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Primo2133

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Freedom & authoritarianism do not co-mingle. Don't fool yourself on the gun issue. Trump, just like Putin, would take away guns in a heartbeat if it would benefit Trump. Seriously, what makes anyone believe Trump would do otherwise? Who has he not thrown under the bus besides every person close to him and more than half of America? He is a malignant narcissist. That is exactly what they do.

He was pro-choice until he needed to be anti-abortion to get elected. He's the "anti-war" president that has dropped more munitions than any other recent president. He enjoys seeing Pence hunted & threatens "weak" Republiocans. He doesn't give a shit about you as a gun owner any more than he cares about Pence or Fox News or democracy or free speech. "Gun owner" doesn't make you special to Trump, you know, special as a "real" American. To him it makes you just any easy vote.

It's like the free speech issue, "Free speech" to Trump is where he can throw out baseless accusations, aka lies about people, but sue over unflattering stories. He sued a guy for writing Trump wasn't actually a billionaire, that his net worth was closer to $350 M. Trump lost that suit BTW.
Yeah .. Hillary was pro life before being pro choice. But you're right .. Trump has changed several stances to run republican. I'm sure his immigration stance changed also. I don't believe he would ever ban guns .. most democrats wouldn't either. So that's propaganda in my eyes. It's not that some of you believe Trump is awful .. it's that some of you believe we have a better alternative.
 

hanimmal

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Yeah .. Hillary was pro life before being pro choice. But you're right .. Trump has changed several stances to run republican. I'm sure his immigration stance changed also. I don't believe he would ever ban guns .. most democrats wouldn't either. So that's propaganda in my eyes. It's not that some of you believe Trump is awful .. it's that some of you believe we have a better alternative.
I call bullshit.
 

mysunnyboy

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I care about the future of America. I never though Trump was a good guy. He does and says a lot of stupid ass shit. I don't believe everything anyone says. That's why I watch new from all different sources.

I do care about my freedom to own guns. That's a huge one for me. I want more freedom, not less. I don't care what anybody decides to do with their own bodies. That's also a right that I think is important for everyone to have. Jobs are definitely important to me. And I love all races as long as everyone follows the rules to become a citizen legally. I actually love the diversity of America.

I never said to attack or kill anyone just because I don't agree. What happen on Wed was horrible, and I didn't support it. Another stupid thing Trump did and said. I did really like how Trump made everyone realize that China's been taking advantage of us. Even Biden stole a couple of his ideas. "Build Back Better", and "Buy American". You can't tell me he didn't get that idea and slogan from Trump.

Again. I don't worship the guy at all. Just liked some of his policies and handling of foreign policy. Plus I didn't have to worry about anyone wanting to take my gun rights away, lol.

Just because I don't agree with the far left doesn't make me a racist trumptard, but there's no convincing anyone in here of that.
Has any democratic president tried to take away your gun?
 

Primo2133

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I call bullshit.
Hillary is on record being against abortion. Her and Bill are also on record supporting immigration laws. So is Obama. Some ppl will still blame Reagan for the war on drugs .. I still do .. but they don't look into the strict prescribing guidelines passed under democrats regarding morphine derivatives. It has caused many terminal and chronically ill ppl to suffer needlessly. Trump has been no better but at least some of us can see hypocrisy.
 

Justin-case

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Hillary is on record being against abortion. Her and Bill are also on record supporting immigration laws. So is Obama. Some ppl will still blame Reagan for the war on drugs .. I still do .. but they don't look into the strict prescribing guidelines passed under democrats regarding morphine derivatives. It has caused many terminal and chronically ill ppl to suffer needlessly. Trump has been no better but at least some of us can see hypocrisy.
Who the fuck cares about the Clinton's, window licker?
 

hanimmal

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Hillary is on record being against abortion. Her and Bill are also on record supporting immigration laws. So is Obama. Some ppl will still blame Reagan for the war on drugs .. I still do .. but they don't look into the strict prescribing guidelines passed under democrats regarding morphine derivatives. It has caused many terminal and chronically ill ppl to suffer needlessly. Trump has been no better but at least some of us can see hypocrisy.
Shit I support immigration laws. Everyone does.

The only real problem is people getting brainwashed into thinking that people don't support immigration laws.

As for abortion it is such a complex issue that the sciencetically challenged get lost in the weeds and find their way out with pretending that Democrats are pro-baby killing. They are not. Nobody is pro-abortion.
 

Primo2133

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Has any democratic president tried to take away your gun?
Biden has said he's for much stricter gun laws so we'll see. Clinton did something back in the 90's that restricted ammo supply. Not sure the details but this is not the first time than ammo has been hard to get. It's been on democrats' minds for long time.
 

mysunnyboy

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Biden has said he's for much stricter gun laws so we'll see. Clinton did something back in the 90's that restricted ammo supply. Not sure the details but this is not the first time than ammo has been hard to get. It's been on democrats' minds for long time.
What’s wrong with tough gun laws? I don’t understand. I don’t want nutbags having guns.
 

Primo2133

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Shit I support immigration laws. Everyone does.

The only real problem is people getting brainwashed into thinking that people don't support immigration laws.

As for abortion it is such a complex issue that the sciencetically challenged get lost in the weeds and find their way out with pretending that Democrats are pro-baby killing. They are not. Nobody is pro-abortion.
You must have missed the pink hat parades. Those ppl think 3rd trimester is okay. I have heard celebs saying they were proud to have an abortion and some say they wished they had the chance. There are plenty of ppl that are pro abortion.
 

hanimmal

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You must have missed the pink hat parades. Those ppl think 3rd trimester is okay. I have heard celebs saying they were proud to have an abortion and some say they wished they had the chance. There are plenty of ppl that are pro abortion.
Bullshit.

You are brainwashed/radicalized if you think this is the case. Feel free to provide your evidence and I will be more than happy to look at it.

Abortion access is one thing. Being 'pro-abortion' is nonsense. Nobody is giving out punch cards for a free abortion or asking someone to knock them up so they can go get one.
 

Primo2133

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What’s wrong with tough gun laws? I don’t understand. I don’t want nutbags having guns.
We are talking about 2 different things. Tough gun laws or tougher background checks? Not the same thing. Ppl are having to wait weeks to be approved to purchase a firearm so not sure how to weed out the nuts. At the same time do you want me to be able to say a lie about you and prohibit your right to own one? I'm sure you don't but that's where we are headed.
 

mysunnyboy

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We are talking about 2 different things. Tough gun laws or tougher background checks? Not the same thing. Ppl are having to wait weeks to be approved to purchase a firearm so not sure how to weed out the nuts. At the same time do you want me to be able to say a lie about you and prohibit your right to own one? I'm sure you don't but that's where we are headed.
I love LOVE guns and am a democrat. I don’t have any problem with the laws. Nor do I foresee any.
 

TacoMac

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We are talking about 2 different things. Tough gun laws or tougher background checks? Not the same thing. Ppl are having to wait weeks to be approved to purchase a firearm so not sure how to weed out the nuts. At the same time do you want me to be able to say a lie about you and prohibit your right to own one? I'm sure you don't but that's where we are headed.
Registered 10 years ago.

Just started posting in politics.

Welcome new sock puppet!

What was the name of your account that was banned?
 

Primo2133

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Bullshit.

You are brainwashed/radicalized if you think this is the case. Feel free to provide your evidence and I will be more than happy to look at it.

Abortion access is one thing. Being 'pro-abortion' is nonsense. Nobody is giving out punch cards for a free abortion or asking someone to knock them up so they can go get one.
Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer both on record. Yeah .. these are not good examples but they felt confident enough to say it in public. Not during my lifetime have I've known a female that didn't have access. I don't believe it's nonsense. I think that's where we are as a civilization. There is an abundance of mean and vindictive ppl on both sides.
 

hanimmal

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Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer both on record. Yeah .. these are not good examples but they felt confident enough to say it in public.
They don't actually matter you said so yourself. People will and can say all kinds of crazy shit.

Do you actually think that anyone rational is 'pro-abortion'? Because I call bullshit on that.

Not during my lifetime have I've known a female that didn't have access.
Because it is a necessary medical procedure that is dangerous to not allow people to have access to a deeply personal and often necessary.

I don't believe it's nonsense. I think that's where we are as a civilization. There is an abundance of mean and vindictive ppl on both sides.
And I am pretty sure you have been brainwashed/radicalized because of this 'belief'.

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Primo2133

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Registered 10 years ago.

Just started posting in politics.

Welcome new sock puppet!

What was the name of your account that was banned?
Why would I have ever been banned? B/c I don't agree with you? Am not new .. but you just proved that. I haven't ever badgered another user or said anything that was inappropriate. There is a problem with ppl believing that the establishment is one entity. It's not 2
 

Offmymeds

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To be clear, I grew up in KY & TN. Guns were always around. I'd guess on every golf course in TN on a Saturday there are at least 30 guns on the course. I don't hate guns or gun owners. Trump & guns are just an example. I shoulda used Christianity instead.
 
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