Misty / Dreamweaver/ speed queen GRow 250 Hps TenT

Ok well ill throw up some of the pics i have of my setup. As of now there is no plants in it but i have seeds germinating and i will post pictures every step of the way.




feel free to post critisism/advice/"smart people talk" please feel free to leave stupid sentences out and try to not post "more pics" "more info" untill the thread is fully set up

Day 1 : ok i planted 5 misty seeds( all came up ) also i planted some freebie seeds i got awile back its (Godbud/dreamweaver x arjans H x cinnamon x dW)
so its got some genetics in there... lets see if they come up well ive planted 3 of those and so far 1 is comming up. i also have one small plant that had most of its limbs cut off(after flower) and is back into veg... i believe it is speedqueen.

5 Misty
3 GodbudX
1 Speedqueen

i will leave them under a big 100w( really is 100 watter) cfl for about 6-7 days till all the seeds come up and get alittle height to them... then i will throw them under the mh(at distance)

i will ph my water (5.5-6.5)
at the moment i am alittle new to nutes. so i will wait till week 2 then try my hand at nutes(starting at 1/4 str) considering most of these guide's are ment for plants which use alot more nutes then cannabis so i will prolly sit it at 1/2 nutes through out the whole grow to play it safe

they are on 18/6 now(24/0 = not advised) and i will leave them veg (18/6) untill they get themselfs to about 1-1.5 Ft at that point i will (12/12) them hope fully i can get them to finish right around 3 ft and im looking for 1+ oz in 4 of the plants. these strains are indica dominant but suposedly have an 'up' high also have very short flowering time (60 days MAX ) so i will assume they will double in size and stop during flower due to the fact that they will start budding generally fast after the first 2 weeks of flower(unlike sativa's)

sorry about the pics. they were all taken on a camera phone. i may aquire a better camera later in the grow. but right now it doesnt matter all my plants are seedlings and im at 6/8 out of the soil

feel free to leave questions/comments/critisism

ok well since last post all ive had 2 plants not survive. one misty ( which came up fine) turned a dark dark green. then refused to grow or support itself... it just layed on the ground... no idea what happen but ive taken it out. also 1 Godbud seed did not come up(couldent crack its seed open) so now im down to 7 plants. 4 misty 2 godbud and 1 speedqueen(reveg)

all have been moved into bigger cups(to let there roots spread) befor i move them into there final pots

im gonna let the smaller ones catch up then stick them all under the 250w Mh light. i have room for about 4- 2 gal pots( with a good amount of space in between) so im going to stick the 4 most promising plants into the bigger pots and leave the other 3 in the smaller paper cups( which are a reasonable size)

that being said i have a few pics of the plants. as you can see some hit a growth spurt and some havent quite gotten there yet also the speedqueen reveg is showing some new growth

ok well here are the plants on day 9

theres still 2 which havent caught there growth spurt one looks like its getting there.... but the other got caught in its seed woll sprouting and it got alittle yellow which may have stunted its growth a bit. the plant in the 7th pic is looking the best so far. i also have taken some pics of the floor space of were they will be flowering. as you see there are 4 pots, with a good amount of space in between so im gonna throw the 4 most promising in the big pots (take clones of the best plant of each strain and keep it as a mother) and leave the other 3 plants in small pots between the bigger ones

i will most likly flower the plants at 12-15 inches. and hope they finish around 2 ft( plant height, pot taken out of equation)

so far the reveg looks like its just getting started on making new foliage and it better start moving or its gonna get left behind dark temp in flower box is in last picture

Week 2 ( 14 days from sprout )

plants are not under an MH, a few small problems but nothing that cant be fixed( small deficiency problem )

as always water around 6.2 ph ( 5.5-6.5)

they are now in a new grow box and the heat is a small issue. it has been running on the upper 80's. temps dark are around 70-72. temps with lights on slowly raise from 80-90 usually stabalize around 88 or so. right now the only fans are hooked up to the light. and i havent decided what type of fan im going to use yet( vent holes shown in picture) 4'' or so diameter

7 plants ( 1 for sure female 'the reveg' ) and 6 unknowns. i will begin nutes this week not sure on the details yet i will sex them in a week or 2 so i can pick out a mother( which will be kept in the same box, untill i start flowering, then the mother will be moved to a seperate area/trimmed woll the other plants flower ( hopefully i have a new batch of clones ready to flower by time the others are done )

first pic is the biggest plant( mother if female 'misty strain' )
second pic is the youngest sprout( i think alittle stunted )
third pic is of one of the average(lower leaves pale/thin)
fourth pic is average(lower leaves pale/thin)
fifth pic is average(lower leave deficiency)
sixth pic is reveg(new growth started)
seventh pic is bigest plant again( node shot from bottom)
eighth is temps/hum ( average for light on time)
ninth is the openings in the box ( 4'' hole or so )
tenth is just a pic of the MH

lol, it's the caffeine of the coca-cola that's making it grow

you are very thorough.... Looking good, sorry you lost some,.... Mine are just about the same size, just put in the lights, so they are growing bigger now. I didn't find the comment about the caffeine, but sorry.....

ok well i havent updated in alittle. ive got some new pics after transplant.

i used 1/2 str nutes on all the plants, befor the transplant. all the transplanted plants now have soil ph problems( due to shit soil) and have went through some flushing... and more in the future, so the nutes prolly washed out and wont get any more till ph is fixed

all plants are growin now( even the small stunted one) the ones with the deficiencys are alittle slower. as soon as i get the ph fixed i can begin sexing/flowering, because i wana make sure the plants are 100% going into flowering(hoping for alot of females) but i only need 4, worse comes to worse i can clone remaining plants and wait alittle longer( if i sex alot of males)

humidity is up because of all the flushing/excess water and heat is down because i got the ac on for summer, although i still will need another fan/carbon filter for flowering

ok

pic 1 is of one of the bigger plants in the 2 gal container now( no noticable deficiencys but soil ph is still alittle off i think(hopefully doest cause a problem))

pic 2 is of the biggest plant. or what was the biggest, now in a 1 gal container( to be put aside to become a mother( pale color throughout the whole plant(alittle worried about a big problem on this one, no idea why its being caused))

pic 3 is of one of the other bigger plants, not yet transplanted (shows small deficiency from erlier but its been fixed)

pic4 is one of the oter big plants 2 gal conainer(shows deficiencys in lower branches(soil ph is still off))

pic 5 shows small stunted sprout still in plastic cup, party size cup( prolly stunted from shit soil i was using, which caused me problems in all the plants)

pic 6 is of the last bigger plant, 2 gal container (deficiencys in lower leaves(ph in soil still off))

pic 7 is of the deficiency in the plant in pic 6

pic 8 is of the deficiency in plant in pic 4

pic 9 is of the reveg showing some new growth at a good rate(no deficiencys because is been in the same soil for awile(already fixed ph problem)

pic 10 is of a small second plant? ( i guess the root hit the surface and developed leaves)

pic 11 same thing on another plant

pic 12 group shot of the plants to give you some prespective on size

also i seem to have lost track of which plants are which....i know 4 are misty... 2 godbud...then 1 is speedqueen(which i know) but the misty/godbud are mixed up..

i will switch to hps in a week.. i will also list nutes/measurements next grow(prolly list the flowering ones) also i will get plant heights going into flower so i can compare how much they grew.

there looking tight and healthy, seems like they would use some nutrients, althoguh youve already started, ph down maybe?

Looks good. Good job and good luck..

ok well im at day 25 (week 3 +) and here are the updated pics

QuEsTION :

plants right now are about 7-9 inches tall... and they can get up to 2 1/2 feet(limit) there are a few prospective shots below to show the space/plant ratio... right now im asking you all when do you think i should flower... to hit the proper height -> 2 1/2 feet or alittle less

plants are mostly indica. speedqueen/misty/godbud are the strains. flower time of 55-65 days. keep those facts in mind

they have taken to the nutes and the deficiencys are slowly goin away

next time i update i will give starting flowering heights/ flowering nutes / countdown time/ anything else requested befor then

i would grow them about 18-20 inches then flower imo, you do what you think is best dude and good luck!

i said i had alittle over 2 ft... i think that may be alittle too much

So, remember the problem you were telling me about, what exactly did you do to fix it and get them all happy again? Did you change out the soil that you said was causing a lot of trouble?? I was just curious as to how you fixed it... See ya around

it was this shit soil with a very high ph... i basicly flushed the fuck outa them the gave them nutes... im dont think is 100% corrected yet... some of the green started comming back. but then the leaves just started dien from the middle outwards again and there are black spots along edges and some centers of leaves...(dien from bottom up) but the growth rate is fine. its poping out new sets of leaves... im sure with further flushing/nutes it should correct itself... but i stoped flushing for alittle to give them time to dry out... didnt wanna keep em soaked for too long.... with or without deficiencys ima stick em in flower any day now

Interesting grow! I'm having the same issues and started flowering on June 1.

Nice grow journal so far OShit! +rep!

ok well... here are my plants on day 12 of flowering ....as you can see overall theyve changed a good amount...right now my current problem is finding the sex of the plants.

as for the deficiencys. theyve been eliminated in all but 1 of the plants(misty) rest of the plants seem to have gotten a darker green and the leaves have stoped dien

height wise. theyve atleast 1/4 increase in height from befor flowering... the 2 godbud in the front are considerably shorter then the mistys(3) in the back. because of a stronger indica origin ?

1(gd)9'' (front left 2 gal)
2(gd)9'' (front right 2 gal)
3(m)16'' (back rightish 1 gal)
4(m)13'' (deficiency back mid 2 gal)
5(m)19'' (tallest back left 2 gal)
6(sq)9'' (small reveg small cup)
(heights posted)

for some reason the mistys seem to have streached alot... mabe because they were more next to the light then below it ( was keeping it lower for the smaller 3) and it seems the nodes between have streached from 1 inch to lke.. 4inches....(as seen in pics)

so far ive watered them once in flowering (just water) and in the next 1-2 days i will water them with a 3/4 dose of flowering nutes

nutes for flowering
(nutes pending)

temps still generally the same... it got up to 96( not sure how when or how long)
humidity got up to 70(when flushing) 50% at pot level now temps should be alittle better now that light on only 12 hours.... also the MH light is still in, i havent had the time to switch it yet and i can only do it within the 12 hours light time(should be done by the end of this weekend) hopefull the extra lumens from the hps will stop the streaching alittle

smell has shown alittle. it is startin to get a sweet but at the same time musky smell... kind of hard to describe its strong with a kind of nasty smell but at the same time a plant smell with a sweetish smell

any other questions, comments or request's feel free

unfortunatly today ive found 2 males woll watering, and they happen to be 2/3 misty/tall plants in the pictures they are back left and the one to its right

Sorry to hear about the males oshit, the rest look great though.