MAYAN Prophecy .

ginjawarrior said:
have you not met 80% of the people out there do you really think they are "aware" enough to have a "shift" in consciousness?

me when i go out side i see a bunch of idiots who cant want for next episode of "dancing with the stars"
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Dude. Your blind. THE REASON THE SHIFT WILL HAPPEN. Is because of all of the rediculousness like everyone sitting in their houses, watching TV, barely knowing neighbors, not forming tight knit groups for the most part, having a bunch of loose "business relationships" and "acquaintances". THAT IS NOT HOW ANIMALS WORK. We are an organic animal. We can not keep living in this paper/machine world. It has to become more organic itself in order to survive. So these things HAVE TO HAPPEN. Mental borders have to be destroyed. And this time, it will be as a planet, not as a group or nation. An entire planet. THINK. With all the technology, this time WE ALL HAVE TO SHIFT TOGETHER.
 
RavenMochi said:
I would love to believe that all at once, the world would have an epiphany as to all the stupid, self destructive shit we do. But I don't see it. I really dont. I think that takes mind boggling amounts of simplification of complex matters. Are the Palestinian's going to magically stop caring that their homes are invaded? Are the Israeli's going to all of a sudden just stop caring about their heritage and the site of their most ancient fallen temple they desperately long to see rebuilt?! What about the Sudan? Are they going to free all the slaves, and give up killing?! Its not just humans either, contrary to popular belief, animals war to. Gorilla's jump and murder each other over territory, hell even ants go to war. Life is by its very nature forged in violence. To think that overnight all life will have a spiritual shift, while romantic, doesn't seem plausible to me. Not that I don't want to believe it, it sounds beautiful, but honestly I just can't swallow it.
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NOT ALL AT ONCE. OVER 50,000 years or more. It begins soon though. VERY VERY small steps have already been taken towards the shift. The invention of electricity is a BIG small step. It will get bigger though for certain.
 
Finshaggy said:
Dude. Your blind. THE REASON THE SHIFT WILL HAPPEN. Is because of all of the rediculousness like everyone sitting in their houses, watching TV, barely knowing neighbors, not forming tight knit groups for the most part, having a bunch of loose "business relationships" and "acquaintances". THAT IS NOT HOW ANIMALS WORK. We are an organic animal. We can not keep living in this paper/machine world. It has to become more organic itself in order to survive. So these things HAVE TO HAPPEN. Mental borders have to be destroyed. And this time, it will be as a planet, not as a group or nation. An entire planet. THINK. With all the technology, this time WE ALL HAVE TO SHIFT TOGETHER.
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22nd of dec 2012 we're not goona abandon our comps and run to the streets

unless they reverse smoking ban in pubs you have no hope for you dream

Finshaggy said:
NOT ALL AT ONCE. OVER 50,000 years or more. It begins soon though. VERY VERY small steps have already been taken towards the shift. The invention of electricity is a BIG small step. It will get bigger though for certain.
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so were already shifted if we taking steps already? or you saying that its gonna take 50000 years to realise this change? cause in last 50 years we done so much more for humanity than could ever been hoped for in whole of our evolution

a 50000 year change slowly starting after 2012 is hardly any sort of climax
 
Finshaggy said:
NOT ALL AT ONCE. OVER 50,000 years or more. It begins soon though. VERY VERY small steps have already been taken towards the shift. The invention of electricity is a BIG small step. It will get bigger though for certain.
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over 50,000 years? Then the date means absolutely nothing. It could be any random date pulled out of your ass, over a 50,000 year period?! Seriously, a telephone psychic could make a more meaningful general prediction than that. Over 50,000 years evolution, especially with the aid of science, could take any direction whatsoever. The date/time/prediction mean nothing, if thats the case. Seriously, I could say within 50,000 years some humans will have gills and I would have as high an accuracy rate as that prediction. Not being rude, but yea, thats...why did they even bother?!
 
ginjawarrior said:
22nd of dec 2012 we're not goona abandon our comps and run to the streets

unless they reverse smoking ban in pubs you have no hope for you dream


so were already shifted if we taking steps already? or you saying that its gonna take 50000 years to realise this change? cause in last 50 years we done so much more for humanity than could ever been hoped for in whole of our evolution

a 50000 year change slowly starting after 2012 is hardly any sort of climax
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Steps have already been taken. But it will be over the next 50,000(or more) That the world goes through the next age, and actually can see results of the change. More steps will be taken, more side effects will be a result and eventually all of it comes together to be the description of the new age.
 
RavenMochi said:
over 50,000 years? Then the date means absolutely nothing. It could be any random date pulled out of your ass, over a 50,000 year period?! Seriously, a telephone psychic could make a more meaningful general prediction than that. Over 50,000 years evolution, especially with the aid of science, could take any direction whatsoever. The date/time/prediction mean nothing, if thats the case. Seriously, I could say within 50,000 years some humans will have gills and I would have as high an accuracy rate as that prediction. Not being rude, but yea, thats...why did they even bother?!
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Exactly the date means nothing. It is like the end of a calendar year. Just because it is January 1st doesn't mean we see all of the inventions or games for 2012. Same for the ages, just because the age has shifted, does not mean we will automatically see everything that comes of it. It is just a year in sun terms. And age. The sun has gone around the Galaxy, or its arm of the galaxy or whatever.
 
I'M NOT PREDICTING. I AM STATING FACTS ABOUT CYCLES. Sorry you misinterpretted that as a prediction. I wasn't trying to make it sound like I was trying to predict. Of course it's vague, I'm describing an age.
 
Yea, still having a problem buying it. If anything it could be said to start in the 1700's when we started taking technology seriously again, but even that shits on the fact that the ancient romans and greeks were making use of complex gear systems, steam power, hydraulics, medicine, all of which wouldn't be equaled for at least 1000 years. I think its an ongoing thing in human development and has nothing to do whatsoever with these 'ages' they describe.
 
RavenMochi said:
Yea, still having a problem buying it. If anything it could be said to start in the 1700's when we started taking technology seriously again, but even that shits on the fact that the ancient romans and greeks were making use of complex gear systems, steam power, hydraulics, medicine, all of which wouldn't be equaled for at least 1000 years. I think its an ongoing thing in human development and has nothing to do whatsoever with these 'ages' they describe.
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...on the smaller scale I see growing up as going through different ages or epochs. Whether by pattern recognition on man's part, or the actual archetype itself just 'being', there's a worldwide system of 'rites'. Maybe the whole system has a system of rites. Just a thought :)
 
RavenMochi said:
Yea, still having a problem buying it. If anything it could be said to start in the 1700's when we started taking technology seriously again, but even that shits on the fact that the ancient romans and greeks were making use of complex gear systems, steam power, hydraulics, medicine, all of which wouldn't be equaled for at least 1000 years. I think its an ongoing thing in human development and has nothing to do whatsoever with these 'ages' they describe.
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All of that was just a build up to electricity, which was one of the SMALL steps. All the other stuff was nothing but a precursor to a precursor.
 
Finshaggy said:
All of that was just a build up to electricity, which was one of the SMALL steps. All the other stuff was nothing but a precursor to a precursor.
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Incorrect, the Baghdad Battery was the first known source of electricity and we nothing about its use. You have to remember the Libraries of Alexandira weren't just the technology of one culture. Many cultures we remember as being great traded good and knowledge there. So just because we have 101 bullshit theories, and act like there is no way they had any idea how to utilize it, we damn sure didn't see the antikythera mechanism coming either. So again, this assumption isn't correct.
 
The Romans didn't have steam power. Hero of Alexandria built his aeolipile spinny thing, but that wasn't (and couldn't be) adapted to powering anything. The engine isn't the only thing. What really kickstarted the industrial revolution was not only a steam engine design that made practical power (as first made by Thomas Lycomen at the start of the 18th century) but also a transmission, initially just an arrangement of pivots and levers to connect the engine to a pump for raising water. cn
 
RavenMochi said:
Incorrect, the Baghdad Battery was the first known source of electricity and we nothing about its use. You have to remember the Libraries of Alexandira weren't just the technology of one culture. Many cultures we remember as being great traded good and knowledge there. So just because we have 101 bullshit theories, and act like there is no way they had any idea how to utilize it, we damn sure didn't see the antikythera mechanism coming either. So again, this assumption isn't correct.
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We do know that they weren't using it as a battery, they didn't have any conductors. Look it up, it COULD have worked as a battery but they weren't even thinking like that when they made it.
 
cannabineer said:
The Romans didn't have steam power. Hero of Alexandria built his aeolipile spinny thing, but that wasn't (and couldn't be) adapted to powering anything. The engine isn't the only thing. What really kickstarted the industrial revolution was not only a steam engine design that made practical power (as first made by Thomas Lycomen at the start of the 18th century) but also a transmission, initially just an arrangement of pivots and levers to connect the engine to a pump for raising water. cn
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And some people believe that this was the beginning of the new age, some think it was somewhere around the turn of the 1800-1900. I don't.
 
cannabineer said:
The Romans didn't have steam power. Hero of Alexandria built his aeolipile spinny thing, but that wasn't (and couldn't be) adapted to powering anything. The engine isn't the only thing. What really kickstarted the industrial revolution was not only a steam engine design that made practical power (as first made by Thomas Lycomen at the start of the 18th century) but also a transmission, initially just an arrangement of pivots and levers to connect the engine to a pump for raising water. cn
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Look into hero and his work with the temples, then get back to me on that. Granted they didn't have an effective steam engine, but they were using steam as a force to animate automatons. I'm quite aware that the first actual 'steam engine' was seen as nothing more then a toy.

The reason it didn't go past this was necessity. Sad to say, it had to do with slaves. In the one part of the roman empire where they did not have abundant slaves is the only part of Rome they found an automated bread factory that was water powered.
 
Finshaggy said:
And some people believe that this was the beginning of the new age, some think it was somewhere around the turn of the 1800-1900. I don't.
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Actually the turn of the new age could be said to be over 2000 years ago. It wasn't until the 1800's that we started to catch up to them, and medically, it was probably even longer before we caught up, or more to the point, surpassed, the works of Galen.
 
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