Miracle Grow Love It Or Hate It?

Try Phalaenopsis. Moth Orchids. Available at home depot. They'll flower for six months if you keep them in temps around 70f
Easiest ones to grow. Makes ppl think you're a pro.

Yeah I think it's more like a good sized handful, not a cup. But it seems to do the trick. Hey thx for the feedback.

Fox Farm has much better ingredients then MG and Healthy Choice.
MG Healthy choice is made up of peat and sphagnum moss mostly
with a little chicken litter and that's all.

Now go take a look at all the wonderful things
Fox Farm contains. Bat Guano, earthworm castings,sea going fish, crab and shrimp meal,
forest humes,select peat mosses, fish emulsion, sandy loam, granite dust,Norwegian
kelp meal, oyster shell (for Ph adjustment)

Now which soil are your plants going to enjoy much more and reward you more with size,yield,
much better strength and taste? Basically you get what you pay for.
The difference between MG and Fox Farm would be like comparing a pea to a nice juicy big steak
for dinner.
Sure your plants look and turn out fine using MG but just think how much better better your plants
will turn out using Fox Farm. Big difference no doubt. Why cut corners with MG when it comes to your herb?
I don't get it? Anybody?

I agree. I don't grow from start to finish in MG
I like the ingredients list from what you've just described. I bet it costs a pretty penny. Don't get me wrong. I absolutely won't skimp on my plants so I make up my own mix for flowering but in veg which for me is not that long...a month at best...MG works just fine.
And it's Organic Choice I use. Not Healthy Choice.
Never tried FF. I will though, thanks for ur feedback

in a big hole filled with 2 big bags of MG moisture control.first time grow too.cant complain with the stuff

I've been using the stuff on and off for almost 20 years (for mj). Always worked fine for me. Just gotta be careful to not add too many nutes to it if it has some in it already.

It has been known to burn seedlings from time to time. I always started my seedlings in rockwool cubes (soak in PH'd water for about a day first), and wait until I saw roots coming out of the bottom before sticking them into the mg.

I always cut my mg soil with a good 30%+ perlite.

dannyboy602 said:

Ok so recently I put my foot in my mouth and bashed MG.
Because every friggin body has problems with it. That's why.
Except I grew from seed....wait...I don't like that color...
About fifteen seeds in nothing but Miracle Grow Organic Choice.
And they turned out like this...
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So for the record I like the results. IDK why ppl have probs with it.
mb they add more fertilizer and burn the shit out of everything.
Impatience gets you crappy weed. It aint the soils fault.

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heres a good tip for that ... save some mg from a grow ... flush the shit outa it ... and its perfect for seedlings . I have personnaly tried and still do this with wonderful results. I have always used Mg soils and the cheap mg nutes . You dont even need the nutes untill flowering and only a very cut rate of the mg bloom then...... I also use the MG perlite at a good rate ( it even provides a bit more nitrogen ) good drainage and airriation is helpful with any soil .....

Jeffdt1966 said:

heres a good tip for that ... save some mg from a grow ... flush the shit outa it ... and its perfect for seedlings . I have personnaly tried and still do this with wonderful results. I have always used Mg soils and the cheap mg nutes . You dont even need the nutes untill flowering and only a very cut rate of the mg bloom then...... I also use the MG perlite at a good rate ( it even provides a bit more nitrogen ) good drainage and airriation is helpful with any soil .....

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hey thanks...ima steal ur idea. hope u don't mind. ur reasoning is sound and i'm always up to try little tweaks in my regimen.

sucks dick. I like to control what my shit eats. hopefully you use up all those nutes before flushing time.............each time you water you are also giving more nutes... so a lot of noobies tend to overwater their seedlings and then burn them because of the nutes being released from the slow release balls / w.e u wanna call them.

Everytime you transplant , your adding more supply of "6 month nutes" , also giving more reason for them to not be "flushed" by harvest...

If your not as into the controlling benefits of an indoor grow , than by all means use your urine infested miracle grow :S im good lol.


Edit : The organic miracle grow ~ is fine for veg in my opinion it only feeds for 3 months i think , and in veg...who rly gives a damn what they are eatin as long as they are growin fast. My above statement is about 6 month release soils in general , i dont like that long ass time frame.

danny boy......................... u think miracle grow is good??????........... miracle grow is garbage............if u were as good as u think u are u would know that.............not that it cant be done and done well.....but.......................

wayno30 said:

danny boy......................... u think miracle grow is good??????........... miracle grow is garbage............if u were as good as u think u are u would know that.............not that it cant be done and done well.....but.......................

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Explain why you think it is garbage. I'm interested to hear your ideas.

wayno30 said:

danny boy......................... u think miracle grow is good??????........... miracle grow is garbage............if u were as good as u think u are u would know that.............not that it cant be done and done well.....but.......................

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thant's just plain silly. MG organic choice is what i used. and a lil epsom salts on occasional waterings. hey it worked. the proof is in the pudding.
i dare u to try it and we can compare notes then. but if u don't try it you'll never know. i believe in hard facts...data...it's irrefutable. oh and i try not to compare myself to anyone. plenty of ppl who know more than me. i'm not the end all be all of horticulture. how vain.

u sure talk like u know something..........i wouldnt waste my time with mg .........that shits for rookies.........that what u used as head gardener somewhere or watever........lol..........bs

Im on my first grow and i agreed with blaming the grower not the soil but i think new growers should stay away from it because its leaves more room for mistakes and it doesnt seem like a very well balanced mix in my opinion but it does work for a while but is sucked dry of nutes after like a month or two

ive used a ton of miracle grow maybe a lil more........and it sucks

Then don't buy anymore?

wayno30 said:

ive used a ton of miracle grow maybe a lil more........and it sucks

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I've used it, and I've other brands.

If I had a choice, I'd use something else. But if it's all I could afford, by all means, I will be using it. It is better than nothing.

Personally, I prefer hydro.

btw, I wasn't referring to you in my above post, just an "in general" statement.

wayno30 said:

ive used a ton of miracle grow maybe a lil more........and it sucks

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no you haven't

I Am Intrested in your debate.....

This is my babys now ... and my thread... PLEASE LEAVE HELP AND AVICE

When you look at a label on soils or ferts the thing to notice is that the ingredients are by law listed in descending order. The items listed first are in greater abundance than the things listed later. What isn't shown is how much of each ingredient is actually in there.
In a 1.5 cu. ft. bag there could be 99.9% cheap stuff and just a pinch of the good stuff. The NPK on MG Organic Choice is pretty feeble. Chicken litter it is mostly ammonical nitrogen (NH4) so it lasts. It actually takes quite some time for the microbes to feed on it breaking it down into something the plant can use. That is why it qualifies as "slow release". The moisture content and temp affects how fast this happens.
Since weed is well, a weed, it can grow well in just about anything. But it can do better if it is given all it can use and not too much more.
FFOF is largely nitrate N (NO3) and is highly mobile in the soil. This means that it washes (leaches) out with the drain water. Too much water and it has to be replaced even though the plants didn't get to use it.

Folks read labels all the time and they don't necessarily know the difference in the types of N, or whether the "glacial rock dust" that sounds so good will even break down and contribute any meaningful amount of nutrient in a typical MJ growth cycle.
I'm all for using whatever works for you so I'm not taking sides. If I had to speculate though, I'd say that the reason MG is looking to buy an existing soil company that already caters to MJ growers is because they don't think they have anything in their line-up that is optimum.