Medical-2000W--sealed room-CO2-Ebb & Flo-PK,Mango,Papaya, Orange Crush Deisel

rzza

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which node did you top above? did you count the nodes or did you measure a certain height on each plant?
 

#1Raiderfan420

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i am excited as well, so that makes however many people are on this thread, cause they better be excited :P
LOL, cool we are on the same page.:mrgreen:

Im growing some pk and mango. Im doing an sog tho. I seen your other grows and they are A+.
Im stoked to see how the mango does under a screen
That is cool man, how do you like the mango? I love it at night, mellows me right out. I usually do a scrog with the screen, but because of the long veg time the screen is basically for support this round. I still did soem supercropping and a little topping. Thanks for the compliment on my last rounds Bro.

dam raider looking great in there !!!

thats soil/ hydro in a ebbaflow ??
What up Hulk :joint: That is Coco/perlite in the smart pots with the rockwool mini cubes in the trays. Ebb/Flow. I can't believe it took me so long to start flooding the trays instead of top water to waste. I mean it really makes it much easier.

which node did you top above? did you count the nodes or did you measure a certain height on each plant?
I actually topped late and no I didn't count nodes, becuase they were tall already. Teh pk however, I topped while revegging and they were small. I topped them above the third or fourth node. The only reason I topped a couple Papaya is that they were stretching too much and wanted to keep an even canopy. The mango and papaya grow identically so that tray is even, however the pk and ocd are not. The ocd is about 8-10 inches taller than the pk right now. In the past the pk is a late stretcher, so I am hoping they don't get any farther apart in heigth.
 

bender420

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Raider when I tried Ebb n Flow last with coco, I just kept adding more water and nutes every other day just like you and it was a breeze, I ran the rez like that for 6 weeks and the plants did amazing. No problems what so ever. I was running an organic line too and it was still fine, with H&G it really ought to be a breeze.

So tonight I fed the Shooting Powder to Casey for the first time. I mixed the shooting powder in half gallon luke warm RO, let it fizz then I topped it with RO.

I used 100mL of that mix per gallon. That would result in about 3/4 sachet for 25 gallons.

I adjusted the pH before adding the Shooting Powder to 5.7 and the resulting pH after the addition was 6.3. Hopefully my pH was in the right ball park, let me know if that sounds right. Just to confirm you don't adjust the pH after adding shooting powder?
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Raider when I tried Ebb n Flow last with coco, I just kept adding more water and nutes every other day just like you and it was a breeze, I ran the rez like that for 6 weeks and the plants did amazing. No problems what so ever. I was running an organic line too and it was still fine, with H&G it really ought to be a breeze.

So tonight I fed the Shooting Powder to Casey for the first time. I mixed the shooting powder in half gallon luke warm RO, let it fizz then I topped it with RO.

I used 100mL of that mix per gallon. That would result in about 3/4 sachet for 25 gallons.

I adjusted the pH before adding the Shooting Powder to 5.7 and the resulting pH after the addition was 6.3. Hopefully my pH was in the right ball park, let me know if that sounds right. Just to confirm you don't adjust the pH after adding shooting powder?
Yes you are correct, do not ph after adding the shooting powder. Mine usually ends up at 6.2-6.3 too. Thanks for the tip on the ebb/flow :)
 

Hulk Nugs

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nice stalks on those plants raider.

hmmm crazy i was wondering if you could do a soil or coco grow in a ebbaflow or wold all the coco or soil start ending up in your water res.

The way you have it setup if the coco ever did leave the smart pot it would just stay in the cubes. If you tried hydroton it would not kept the water as clean probably would end up seeing more dirt in your res.
 

quickrip

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New shit oh yeah. Im lovin it . I wish I had that much room in the shed. Very very well done raider.
 

rzza

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RZZA, here are some pics of the ones that I topped early.

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wow their beasts. so you and dragon do not count, whats your method? do you just measure the height youd like and pinch there?

the reason im beating this up so hard is because i went with uncle bens method of topping above the second node to get 4 main colas and im miserable as its almost harvest time and i have damn near the smallest yield ive ever experienced. i feal that topping above the second node is pointless after now seeing what it does. perhaps if your topping that low on a plant you should veg much longer? idk but im soooo mad that i went with UB topping technique.

when i did the topping i did however pinch one above the 6 or 7th node and it has a shit ton more bud on it then the others.... why the hell UB preaches this is beyond me but it sucks!

i love your setup and you may have influenced me to try enf next round.
 

bender420

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Yes you are correct, do not ph after adding the shooting powder. Mine usually ends up at 6.2-6.3 too. Thanks for the tip on the ebb/flow :)

Thanks for confirming bro, I wish I would have asked you before about what the pH ends up at, because you know I am really anal about getting shit right, so I was shitting bricks while feeding a solution at 6.3 pH.

You welcome, I would love to see how well just topping the res with nutes and water will work.
 

mr.smileyface

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"That is cool man, how do you like the mango? I love it at night, mellows me right out. I usually do a scrog with the screen, but because of the long veg time the screen is basically for support this round. I still did soem supercropping and a little topping. Thanks for the compliment on my last rounds Bro."
The mango is kills. Its out yields the pk any day. The buds get huge. Even the bottoms. I know you dont have bottoms so expect some chunky top buds.
This is my first time growing the mango. My buddie grew some and i took a clone. Its really branchy so i can see it doing well on a scrog. Im subbed.
 

BooMeR242

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again im late pullin up a chair but im here again raider. ladies lookin good in veg.

read thru ur detailed intro and was gonna ask about using c02 with ur portable AC.
does it have an intake and exhaust duct? like two splits or one single? i use an older single duct 10,000btu unit for my veg room only, and from wat i understand it exhanges air, (aroma and c02) from the room. just wanna help u keep ur precious c02 thats all.

and how are u liking the rockwool crutons? its funny ure rockin those cuz im just now seeing more and more growers use it. a buddy just introduced me to them for my scrog setup and i think i was just convinced to switch. cuz u def got ur shit dialed so i know its good shit if ure using it. haha. keep up the good shit.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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nice stalks on those plants raider.

hmmm crazy i was wondering if you could do a soil or coco grow in a ebbaflow or wold all the coco or soil start ending up in your water res.

The way you have it setup if the coco ever did leave the smart pot it would just stay in the cubes. If you tried hydroton it would not kept the water as clean probably would end up seeing more dirt in your res.
Thaks Hulk! I like the coco coir in the ef, the smart pots keep the coco in. No coco comes out, only roots.

New shit oh yeah. Im lovin it . I wish I had that much room in the shed. Very very well done raider.
Thanks Bro, your shit is dialed too man. very very nice set-up.

wow their beasts. so you and dragon do not count, whats your method? do you just measure the height youd like and pinch there?

the reason im beating this up so hard is because i went with uncle bens method of topping above the second node to get 4 main colas and im miserable as its almost harvest time and i have damn near the smallest yield ive ever experienced. i feal that topping above the second node is pointless after now seeing what it does. perhaps if your topping that low on a plant you should veg much longer? idk but im soooo mad that i went with UB topping technique.

when i did the topping i did however pinch one above the 6 or 7th node and it has a shit ton more bud on it then the others.... why the hell UB preaches this is beyond me but it sucks!

i love your setup and you may have influenced me to try enf next round.
You know man, I don't top if I don't have to. I topped my all my plants last round and the yeild was substatialy less than when I supercrop. I top only to control the verticle growth if needed now. I topped the pk, because they were re-vegging, but had to veg forever to get them going again. I think if you top at above the third node and expect a longer veg than you will be good to go. However, supercropping works much better IMHO.

Thanks for confirming bro, I wish I would have asked you before about what the pH ends up at, because you know I am really anal about getting shit right, so I was shitting bricks while feeding a solution at 6.3 pH.

You welcome, I would love to see how well just topping the res with nutes and water will work.
LOL, I did the same thing when I saw the ph climb, but read on the H&G site that it is normal and that is how the SP works. I think I will man. I just changed the water and the trays were clean, so just re-filled and added new nutes. I won't change again until after the top booster is added.


"That is cool man, how do you like the mango? I love it at night, mellows me right out. I usually do a scrog with the screen, but because of the long veg time the screen is basically for support this round. I still did soem supercropping and a little topping. Thanks for the compliment on my last rounds Bro."
The mango is kills. Its out yields the pk any day. The buds get huge. Even the bottoms. I know you dont have bottoms so expect some chunky top buds.
This is my first time growing the mango. My buddie grew some and i took a clone. Its really branchy so i can see it doing well on a scrog. Im subbed.

Yeah, I like the mango a lot too and it does have a nice yeild. I pulled as much as 4 oz's per plant from the mango and the most from pk was about 3 oz's, but averages 2.
again im late pullin up a chair but im here again raider. ladies lookin good in veg. I just love the pk, so I keep it going.

read thru ur detailed intro and was gonna ask about using c02 with ur portable AC.
does it have an intake and exhaust duct? like two splits or one single? i use an older single duct 10,000btu unit for my veg room only, and from wat i understand it exhanges air, (aroma and c02) from the room. just wanna help u keep ur precious c02 thats all.

and how are u liking the rockwool crutons? its funny ure rockin those cuz im just now seeing more and more growers use it. a buddy just introduced me to them for my scrog setup and i think i was just convinced to switch. cuz u def got ur shit dialed so i know its good shit if ure using it. haha. keep up the good shit.
Yea, my ac exhausts so I use a shit load of co2. I change the 20 lb every 5 or 6 days. I was thinking of taking the back off the damn thing and trying to vent the intake. As for the cubes, the only issue is the humididty because they hold so much water. I was thinking of running the cubes in the smart pots and silicate rock in the trays. I don't want to use the hydroton because it turns everything red, but it might be an option too. I just backed off my flooding to every other day to let them dry out a bit.
 

bterz

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LOL..Raider, glad to see we both found something that works for us....Your girls are absolutely stunning!

Why the COCO and the rockwool I must ask?
Have you considered running 8" cubes instead of coco in smart pots? Whatever yo're doing, its working!!

Here is a 4" cube in a 5 gallon nursery pot.

Here is a girl after a 20 day veg and 12 day stretch. I'm really loving the Croutons...MESS FREE and SUPER EASY..

I switched my lineup to GH 3 part, too.

Keep up the good work Raider you're killin it!
 

#1Raiderfan420

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LOL..Raider, glad to see we both found something that works for us....Your girls are absolutely stunning!

Why the COCO and the rockwool I must ask?
Have you considered running 8" cubes instead of coco in smart pots? Whatever yo're doing, its working!!

Here is a 4" cube in a 5 gallon nursery pot.

Here is a girl after a 20 day veg and 12 day stretch. I'm really loving the Croutons...MESS FREE and SUPER EASY..

I switched my lineup to GH 3 part, too.

Keep up the good work Raider you're killin it!
lol, I was waiting for that question. I started with coco and was thinking of using coco chips in the trays, but didn't want the mess. Next round I will either do coco in smart pots and silicate rock or straight rw with the coutons in the trays. My issue is how to move a clone from the aero cloner to rockwool.
 

bterz

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Hey bud - Aero cloning is great and all, but ive been getting cuts to root in 7 days using the good ol hassle free RW method --

Also,they make plugs that are slit down the middle - as soon as you get the clone to start spitting roots, you can put it in a plug and wrap it around the roots gently.

Keep up the great work man.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Hey bud - Aero cloning is great and all, but ive been getting cuts to root in 7 days using the good ol hassle free RW method --

Also,they make plugs that are slit down the middle - as soon as you get the clone to start spitting roots, you can put it in a plug and wrap it around the roots gently.

Keep up the great work man.
ips bud.
I have been trying straight coco and have roots in 10 days, but I just bought this new aero cloner, so I feel like I need to use it. I have seen those plugs witht he split, but haven't really checkd them out. I also though of using croutons in basket than plug the basket into the cubes. Thanks for the the tips Bro.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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So it is day 8 of flower and I can believe how much they are stretching, the mango and papaya is 4' tall and the ocs is 3'. The pk is about 2'6", so I have one tray that is very un-even. I am not sure if it is the CO2, but the plants seem able to get closer to the lights without showing any signs of bleeching. It will be interesting to see how the stretch ends up. Here are a few pics of what the ladies are looking like at day 7.

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