8% THC number is what you should have after a decarb but I'm not certain. From what little info I could find it's made for smoking or vaping so I would say it's not decarbed. Will likely turn into a blob I would think but maybe not. The last big batch of oil I made had 113g of dry sift in it but I did the decarb on the oil after extraction. Ended up with something like 120g of RSO with sift and pot combined. Many strains some being 4 or 5 years old.