molasses,(EVERY THING) u need to know
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lonleysmoka
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So I just read the op and DAMN I am speechless! Great info here about molasses. It was an easy read with tons of info. I really like the homemade ferts. Thanks a ton +rep
Big Worms Way
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F'in awesome! The foliar part is kind of throwing me off tho. Do the pros outweigh the cons? hmmmmm And I am very anxious to see some side by sides, one with molasses one without kind of thing. I'm bout 4 and 5 weeks in bloom with some of my ladies. Should I use til I pluck em or flush the molasses as well? So many questions.......
autoflowerchild
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Hey,
Nice post! There are some proven & known disadvantages to using molasses however. As a career Horticulturist I must say that molasses is not the best thing for cannabis or for that matter, put anywhere near it. The primary reason is that it is like vinegar. In the "right"amounts it does have some pest deterrent abilitys (not much though) Too much and it acts like an attractant in which the amateur (lay person) has no experience in measuring then must rely on trial & error. Which is not something many wish to do only to have their plants eaten up by sugar seeking pests! Molasses is not the best nutrient solution for growing cannabis. In my humble 19 years of growing my own, and growing for some researchers as well I have found that molasses acts like a "big turd" in the plants system (roots) as it tries to deal with sugars absorbed when applied. My best and professional advice is to stay away from it and stick with a good soil and fertilizer such as 5-5-5 to begin with. Compost mixes are best and the best is the compost pile you can make for yourself very easily without hardly much effort than tossing in your food waste at the end of the day. In the sum of things molasses is messy and attracts more pests than its worth. There is also a vast number of articles written then posted on the internet under the pretense of "fact" or penned by some scientific sounding individual but, the facts are that there is no scientific proof that molasses make cannabis (or any other plants) any bigger, better or anything purported in these articles. Many years ago a professional nursery owner wrote an article on using molasses in her plants. She stated that "she thought" it helped her plants. This is where many of these articles along with the speculation that molasses will work for cannabis originated from. I realize that many growers including some of the seed companys will tell their customers to use it but again, there is no proof that it works at all. Use at your own risk is my advice. Growers who do cite "better results" when used are more likely just the recipient of good genetically harvested seeds that did well compared to plants they grew before. In other words, their plants were going to grow great anyway and the use of molasses was unjustifiably attributed to it.
Peace,
Autoflowerchild
Nice post! There are some proven & known disadvantages to using molasses however. As a career Horticulturist I must say that molasses is not the best thing for cannabis or for that matter, put anywhere near it. The primary reason is that it is like vinegar. In the "right"amounts it does have some pest deterrent abilitys (not much though) Too much and it acts like an attractant in which the amateur (lay person) has no experience in measuring then must rely on trial & error. Which is not something many wish to do only to have their plants eaten up by sugar seeking pests! Molasses is not the best nutrient solution for growing cannabis. In my humble 19 years of growing my own, and growing for some researchers as well I have found that molasses acts like a "big turd" in the plants system (roots) as it tries to deal with sugars absorbed when applied. My best and professional advice is to stay away from it and stick with a good soil and fertilizer such as 5-5-5 to begin with. Compost mixes are best and the best is the compost pile you can make for yourself very easily without hardly much effort than tossing in your food waste at the end of the day. In the sum of things molasses is messy and attracts more pests than its worth. There is also a vast number of articles written then posted on the internet under the pretense of "fact" or penned by some scientific sounding individual but, the facts are that there is no scientific proof that molasses make cannabis (or any other plants) any bigger, better or anything purported in these articles. Many years ago a professional nursery owner wrote an article on using molasses in her plants. She stated that "she thought" it helped her plants. This is where many of these articles along with the speculation that molasses will work for cannabis originated from. I realize that many growers including some of the seed companys will tell their customers to use it but again, there is no proof that it works at all. Use at your own risk is my advice. Growers who do cite "better results" when used are more likely just the recipient of good genetically harvested seeds that did well compared to plants they grew before. In other words, their plants were going to grow great anyway and the use of molasses was unjustifiably attributed to it.
Peace,
Autoflowerchild
autoflowerchild
Member
Hey friend,
Foliar feeding is NOT the best way to feed a plant of any kind. The leaves of all plant are made by nature to collect and store enegry from the sun, not to collect water or in this case, nutes sprayed that is put into a mix. leaves act like a directional device in order to drive & guide rainwater towards the base of the plant where the roots are. Roots will begin to grow outward after the tap root (radicle in some plants as it is known) in order to seek and collect not only minerals but water as well. If you observe a plant, observe where the leaves of it are pointed towards...the roots! Foliar feeding is good for a quick spritz of water but never foliar feed with nutes as they can burn the leaves even in small amount mixes. Yellowing can occur as well as drooping too when using foliar methods that can resemble other conditions such as nute deficiency or over watering.
Autoflowerchild
autoflowerchild
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Thats fine because it is put in it through a manufacturing process and the ppm's are measured AND it is a different type of molasses than what you'll find at the store. Your plants more than likely "love" the fish emulsion (fish remains) more than anything else due to the amounts of omega based nutes in it. I'll say it like this, if you and buy a bottle of molasses at the Piggly Wiggly then use it on some good strain of weed your not gonna be too happy with the result.
Autoflowerchild
potsmokinbasturd
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Sorry to stoned to read that much, could u shorten it ??
potsmokinbasturd
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lol get a day job . LMAO !!Hey friend,
Foliar feeding is NOT the best way to feed a plant of any kind. The leaves of all plant are made by nature to collect and store enegry from the sun, not to collect water or in this case, nutes sprayed that is put into a mix. leaves act like a directional device in order to drive & guide rainwater towards the base of the plant where the roots are. Roots will begin to grow outward after the tap root (radicle in some plants as it is known) in order to seek and collect not only minerals but water as well. If you observe a plant, observe where the leaves of it are pointed towards...the roots! Foliar feeding is good for a quick spritz of water but never foliar feed with nutes as they can burn the leaves even in small amount mixes. Yellowing can occur as well as drooping too when using foliar methods that can resemble other conditions such as nute deficiency or over watering.
mismos00
Well-Known Member
Hey,
Nice post! There are some proven & known disadvantages to using molasses however. As a career Horticulturist I must say that molasses is not the best thing for cannabis or for that matter, put anywhere near it. The primary reason is that it is like vinegar. In the "right"amounts it does have some pest deterrent abilitys (not much though) Too much and it acts like an attractant in which the amateur (lay person) has no experience in measuring then must rely on trial & error. Which is not something many wish to do only to have their plants eaten up by sugar seeking pests! Molasses is not the best nutrient solution for growing cannabis. In my humble 19 years of growing my own, and growing for some researchers as well I have found that molasses acts like a "big turd" in the plants system (roots) as it tries to deal with sugars absorbed when applied. My best and professional advice is to stay away from it and stick with a good soil and fertilizer such as 5-5-5 to begin with. Compost mixes are best and the best is the compost pile you can make for yourself very easily without hardly much effort than tossing in your food waste at the end of the day. In the sum of things molasses is messy and attracts more pests than its worth. There is also a vast number of articles written then posted on the internet under the pretense of "fact" or penned by some scientific sounding individual but, the facts are that there is no scientific proof that molasses make cannabis (or any other plants) any bigger, better or anything purported in these articles. Many years ago a professional nursery owner wrote an article on using molasses in her plants. She stated that "she thought" it helped her plants. This is where many of these articles along with the speculation that molasses will work for cannabis originated from. I realize that many growers including some of the seed companys will tell their customers to use it but again, there is no proof that it works at all. Use at your own risk is my advice. Growers who do cite "better results" when used are more likely just the recipient of good genetically harvested seeds that did well compared to plants they grew before. In other words, their plants were going to grow great anyway and the use of molasses was unjustifiably attributed to it.
Peace,
Autoflowerchild
What do you do to feed your plant carbs then?
mismos00
Well-Known Member
Hey friend,
Foliar feeding is NOT the best way to feed a plant of any kind. The leaves of all plant are made by nature to collect and store enegry from the sun, not to collect water or in this case, nutes sprayed that is put into a mix. leaves act like a directional device in order to drive & guide rainwater towards the base of the plant where the roots are. Roots will begin to grow outward after the tap root (radicle in some plants as it is known) in order to seek and collect not only minerals but water as well. If you observe a plant, observe where the leaves of it are pointed towards...the roots! Foliar feeding is good for a quick spritz of water but never foliar feed with nutes as they can burn the leaves even in small amount mixes. Yellowing can occur as well as drooping too when using foliar methods that can resemble other conditions such as nute deficiency or over watering.
"leaves act like a directional device in order to drive & guide rainwater towards the base of the plant where the roots are."
OK, that's one of the silliest things I've read on RIU so far.
00hotrod34
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great post....sorry i was too stoned to get past the tweaty bird
i need help I'm rookie
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ok tablesppon in gallon of water when veg or flowering and when do i stop and how often