Meet the new boss (Trump) same as the old boss (Obama). .

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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tryingtogrow89 said:
They both fucked up healthcare more than it already was = the same.
I work in the healthcare field, i would know.
I dont know how Obama or Trump treat women. I dont know them personally, policy-wise though they seem the same to me.
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How many Jews were murdered in the holocaust
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
You're kicking a hornet's nest. People really hate to see evidence that contradicts their carefully constructed delusions.
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Is that how you feel when I rip apart one of your "clever rants"? I am sorry you got hurt but it is better that you realize what a buffoon you are before others make you realize it in some not as nice ways. You never know when that might happen.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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tryingtogrow89 said:
They both fucked up healthcare more than it already was = the same.
I work in the healthcare field, i would know.
I dont know how Obama or Trump treat women. I dont know them personally, policy-wise though they seem the same to me.
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My wife works in the health care field as well. Her and I would tend to disagree with you greatly.
Facts would help you better when making ignorant comments.

EMPLOYER MANDATE- different

PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS- different
ACA- prohibits insurers from denying coverage or charging higher rates to people with pre-existing conditions.
Trump plan- Pre-existing conditions are still protected under the BCRA, but states may be able to redefine essential benefits. In effect consumers are not nearly as protected as under the ACA.

ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS- different
ACA- All major medical policies sold today must cover 10 categories of essential health benefits.
Trump plan- states could apply for a waiver that allows them to define essential health benefits.

AGE RATING-different
ACA- Obamacare capped the age rating to 3:1, meaning insurers can’t charge older enrollees more than 3x what they charge younger enrollees.

Trump plan- The age rating goes to 5:1 under the Trumptard

MEDICAID-different
ACA- Medicaid was expanded under the ACA in many states. Current state spending is matched dollar for dollar by the federal government.

Trump plan- Medicaid expansion will end by 2024 under the Trumpet. Also, states can choose from different funding options going forward: per- capita caps or block grants.

I could go on , but does these policies sound the fucking same to you ? If so you are rather ignorant or very very stupid.
As far as treating women....well one wants to grab them by the fucking pussy and the other has never said anything so damn disrespectful.

The real question now...how stupid are you ?
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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londonfog said:
My wife works in the health care field as well. Her and I would tend to disagree with you greatly.
Facts would help you better when making ignorant comments.

EMPLOYER MANDATE- different

PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS- different
ACA- prohibits insurers from denying coverage or charging higher rates to people with pre-existing conditions.
Trump plan- Pre-existing conditions are still protected under the BCRA, but states may be able to redefine essential benefits. In effect consumers are not nearly as protected as under the ACA.

ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS- different
ACA- All major medical policies sold today must cover 10 categories of essential health benefits.
Trump plan- states could apply for a waiver that allows them to define essential health benefits.

AGE RATING-different
ACA- Obamacare capped the age rating to 3:1, meaning insurers can’t charge older enrollees more than 3x what they charge younger enrollees.

Trump plan- The age rating goes to 5:1 under the Trumptard

MEDICAID-different
ACA- Medicaid was expanded under the ACA in many states. Current state spending is matched dollar for dollar by the federal government.

Trump plan- Medicaid expansion will end by 2024 under the Trumpet. Also, states can choose from different funding options going forward: per- capita caps or block grants.

I could go on , but does these policies sound the fucking same to you ? If so you are rather ignorant or very very stupid.
As far as treating women....well one wants to grab them by the fucking pussy and the other has never said anything so damn disrespectful.

The real question now...how stupid are you ?
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Blah blah blah.
His form of government involvment doesnt suit your idea of government involvement.
That's all I read.
 
tryingtogrow89

tryingtogrow89

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londonfog said:
which only means you can't comprehend what you are reading.
Trump and Obama are not the same.
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I understand that government is your only answer to everything.
I myself know that government causes nothing but problems.
Trump and Obama are buddies.
You fall for the facade.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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tryingtogrow89 said:
I understand that government is your only answer to everything.
I myself know that government causes nothing but problems.
Trump and Obama are buddies.
You fall for the facade.
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Nope government is not my answer to everything, but it helps to have a government that helps ALL the people and not just the rich.
I see now any conversation I have with you would be meaningless. To think Obama and Trump are the same is crazy talk.
Like saying you and I are the same...we are must certainly not
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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tryingtogrow89 said:
They both fucked up healthcare more than it already was = the same.
I work in the healthcare field, i would know.
I dont know how Obama or Trump treat women. I dont know them personally, policy-wise though they seem the same to me.
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You work "in the healthcare field"? What department/sector?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Unclebaldrick said:
Is that how you feel when I rip apart one of your "clever rants"? I am sorry you got hurt but it is better that you realize what a buffoon you are before others make you realize it in some not as nice ways. You never know when that might happen.
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What exactly is this anyway but naked evidence free self adulation?

You sound so high school these days.

Thanks for walking right up and proving my point.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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tryingtogrow89 said:
Blah blah blah.
His form of government involvment doesnt suit your idea of government involvement.
That's all I read.
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Then maybe you should repeat the first grade and actually learn to read this time.

Then try something truly difficult for Trumpers; critical thinking.

Your assumption that government is an outside entity not obligated to help the people it would govern is fundamentally flawed and serves as cover for undertaxing the oligarch class- a member of which you definitely are not.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Then maybe you should repeat the first grade and actually learn to read this time.

Then try something truly difficult for Trumpers; critical thinking.

Your assumption that government is an outside entity not obligated to help the people it would govern is fundamentally flawed and serves as cover for undertaxing the oligarch class- a member of which you definitely are not.
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when did he say he assumed that?
 
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