Millionaire Donor Threatens Democratic Party: “If They Go Far Left, I’m Out”

ginjawarrior

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ttystikk said:
Cool. Keep voting for candidates out up by the donors of a party that doesn't give one single fuck about anything you might want or need from your government.

In short, you're defending the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting different results.
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no what i am doing is looking at your cults insanity and thinking

"fuck me those guys are crazy they dont give a fuck about facts and theres no way on earth i would want to be governed by them"

the policies themselves arent that bad.....
 
ginjawarrior

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ttystikk said:
But confirmation bias makes them feel all smug n cozy.
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a very good way of breaking any "confirmation bias" is to go back and look at the information again..

i've watched the clip of the interview a good few times and do not agree with what pada thinks was said

the moment he gives the timestamp im more than happy to look again

why do you think he's refusing?
 
Grandpapy

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ginjawarrior said:
i also feel that the best way to combat the creep from republicans is to have a united democratic party.
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Hmm, the Oil Industry is indoctrinating at the kindergarten level.

The Pharma Industry is cool with a million dollar fine for killing off 1200 WVirginians and billions in public/Civilian costs.

Just when is the best time for the Civilian Industry to start training to Unite against the Oil, Pharma, AG Aviation Industries?

A Pew Research poll found 62 percent of Americans believe the Republicans favor the rich.1 But the data tell a different story.
https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/
Shouldn't industries just declare what party/Country they represent?

(exxon has been giving away your oil)
 
Padawanbater2

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1:15

Ruhle - "When Democrats continue to say "Down with the billionaires, we can't stand the rich!" A lot of people want to be rich. So is it the right message that the Democrats are going with?"
Cloobeck - "It's so "F-ing wrong"
Ruhle - "Whoa!"
Cloobeck - "I've talked to [Chuck] Schumer, I've talked to [Ron] Wyden, I've talked to [Nancy] Pelosi, and I said "If you use the term "Billionaires again, I'm done."
Ruhle - "Why?"
Cloobeck - "Because.. it's aspirational. (Huh?) I didn't start with anything. Just, penalize everyone that's done well? We all wanna do well. And we should be the party of "doing well". We should be a party of business and leadership. And it is very, very disturbing when I hear the "millionaire" or "billionaire" word, and I've told them to "STOP IT!", "KNOCK IT OFF!". Because, everyone wants to do really well and this is the world of the, uhh, aspirations.. " (What?)
Ruhle - "Then are you worried that the Democratic party is going too far to the left?"
Cloobeck - "So much so it drives me nuts! So much so, it would make me quit the party! And, I've made it very clear, I'll cut your money off! And others will do the same. We've had enough! We need a new brand!"


Cloobeck is very clear in what he is saying during this interview; He's saying that if the Democrats (the progressive wing) doesn't shut the fuck up about criticizing the economic policies that screw over the poor and middle class that favor the rich - like him - he, and others in the donor class will stop funding them.

 
ginjawarrior

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Grandpapy said:
Hmm, the Oil Industry is indoctrinating at the kindergarten level.

The Pharma Industry is cool with a million dollar fine for killing off 1200 WVirginians and billions in public/Civilian costs.

Just when is the best time for the Civilian Industry to start training to Unite against the Oil, Pharma, AG Aviation Industries?

A Pew Research poll found 62 percent of Americans believe the Republicans favor the rich.1 But the data tell a different story.
https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/
Shouldn't industries just declare what party/Country they represent?

(exxon has been giving away your oil)
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i dont know why you are talking to me here about republican states?

im busy talking about democrats here

and why is everyone so obsessed with these alt fact websites?

you do know th anyone can make themselves a shiney website and stick what ever crap they wanted on there?
 
Grandpapy

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ginjawarrior said:
i dont know why you are talking to me here about republican states?

im busy talking about democrats here

and why is everyone so obsessed with these alt fact websites?

you do know th anyone can make themselves a shiney website and stick what ever crap they wanted on there?
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Hmm we can build Islands in the Pacific where no one lives, but unable to turn on the lights in Puerto Rico.:wall:
 
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ginjawarrior

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Padawanbater2 said:
1:15

Ruhle - "When Democrats continue to say "Down with the billionaires, we can't stand the rich!" A lot of people want to be rich. So is it the right message that the Democrats are going with?"
Cloobeck - "It's so "F-ing wrong"
Ruhle - "Whoa!"
Cloobeck - "I've talked to [Chuck] Schumer, I've talked to [Ron] Wyden, I've talked to [Nancy] Pelosi, and I said "If you use the term "Billionaires again, I'm done."
Ruhle - "Why?"
Cloobeck - "Because.. it's aspirational. (Huh?) I didn't start with anything. Just, penalize everyone that's done well? We all wanna do well. And we should be the party of "doing well". We should be a party of business and leadership. And it is very, very disturbing when I hear the "millionaire" or "billionaire" word, and I've told them to "STOP IT!", "KNOCK IT OFF!". Because, everyone wants to do really well and this is the world of the, uhh, aspirations.. " (What?)
Ruhle - "Then are you worried that the Democratic party is going too far to the left?"
Cloobeck - "So much so it drives me nuts! So much so, it would make me quit the party! And, I've made it very clear, I'll cut your money off! And others will do the same. We've had enough! We need a new brand!"


Cloobeck is very clear in what he is saying during this interview; He's saying that if the Democrats (the progressive wing) doesn't shut the fuck up about criticizing the economic policies that screw over the poor and middle class that favor the rich - like him - he, and others in the donor class will stop funding them.
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time stamp would have done but thank you

unfortunatley you are putting words into his mouth that he didnt say in the interview

he doesnt mention economic policies

he is just talking about demonising people for being billionaires

i think it is a perfectly resonable stance from him
 
ttystikk

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ginjawarrior said:
no what i am doing is looking at your cults insanity and thinking

"fuck me those guys are crazy they dont give a fuck about facts and theres no way on earth i would want to be governed by them"

the policies themselves arent that bad.....
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You're suffering from confirmation bias.

The fundamental difference between us is not the stated positions of the Democratic Party, but rather their willingness to actually implement then when given the opportunity.

I'm willing to debate that on the merits. Are you?
 
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ginjawarrior

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Grandpapy said:
Your/my Leaders are neither Dem or Rep when they bow to a communist way of governing.

It will have more to do with the price of rice and pork/proteins.
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The jest cooperates beside every fashion! Our abandoned sheep steals the community override. A trifle contradicts the blurb. The recognized break crowns a stranger. Will an atheism dispute breathe?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Grandpapy said:
Hmm, the Oil Industry is indoctrinating at the kindergarten level.

The Pharma Industry is cool with a million dollar fine for killing off 1200 WVirginians and billions in public/Civilian costs.

Just when is the best time for the Civilian Industry to start training to Unite against the Oil, Pharma, AG Aviation Industries?

A Pew Research poll found 62 percent of Americans believe the Republicans favor the rich.1 But the data tell a different story.
https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/
Shouldn't industries just declare what party/Country they represent?

(exxon has been giving away your oil)
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Great article!

So DEMOCRATS are the party that gets more money from the elites...

Smashed another stereotype!

And it explains plenty.
 
ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
1:15

Ruhle - "When Democrats continue to say "Down with the billionaires, we can't stand the rich!" A lot of people want to be rich. So is it the right message that the Democrats are going with?"
Cloobeck - "It's so "F-ing wrong"
Ruhle - "Whoa!"
Cloobeck - "I've talked to [Chuck] Schumer, I've talked to [Ron] Wyden, I've talked to [Nancy] Pelosi, and I said "If you use the term "Billionaires again, I'm done."
Ruhle - "Why?"
Cloobeck - "Because.. it's aspirational. (Huh?) I didn't start with anything. Just, penalize everyone that's done well? We all wanna do well. And we should be the party of "doing well". We should be a party of business and leadership. And it is very, very disturbing when I hear the "millionaire" or "billionaire" word, and I've told them to "STOP IT!", "KNOCK IT OFF!". Because, everyone wants to do really well and this is the world of the, uhh, aspirations.. " (What?)
Ruhle - "Then are you worried that the Democratic party is going too far to the left?"
Cloobeck - "So much so it drives me nuts! So much so, it would make me quit the party! And, I've made it very clear, I'll cut your money off! And others will do the same. We've had enough! We need a new brand!"


Cloobeck is very clear in what he is saying during this interview; He's saying that if the Democrats (the progressive wing) doesn't shut the fuck up about criticizing the economic policies that screw over the poor and middle class that favor the rich - like him - he, and others in the donor class will stop funding them.
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This, along with the article @Grandpapy posted above, cements my certainty that neither party is interested in representing the needs of the bottom 80-90% of income earners in America and that all conversation to the contrary is artifice, illusion of outright deception.

Get the fucking money out of politics or this country is doomed to suffer another Great Depression- or worse.

I'm very worried about a significant black swan event in the next 3 years. The Federal Government departmental apparatus has never been less ready to effectively deal with emergencies, the Orifice in the Oval Office isn't qualified to run a candy store unsupervised and both houses of Congress are so gripped by deadlock as to be unable to pass anything but more money for 'defense'.

If something unexpected happens, we are sooooo screwed.
 
ttystikk

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ginjawarrior said:
The jest cooperates beside every fashion! Our abandoned sheep steals the community override. A trifle contradicts the blurb. The recognized break crowns a stranger. Will an atheism dispute breathe?
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He casts pearls of wisdom before swine. Only those few who are willing to chew them over for awhile will realize their value. It's up to you to think about what he's saying.

Hint; many of the assumptions you're laboring under are carefully fabricated specifically to keep you fooled, in the dark and looking in all the wrong places for answers.

For instance, Pew Research is just about as unimpeachable a source of American political statistics as it's possible to find anywhere- yet you wave it off as 'fake news', proving that you don't know the difference.

Therefore, I'd say that it's time for you to start questioning your own assumptions rather than everyone else's facts.
 
Grandpapy

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ginjawarrior said:
The jest cooperates beside every fashion! Our abandoned sheep steals the community override. A trifle contradicts the blurb. The recognized break crowns a stranger. Will an atheism dispute breathe?
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Ok lets back up.

Since we all know (edit; US) Billionaires are made up of roughly 50% reps and dems, where is the funding for/from Demarcates in Oklahoma for the last 40 years?

Did they just stop caring? or did they see investments in other areas.

and as a result, children are not learning about climate change but the glory of oil.

Rep could donate millions to Ok's cause but why?

Meanwhile exxox makes $500B deal w/russia during sanctions. (but it's for the good of the country)

While anybody can make a website and post false facts I try to to stick with physical proof of OUR global economy by reminding people that the global profits are building real Islands in the Pacific.

America needs to refocus.
 
Grandpapy

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ttystikk said:
He casts pearls of wisdom before swine. Only those few who are willing to chew them over for awhile will realize their value. It's up to you to think about what he's saying.

Hint; many of the assumptions you're laboring under are carefully fabricated specifically to keep you fooled, in the dark and looking in all the wrong places for answers.

For instance, Pew Research is just about as unimpeachable a source of American political statistics as it's possible to find anywhere- yet you wave it off as 'fake news', proving that you don't know the difference.

Therefore, I'd say that it's time for you to start questioning your own assumptions rather than everyone else's facts.
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Why thank you!
@ginjawarrior It's my fault for not making myself clear. I had to come down a little to post this.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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ttystikk said:
He casts pearls of wisdom before swine. Only those few who are willing to chew them over for awhile will realize their value. It's up to you to think about what he's saying.

Hint; many of the assumptions you're laboring under are carefully fabricated specifically to keep you fooled, in the dark and looking in all the wrong places for answers.

For instance, Pew Research is just about as unimpeachable a source of American political statistics as it's possible to find anywhere- yet you wave it off as 'fake news', proving that you don't know the difference.

Therefore, I'd say that it's time for you to start questioning your own assumptions rather than everyone else's facts.
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this is the website that i was linked to

https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/

that is not pew and it certainly is not unimpeachable

https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-rediscovering-disproof/

https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-the-wages-of-consensus/

just as the original post in this thread it is taking facts then putting their own alternative spin on things

tell me again how i dont know the differene between orginal sources and bullshit..
 
ginjawarrior

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Grandpapy said:
Ok lets back up.

Since we all know (edit; US) Billionaires are made up of roughly 50% reps and dems, where is the funding for/from Demarcates in Oklahoma for the last 40 years?

Did they just stop caring? or did they see investments in other areas.
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maybe billionaires are not as powerful as you beleive and there are other factors like say the religous right at play here....
and as a result, children are not learning about climate change but the glory of oil.
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the website that you got your info about democrates has stuff to say on climate change

https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-rediscovering-disproof/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-the-wages-of-consensus/

do think they might possibly have a right wing agenda???
Rep could donate millions to Ok's cause but why?

Meanwhile exxox makes $500B deal w/russia during sanctions. (but it's for the good of the country)

While anybody can make a website and post false facts I try to to stick with physical proof of OUR global economy by reminding people that the global profits are building real Islands in the Pacific.

America needs to refocus.
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again word salad
 
ttystikk

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ginjawarrior said:
this is the website that i was linked to

https://capitalresearch.org/article/party-one-percent/

that is not pew and it certainly is not unimpeachable

https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-rediscovering-disproof/

https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-the-wages-of-consensus/

just as the original post in this thread it is taking facts then putting their own alternative spin on things

tell me again how i dont know the differene between orginal sources and bullshit..
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Try the bibliography, bro;

Resources & Footnotes
1Pew Research Center, “Most Americans Say Government Doesn’t Do Enough to Help Middle Class: GOP seen as favoring the rich over middle class, poor; mixed views on which class the Democratic Party favors,” Feb. 4, 2016, available at http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/02/04/most-americans-say-government-doesnt-do-enough-to-help-middle-class/.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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ginjawarrior said:
maybe billionaires are not as powerful as you beleive and there are other factors like say the religous right at play here....

the website that you got your info about democrates has stuff to say on climate change

https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-rediscovering-disproof/
https://capitalresearch.org/article/sacrificing-scientific-skepticism-the-wages-of-consensus/

do think they might possibly have a right wing agenda???


again word salad
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Again, maybe it's you.
 
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