homebrewer
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For container gardening I wouldn't switch from a liquid food to a dry food either.
Mega Crop vs Dyna-Gro comparison grow
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For container gardening I wouldn't switch from a liquid food to a dry food either.
I'm curious what additives you run or your favorite additives with Dyna Gro?
homebrewer
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I've always liked floralicious plus. I also like a little potassium sulfate during flower for some sturdier plants.
I've been an advocate of floralicious plus for a while.Have always had a noticeable difference in finished product with it.A more pronounced smell and flavor.
Some of the best smoke ever for me was done with just Floranova bloom with the floralicious plus.Ran just that for quite a while.
Have you used or do you know of any other products like the floralicious plus that work as well?
homebrewer
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I used to use Liquid karma but it was a bit messy for hydro and I never saw much benefit in containers. FLP has worked well in both.
I've always wanted to try H&G's Algen Extract. Maybe one of these days.
I'd also be interested in similar humic/fulvic/sea kelp type products.
homebrewer
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Day 22 today...
Things are moving right along. I'd describe the health of the plants as perfect. I'm feeding around 1.1 EC and growth has been as expected, though I've had to thin the branches more than I usually have to because of the higher dose of N in this formula. The pH looks like it wants to 'start' at around 6.4 which means an initial adjustment is required for fresh reservoirs. After a few days the pH continues to rise from the adjusted 5.6 to 6.5 so I'm still getting away with about one pH adjustment per week which is nice. I basically never have to touch the pH of a DynaGro reservoir but that's more of a luxury than something to expect out of other plant foods.
So I'm happy with things so far. I may need to add another layer of support as these plants are getting pretty tall. This strain fills in pretty well so there should be some nice pictures coming in the next month. Stay tuned!
DynaGro day 22...
Not nearly as leafy and branchy as the MC plants above which makes maintenance requirements a bit lower as compared to MC. The tray below went on to yield 28 ounces so it should be interesting to see how the bigger MC plants do.
Things are moving right along. I'd describe the health of the plants as perfect. I'm feeding around 1.1 EC and growth has been as expected, though I've had to thin the branches more than I usually have to because of the higher dose of N in this formula. The pH looks like it wants to 'start' at around 6.4 which means an initial adjustment is required for fresh reservoirs. After a few days the pH continues to rise from the adjusted 5.6 to 6.5 so I'm still getting away with about one pH adjustment per week which is nice. I basically never have to touch the pH of a DynaGro reservoir but that's more of a luxury than something to expect out of other plant foods.
So I'm happy with things so far. I may need to add another layer of support as these plants are getting pretty tall. This strain fills in pretty well so there should be some nice pictures coming in the next month. Stay tuned!
DynaGro day 22...
Not nearly as leafy and branchy as the MC plants above which makes maintenance requirements a bit lower as compared to MC. The tray below went on to yield 28 ounces so it should be interesting to see how the bigger MC plants do.
swedsteven
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Mc plant look less stretchy its crayzy how they look different i was not expecting that .
You did not use any additive with mc ?
-next round im trying just mc and epsom to see the difference then adding mkp boost ,karma ,sweet and calmag.
You did not use any additive with mc ?
-next round im trying just mc and epsom to see the difference then adding mkp boost ,karma ,sweet and calmag.
homebrewer
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Nope, just the dry powder food.
iShatterBladderz
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@homebrewer I am getting ready to start my first grow, 4 plants of dedoverde haze from Humboldt seed organization, in 3 gal smart pots with 70 coco/30 perlite, under a 480w Quantum Board light w/lm301H & CREE 660nm diodes. I will be feeding using drain to waste method.
I have been back and forth on whether I should use Dynagro or Biobizz. My main thing here is I want whichever Nute is going to help me get as close to top shelf quality as possible and be easy to correct any mistakes. My main two questions for you, and I would PM this to you but for whatever reason I cant figure out how to, maybe because i created this profile just to message you, but would you recommend DG over Biobizz? If I do go Biobizz, based on how I’m growing, what percentage of the recommended dosage should i feed? Ive heard to feed 75 percent potency and to overlap pro-foliage and bloom the first 3-4 weeks of flower.
I have been back and forth on whether I should use Dynagro or Biobizz. My main thing here is I want whichever Nute is going to help me get as close to top shelf quality as possible and be easy to correct any mistakes. My main two questions for you, and I would PM this to you but for whatever reason I cant figure out how to, maybe because i created this profile just to message you, but would you recommend DG over Biobizz? If I do go Biobizz, based on how I’m growing, what percentage of the recommended dosage should i feed? Ive heard to feed 75 percent potency and to overlap pro-foliage and bloom the first 3-4 weeks of flower.
homebrewer
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I don't think the nutrients are going to be your limiting factor when it comes to producing quality. If you want a stupid simple way to grow, pick up some happy frog potting soil and go with DG's foliage pro at like 1/2 tsp/gal from start to finish. That being said, my vote goes to DG regardless of how you're growing. If you go with Biobizz, you're going to have to get a ppm/EC meter to determine how potent their bottles are. I can't blindly tell you to halve their recommended dose even though that's generally good advice.
iShatterBladderz
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I’m sorry, that was a typo on my part. What I meant to ask what if I went with DG, what are the recommended dosages I should follow? I seen you post earlier that the dosages on the schedule were a bit higher than you would recommend. I was going to just run the schedule how they recommend it, But if it’s too strong I’ll dilute it down a bit. Thanks!
homebrewer
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I think the directions on the foliage pro bottle say 1/2 tsp/gal. I think that's good for flowering, maybe halve that for veg? And just run that all the way through.
ISK
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I live in Canada and have not seen Dyna-gro available in any of our local grow-op stores but is available online
dakilla187
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I love megacrop, been using it for 2 years now...One thing is this fert catches any humidity in the air if not tightly sealed and liquifies....Then I end up using a concentrataed liquid if I get lazy and forget my jug is left open.....
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homebrewer
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Mine is storing very well in a Tupperware container.
GrowLightGuy
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I was a big fan of MC, until they came out with V2 that contains their chunky pieces of cal-mag because people were complaining about cal-mag deficiencies in the original formula. I found V2 to have super low or super high ppm readings because of the inconsistency of random chunks of cal-mag mixed in with the fine powder. Before i'd just add a little cal-mag with dissolved MC and my plants couldn't have been happier. V2 caused me nothing but cal-mag deficiencies because of the inconsistency. Go figure.
homebrewer
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Interesting. Growers across the board complain about 'cal/mag' issues with many different plant foods which to me is laughable. One cannot have both a calcium and magnesium issue simultaneously (unless both elements are missing from the formula) because these elements have an antagonistic relationship. If both elements are present then it is either one element or the other that is the 'issue'.
It's no secret that somewhere in the 1:3 to 1:4 range of magnesium-to-calcium is ideal and many companies not only supply both elements but also do so in the correct ratio, yet idiot growers continue to think that supplementing calmag is 'needed'.
IMO, megacrop has always been a complete food that could be used with success as a standalone food. My issue with them is the high amount of N in their formula when used in hydro. Update coming..
/rant
Nizza
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hey homebrewer the journal is looking good as always keep it up man!
I miss DG. Doing bio-bizz for now, the whole lineup even all the extras.. No measuring stuff just a little of this and that
one thing I found with dyna gro nutes is they can crystal up.. Didn't bother me at all cause the nutes are great.
once and a while put I light under the bottle and look into the bottle if its a clear solution, or pour the whole thing into a clear bottle. If shaking it vigorously doesn't de-crystal the solution what I did was take the amount of solution and mix it 1:1 with warm water to dissolve the crystals. Now I kept some old bottles if it doesnt fit back into one, and write 1/2 strength on it.
It bothered me to see crystals cause I didnt know which nutrients would do that, and in a liquid form it might possibly adding too much or too little of certain nutes (this is pure bro science) lol, but I thought it helped.
The particular one I had to do this with was the Pro-Tekt. Something about the silica over time in the bottle made it condense into a crystal. This is the same stuff that you have to add first or dilute before adding to your nutrient solution
I miss DG. Doing bio-bizz for now, the whole lineup even all the extras.. No measuring stuff just a little of this and that
one thing I found with dyna gro nutes is they can crystal up.. Didn't bother me at all cause the nutes are great.
once and a while put I light under the bottle and look into the bottle if its a clear solution, or pour the whole thing into a clear bottle. If shaking it vigorously doesn't de-crystal the solution what I did was take the amount of solution and mix it 1:1 with warm water to dissolve the crystals. Now I kept some old bottles if it doesnt fit back into one, and write 1/2 strength on it.
It bothered me to see crystals cause I didnt know which nutrients would do that, and in a liquid form it might possibly adding too much or too little of certain nutes (this is pure bro science) lol, but I thought it helped.
The particular one I had to do this with was the Pro-Tekt. Something about the silica over time in the bottle made it condense into a crystal. This is the same stuff that you have to add first or dilute before adding to your nutrient solution
homebrewer
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Day 33 today...
There isn't much to report here. The plants are cruising along as expect and megacrop has been pretty consistent in regards to it's use (dissolving, mixing, pH-ing, plant performance, etc.). My complaint here is that these plants are a darker shade of green than I'm used to and I have a feeling that the excessive branching is going to negatively affect yield. I look at it this way: 100 bud sites can yield me a pound or 300 bud sites can yield the exact same amount in the form of smaller, airier buds. Now I'm not one that really cares about bud density as I love me some airy, foxtailing sativa flowers, but bud structure is what I'm really talking about here. Maybe it's too early to cast any predictions but even as recently as day 29 I was thinning out these plants as I could just tell that some of the inner bud sites would develop into larfy garbage. So we'll see how this plays out. I've done the best job that I can here.
Resin shot here:
DynaGro Resin shot below....
DynaGro tray (Possibly day 35) below. It's hard to compare bud size because of the different lighting situations but that doesn't really matter at the moment. What I do notice is that there aren't nearly as many bud sites on the DG plants, partly due to size, but mostly due to the lower N content of DG bloom which results in more desirable growth and branching. The fix with MC would be to replace some of your base EC with a PK booster (so maybe 80% base, 20% booster).
There isn't much to report here. The plants are cruising along as expect and megacrop has been pretty consistent in regards to it's use (dissolving, mixing, pH-ing, plant performance, etc.). My complaint here is that these plants are a darker shade of green than I'm used to and I have a feeling that the excessive branching is going to negatively affect yield. I look at it this way: 100 bud sites can yield me a pound or 300 bud sites can yield the exact same amount in the form of smaller, airier buds. Now I'm not one that really cares about bud density as I love me some airy, foxtailing sativa flowers, but bud structure is what I'm really talking about here. Maybe it's too early to cast any predictions but even as recently as day 29 I was thinning out these plants as I could just tell that some of the inner bud sites would develop into larfy garbage. So we'll see how this plays out. I've done the best job that I can here.
Resin shot here:
DynaGro Resin shot below....
DynaGro tray (Possibly day 35) below. It's hard to compare bud size because of the different lighting situations but that doesn't really matter at the moment. What I do notice is that there aren't nearly as many bud sites on the DG plants, partly due to size, but mostly due to the lower N content of DG bloom which results in more desirable growth and branching. The fix with MC would be to replace some of your base EC with a PK booster (so maybe 80% base, 20% booster).
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