Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year

hic

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hey kbmed nice to see ya around. I hope like hell you are with us on 22nd!. What you growing outside this year the GWS?.
 

Mary I Wanna

Active Member
dam Mary if I ever need an accountant or some shit? I hope you work in an office cause you don't need to be doing that hard labor shit with a mind like that. I like your ideas and opinions but I am looking to spend the money. Gotta be at least 14 by 26, atleast.
Secuirity is no issue.. remember I am retired. I would like metal, but then again if I use wood I will be halfway to the facility. After harvest I could remove the panels, add on and finish to suite my indoor playground?
hic, I tried the office thing once actually, it's not for me.. I hate sitting on my ass all day staring at a computer, and im not a big fan of staying indoors all day either.. I'd rather work my ass off all day, it makes time go faster.. I was actually an Ironworker/Industrail Millwright for almost 10 years.. Im taking it easy now and doing residental construction, mainly roofing and siding.. After seeing what the GreenHouse kits are going for though, I might jump in that game and start building custom GH's...

I live in mid michigan and last year I didnt plant until may 15-20th and still caught frost..tho it looks like we will have some good weather for the most part frost is still an issue and I dont plan to plant until the night temps are over 55 constantly..

plus my plants that went out last year were about 1-1.5ft tall and were just huge by august...like 10-15ft I want somthing about 6ftx5ft just a decent bush..I'l prolly throw my girls out around may 20th I have my mothers getting ready tho they are new moms and still quite small, and at the same time I need 24 new clones inside for my next round I'm in my 5th week..

mary- didnt see you were growing ghsc gear until i looked back a few pages.. my great white from them has been my go to strain for over a year now, It's the strongest plant I have and produces every single time I went thru 18 beans of the 20 I bought for last years od grow, and chose the bushiest/biggest plant and its paid off, theres been a lot of ppl bashing ghs but their gear is legit and around here theres even a fake great white rolling around, lol , funny shit but everyone loves the GWS round here, I just like things that have more diesel taste.. sour d, og, chemdawg, all those are what im after..
KB,
My main concern is how big my plants are gonna get.. I have a couple ideas Im gonna try this year, I think i can tie them down and have them grow across the ground rather then straight up.. I also have an idea where Im not gonna have to worry about how big they get.. If it works I'll deff share the info with you guys for next year... I may still catch a light frost, but the Super Critical plants im gonna put out are big enough to handle it.. If they do get stunted a little bit I guess it will help me with my size concerns.. They have plenty of time to snap out of it.. This is my 2nd year using GHSC, I have a buddy who swears by them.. There orders always arive when they are suppose to, and every bean I've ever gotten from them has sprouted and been a female.. I'm having a problem with their Kalshanakov strain this year, two of the four I sprouted are mutants.. One is triple jointed and the other looks like it might be duck footed.. Im not sure if im gonna grow the strain out or not. Im thinking about pulling them and starting something new to put out a little later. Im not sure about my AMS x Grape Ape plants either, Im scared of what they are gonna yeild and when they are gonna finish. The AMS didnt finish untill Oct. 22nd last year and the yeilds were shit. My buddy has some purple kush and super lemon haze clones rooting, I might do some trading with him and try that kush out, as a back up purple strain, I love purple weed... I could always do some cross breeding with it too, Im sure im gonna have some male plants of the purple ams... I've heard alot about the diesel strains but haven't had the pleasure of trying one yet.. It's on my list of strains I wanna toke, there just dont seem to be any going around here...
 

hic

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Mary - I still would think about holding off on the planting. It is not so much the top of the plant that gets hurt. The roots can get destroyed easy enough with the outdoor conditiond yet to come before the middle of may. Is there anyway to keep your plants outside but yet in a small greenhouse box? till may. I see you are a roofer, I was one of the fastest in my area. Have not been on a roof to work in about almost 4 years. You ever run into a big job and need exp let me now - I get bored retired

One thing that slipped my mind if I use wood for the greenhouse... ha ha ha the rotten wood from humidity - Finally wood is scatched off the list!.
 

hic

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All right you guys can kill this topic of hics greenhouse right now if I can get these answers.

At Menards in the roofing section. There are clear, green , brown etc. 12 foot panels. I want to use the clear. The problem is I went there and it is advertised as UV protection treated. If you guys go to menards you will know exactly what I am talking about. The material they used to make the panels is even soft!.

My question if I use those panels for my GH will it block to much light? Will it block so much light they will stretch like hell? Will those panels allow for a good compact bud to form?

I want only the facts please no opinions are desired for this one. The material is made of that polycarba something
 

Green Dave

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The UV protection is for the Polycarbant so the plastics dont break down
If it wasnt UV protected it will yellow and get brittle , You should be good with that
 

hic

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If I did not already give ya the rep I would have done it there - thanks GD I was not quit sure aout all that. I know that the panels will let alot of the light in. I just was not sure how much of that light would have been "usuable" by the plant. I was weary when I read about it being uv protected... but the shit is just so perfect for me and I want to use it. and most likely will unless I get bad a report on the shit from a good grower.

thanks cmt too for that link.
 

hammer6913

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Mary - I still would think about holding off on the planting. It is not so much the top of the plant that gets hurt. The roots can get destroyed easy enough with the outdoor conditiond yet to come before the middle of may. Is there anyway to keep your plants outside but yet in a small greenhouse box? till may. I see you are a roofer, I was one of the fastest in my area. Have not been on a roof to work in about almost 4 years. You ever run into a big job and need exp let me now - I get bored retired

One thing that slipped my mind if I use wood for the greenhouse... ha ha ha the rotten wood from humidity - Finally wood is scatched off the list!.
sucks bein retired. i worked on roofs for 15 yrs too. used to workin... pressure treated wood wont rot, also cedar poles may be cheapr. sure u probly know someone over there with cedar on their prop.
 

Mary I Wanna

Active Member
hic,
Im not gonna go straight in the ground.. I have them in buckets right now.. before they go out im gonna wrap the buckets with burlap and sit them down inside of another bucket filled with straw, to keep the roots warm... It's alot easier for me to stash buckets around the property then it would be to stash a green house or box.. If it's gonna get to cold at night I can always bring them inside also.. Im gonna start planting my veggy garden next week, I always put my root veggies out the middle of april.. Im more worried about rain then anything...

http://www.backyardcity.com/greenhouses/kits/polycarbonate.htm

That should answer your question about the uv treated poly... Like GD said it's mainly there to protect the plastic... All of the better GH's use the treated poly though... How much are those panels running at menards.?
Im pretty quick with a nail gun myself.. I have two younger kids that lay the shingles while I nail, I can keep those boys running all day.. On a walkable roof we can put down almost two square an hour if I stay after them... Last week I did a 22sq 2 story house in 4 1/2 days with 4 guys and myself.. Tear off, clean up and all... I have a huge bid turned in on a 63sq church roof, If I get it im actually gonna need some help.. If you wanna come out of retirment and help, I'd make it worth your time.. It's always nice to have good help who know what they are doing...
 

puffntuff

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The record I got is 17sq in 5hrs. 1story ranch walker. My cousin and I layed 17sq of dimensionals starting at 10am left at3pm. I was alittle cooked after that. But nothing a trip to the Asian parlor didn't fix!!
 

Green Dave

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Puff you had better have goten a "happy ending" after that LOLke care when attaching
hic ta most Polycarb is brittle and will crack if you dont drill holes first and dont over tighten
 

Mary I Wanna

Active Member
Puff you had better have goten a "happy ending" after that LOLke care when attaching
hic ta most Polycarb is brittle and will crack if you dont drill holes first and dont over tighten
I was just looking up the same thing GD, I'd be affraid of the poly expanding and contracting with diff temps.. Im not even sure You'd want to mount it solid, because if it does expand or contract it will crack.. I've ran into that problem more then once with vinyl.. I think I'd make a frame for the panels out of treated wood, then take a router and cut a groove in the frame for the poly to sit in. Then use window brads to hold the poly in the panel, and screw the panel to your frame..
 

hic

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well I will tell ya what. there is damn good money in roofing. It is a young mans game. You wanna lay the shit outta of em for a few years and walk away. The lifers I know that are roofers and were there bodies are broken. Make that money and move on cause that roofing is fun and good work but it will make it so you cannot walk correctly. I can tell you one thing I am so happy I went crazy cause another 10 years of roofing... would have left my body all fucked up. I did it everyday for 7 years took a break did it for 1.5 more years. 8.5 Years I roofed and I will never get my back to the way it was before I began.

I have not been on a roof in a while but sometimes my back feels like I just fell off a roof. Make that money boys and build a greenhouse, do not play the roofing game long unless all you do is sit on your ass and play on the phone all day.

On another note I may open a newaygo compassion club soon. I am also researching that shit. very busy time in my life.
 

hammer6913

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well I will tell ya what. there is damn good money in roofing. It is a young mans game. You wanna lay the shit outta of em for a few years and walk away. The lifers I know that are roofers and were there bodies are broken. Make that money and move on cause that roofing is fun and good work but it will make it so you cannot walk correctly. I can tell you one thing I am so happy I went crazy cause another 10 years of roofing... would have left my body all fucked up. I did it everyday for 7 years took a break did it for 1.5 more years. 8.5 Years I roofed and I will never get my back to the way it was before I began.

I have not been on a roof in a while but sometimes my back feels like I just fell off a roof. Make that money boys and build a greenhouse, do not play the roofing game long unless all you do is sit on your ass and play on the phone all day.

On another note I may open a newaygo compassion club soon. I am also researching that shit. very busy time in my life.
my body is trashed and i did commercial roofs plus i was on a seizmic crew for a while after the army when i was in my prime. a lifetime ago. good luck with the compassion club. there are 2 in baldwin now. ill sign up.
 

Mary I Wanna

Active Member
well I will tell ya what. there is damn good money in roofing. It is a young mans game. You wanna lay the shit outta of em for a few years and walk away. The lifers I know that are roofers and were there bodies are broken. Make that money and move on cause that roofing is fun and good work but it will make it so you cannot walk correctly. I can tell you one thing I am so happy I went crazy cause another 10 years of roofing... would have left my body all fucked up. I did it everyday for 7 years took a break did it for 1.5 more years. 8.5 Years I roofed and I will never get my back to the way it was before I began.

I have not been on a roof in a while but sometimes my back feels like I just fell off a roof. Make that money boys and build a greenhouse, do not play the roofing game long unless all you do is sit on your ass and play on the phone all day.

On another note I may open a newaygo compassion club soon. I am also researching that shit. very busy time in my life.

I hear you loud and clear on that hic... My body has already taken a beating.. My knees, my shoulders, and my back aint what they once use to be.. When I was an Ironworker I had about 90lbs of saftey gear, tools, and bolts strapped to me for 12 sometimes 14 hours a day... It will deff make a man out of anyone who does it for any amount of time... After 10 years of doing that roofing is a walk in the park, but I dont wanna be doing this shit in another 10 years.. Im like you I wanna start a CO-OP and help people grow my favorite plant all day every day...
 

Sailor Jerry

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Hey guys, Im a guerilla grower from the UP. Last year I had crappy results because my strains (Nirvana's white rhino and some nirvanna freebies) didnt have enough time to flower before the frost killed them. According to the 2011 farmers almanac, the final frost date for the UP is around Oct 10.

Im looking for some suggestions for some strains to try this summer. I'd like to get something that is regularly flowering that will finish before the frost hits. Im going to check out some auto's because I know they'll finish but I also like the larger yeild from traditional plants.

do any of you seasoned veterans have any ideas or suggestions to make my 2011 year a success?
 

puffntuff

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There's numerous plants you can run with. Indica Dom is what your gonna be looking for. Look for an early finisher. I was gonna try a dr greenthumbs Iranian mix because it should finish late sept.
 

Green Dave

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IR13 3.jpgIranianG13.jpgThat was my recamendation
ran it last year and will have 5 this year
Dr Greenthumb IMO has some kick ass gear
a couple from last year

IR 13.jpgbbb
 

Shwagbag

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Hey guys, Im a guerilla grower from the UP. Last year I had crappy results because my strains (Nirvana's white rhino and some nirvanna freebies) didnt have enough time to flower before the frost killed them. According to the 2011 farmers almanac, the final frost date for the UP is around Oct 10.

Im looking for some suggestions for some strains to try this summer. I'd like to get something that is regularly flowering that will finish before the frost hits. Im going to check out some auto's because I know they'll finish but I also like the larger yeild from traditional plants.

do any of you seasoned veterans have any ideas or suggestions to make my 2011 year a success?
There is a strain called Top44 that is said to finish in 44 days. Might be a great option for UP growers. I did some indoors and i wasn't too keen on it at first but I'll be damned if the heavy foliage didn't conceal some nice looking buds. Gorgeous fan leaves and heavy foliage conceals its lanky buds, purpling towards harvest. Not the cock punch smoke but some good smoke. The problem is I didn't document her finish date because I grew her too tall for my box and chopped her in phases, but she definitely finished before anything in the box. I have another one in right now just put her in yesterday. Thought I would run it again since I got a clone to take.

One of my friends ranks it better than Crystal which is Northern Lights x White Widow, but I tend to disagree with him lol.
 

hic

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good looking smoke there GD!

jerry - I like Critical Mass by MR Nice. find the one that smells like a skunk. If you are really lucky you will find one that smells like a rotten onion with a dash of skunk in it. I also like Trainwreck from GHS. For a michigan outdoor grow.
 
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