MjMama

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nice ! i bought a 32 oz bottle of em-1 from bioterra and it is fermenting in a 5 gallon :) love this stuff . mixed with lacto bact . it makes a compost heap really cook ..lol ..
glad you had fun at the bbq !
The plants seemed to love it last year. So far I've done the rice wash and now have added the milk. Just waiting for the milk solids to seperate so I can strain it and add the molasses. Then it will be ready to use.
 

mr.bernit

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Feeding will be with bulk organic ammendments and homemade fertilizers with a focus on sustainability. My soil is very rich from previous years of heavy amending. This season I'll probably just feed through top dressings and teas, and save myself the back-breaking work of mixing more amendments into the soil. I use a lot of kelp in my garden because it accumulates all the minerals that get washed into the ocean. I also mulch heavily with alfalfa to provide nitrogen, naturally occurring root growth hormones, and added moisture retention benefits. Plus lots of manure, compost and worm castings. Those are the work horse of any healthy soil.
Do you use fresh cut alfalfa or like from a hay bale?? I bale alfalfa so I have easy access to it.
 

MjMama

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Do you use fresh cut alfalfa or like from a hay bale?? I bale alfalfa so I have easy access to it.
Just a bale from the local feed store. If you have access to some I would definitely take advantage of that. Alfalfa is filled with nutrients and growth hormones that plants look. You can mulch with it to retain moisture and nutrients, or make teas with it for more immediate results. It's something that has been in my garden every season.
 

slow drawl

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Just a bale from the local feed store. If you have access to some I would definitely take advantage of that. Alfalfa is filled with nutrients and growth hormones that plants look. You can mulch with it to retain moisture and nutrients, or make teas with it for more immediate results. It's something that has been in my garden every season.
Great looking start for the season Mamma.
I as you have been mulching my gardens with alfalfa for years but have not made any teas from it. Would you happen to have a recipe to share.
 

MjMama

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Great looking start for the season Mamma.
I as you have been mulching my gardens with alfalfa for years but have not made any teas from it. Would you happen to have a recipe to share.
You can use 1/4 cup chopped up alfalfa for every 5 gallons of water.

Or you can soak 1/2 cup alfalfa and 1/2 cup kelp in water to hydrate, then run it through the blender with a 1/2 cup coconut water or aloe. You can keep this blend as your own liquid organic fertilizer @ 1 tbs per gallon of water. It's got root growth hormones, enzymes, trace minerals, etc. Great stuff.
 

slow drawl

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You can use 1/4 cup chopped up alfalfa for every 5 gallons of water.

Or you can soak 1/2 cup alfalfa and 1/2 cup kelp in water to hydrate, then run it through the blender with a 1/2 cup coconut water or aloe. You can keep this blend as your own liquid organic fertilizer @ 1 tbs per gallon of water. It's got root growth hormones, enzymes, trace minerals, etc. Great stuff.
Hey thanks Mama...easy enough. I'll give that a try for sure.
I've got a good showing of Comfrey this year. Which I just compost and top dress with.
Do you use Comfrey teas? I'm reluctant to use anaerobic teas which is all I've found recipes for. And I could be way off path with that thought. Everything in my soil is alive and well and seems odd to add anything that smells so nasty. Don't mean to bug you on your thread, just seems like you have a lot of knowledge with organics.
 

MjMama

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Hey thanks Mama...easy enough. I'll give that a try for sure.
I've got a good showing of Comfrey this year. Which I just compost and top dress with.
Do you use Comfrey teas? I'm reluctant to use anaerobic teas which is all I've found recipes for. And I could be way off path with that thought. Everything in my soil is alive and well and seems odd to add anything that smells so nasty. Don't mean to bug you on your thread, just seems like you have a lot of knowledge with organics.
Just remember there are anaerobic beneficials too. Lactobacillus for example is anaerobic and dies if you bubble it. It thrives a few inches down in the soil where it stays dark and moist. And Fermented Plant Extracts are anaerobic. I like to use some aerated compost and worm casting teas for the air loving bacteria near the top of the soil, and anaerobic beneficials for the deeper down soil that isn't exposed to air all the time. They won't compete with each other because they occupy different zones in the soil and have different needs.
 

MjMama

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As for the alfalfa tea, you can araete it or not. It won't hurt either way. You may extract more goodies by aerating overnight but you could leave it for a few days to soak without bubbling and it will still be awesome stuff. It's more for nutrients that for microbes.
 

slow drawl

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Just remember there are anaerobic beneficials too. Lactobacillus for example is anaerobic and dies if you bubble it. It thrives a few inches down in the soil where it stays dark and moist. And Fermented Plant Extracts are anaerobic. I like to use some aerated compost and worm casting teas for the air loving bacteria near the top of the soil, and anaerobic beneficials for the deeper down soil that isn't exposed to air all the time. They won't compete with each other because they occupy different zones in the soil and have different needs.
Thanks again Mama, great info. I feel like for an organic gardener I've got a lot to expand on.
 

mr.bernit

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You can use 1/4 cup chopped up alfalfa for every 5 gallons of water.

Or you can soak 1/2 cup alfalfa and 1/2 cup kelp in water to hydrate, then run it through the blender with a 1/2 cup coconut water or aloe. You can keep this blend as your own liquid organic fertilizer @ 1 tbs per gallon of water. It's got root growth hormones, enzymes, trace minerals, etc. Great stuff.
Do you added throughout the entire grow, or just during vegging, since alfalfa is high in N correct?
 

MjMama

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I've been using alfalfa for years.. top dress and teas always :)
It's great stuff. Alfalfa and kelp have been with me since the beginning. I bought a bag of kelp this season and it got left out in the rain. The worms I found under there when I moved it were massive! Feeding on straight nutrient concentrate.
 

MjMama

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Im having a hard time narrowing down my strains. What would you keep if you had to chose just 6? Strong scent/flavor and pest resistance and top proirities. Yield matters but not as much as quality and flavor. I love Sour and OG the strains.

Sour Diesel (club cut)
Sour Diesel (420 BBQ cut)
Girl Scout Cookies
Gorilla Glue #4
Grand Master Kush
Grape Ape
Yumboldt 47
CandyTrain
Photon Blaster (my own cross and my biggest plant).

I've never had Yumboldt or CandyTrain. I'm kind of leaning away from the Grape Ape because it can be a flat high and lower yield.
 
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