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kieahtoka
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sorry SmokerE, I think this thread is too ingrained in the current topic to get much of a change..
kieahtoka
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I bet I can drink one first!!!
VirginHarvester
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I think any place to find good info helps and there's some great info and a lot of activity on grasscity. Having said that, there are some real assholes and it kind of cracks me up. Some people aren't very bright and bolster the notion that drugs make you stupid. Either that or our schools are so far downhill it's pathetic. But I have had run ins with people there that absolutely cannot speak or write English above a third grade level and they're making judgments and calling names. So it goes I guess.don't bother. grasscity sucks.
since i cant help but get in the middle of a good cat fight i must say this... WTF?!?! who cares what does what. you are both cut and paste habitually. and neither give credit to the person you got it from. however mogie does admit to it when its pointed out and then claims to be the queen of c&p.. i think a good old fashioned mud wrestling match would take care of this foolish feud. as far as the molasses part goes. there are too many people that believe it works. so why not give it a try and if you feel that it doesnt work then have some fkn waffles..
babygro
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Hiya Mogie
You can have a response to your message, but you might not like what it contains.
Yes, I'm getting a little weary of the bashing I'm getting on here and it's time to start answering some of this criticism. Are you up to it Mogie?
Yes I have mentioned to you in open forum that constantly (note the use of the word constantly) quoting and citing references from the GrowFAQ that is now mostly 3-4 years out of date, and many parts of which now need updating wasn't of much use to newbie growers and also that some of it is simply wrong.
Just because it's listed in the GrowFAQ doesn't automatically make it right! You still haven't seem to have got it into your head that pre-flowers are not differentiated at 4 weeks vegetative growth AND I DONT CARE WHAT THE GROWFAQ SAYS!!! It's simply wrong. I've only just seen differentiated pre-flowers on my plants at 8 weeks for christs sake.
This is the problem when you rely on out of date information - you give out, out of date and wrong information and consequently I've had to correct you spewing it into the forums.
Now compare that to my recent copy and paste of a huge article on Molasses that was of interest to a person reading this thread - VirginHarvester. He was asking questions about Molasses that hadn't been answered here, because that information is not contained in the GrowFAQ. Rather than continue to answer his questions I felt that if he read that article on Molasses he would gain all the information and knowledge he needed - and so would others.
Yet all I get for my troubles in helping to inform someone is criticism for cutting and pasting an article of interest to someone reading this thread.
If the information was already contained and easy to find in the GrowFAQ, I wouldn't have to copy and paste he would I?
I haven't followed you around on this site at all.. If I've seen you post bad information or advice - I've corrected you on it. No more.
Neither have I had one solitary discussion with you in private message about your cutting and pasting either, I have better things to do with my time.
What I have done is had a rather pointless private message exchange with you about the possible updating of the site GrowFAQ, which was all copied to Rollitup, as you well know.
In this exchange it soon became apparent to me several things. Firstly, that whilst you've done as best a job as you could in organising the GrowFAQ as it stands at the moment, and you should be applauded for the work and effort you've put into it, you've pretty much taken the GrowFAQ on this site as far as you can.
You don't have the depth of knowledge to now go through each and every FAQ and edit and update them with new information because you cannot think independantly and outside of that FAQ which was based on the old Overgrow FAQ's. Neither does it appear that you possess the ability to restructure the FAQ contents into a form that people can navigate easily. Your only defence against this was that 'people are lazy and can't be bothered to find things for themselves'. Yes, some people are lazy and won't bother to find things, but a lot of people will if the structure is there to make it easy for them.
So because of your reluctance to either let go of control over the GrowFAQ or let someone else have some positive input into its updating and restructuring, the newbie growers on this site continue to suffer in three ways: 1) Hardly any of them can actually find anything in the GrowFAQ relevant to what they're looking for 2) even when they do find some relevant information frequently it's wrong or out of date and 3) new growers continue to post their questions in the newbie forum rather than read a hard to navigate FAQ and this allows inexperienced and lacking in knowledge members of this site to go and give them wrong information.
All because your ego's too big to allow someone else to take the GrowFAQ on this site to a level you can't hope to.
I think I've made it quite clear to you here, that I have no intention whatsoever to provide you with anything while you continue to stand guard over the GrowFAQ and refuse to allow anyone else to update and reorganise it into a format useful to everyone - particularly novice and newbie growers.
Your inflated ego is holding this site back, not me.
babygro
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Some information from OverGrow in the site FAQ is outdated. The information I posted on Molasses didn't come from Overgrow and isn't out of date either.
Do you have problems with basic comprehension? or do you have problems with basic logic? Because if you didn't, you wouldn't post this bunch of complete bullshit, but it appears you lack the ability to differentiate between what information is good, relevant, useful and up to date and information that isn't.
No wonder the GrowFAQ on this site is such a fucking state.
I've taken a lot of shit on this site in the last couple of days, now I'm dishing some back - hope you enjoy getting it back as much as you did in dishing it out.
babygro
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Am I now? I can list three instances recently of where I've copied and pasted infformation. The first was on 'Stretching' which I felt was useful to newbie growers to read. The second was in the thread about 'moisture stress' where I referred you to a paragraph from the FAQ on moisture stress. The final one was on Molasses, which isn't not in the site FAQ.
How does that make me a 'queen' of anything?
Point out where anything I've said can be considered bullshit? You might think it's bullshit, but then you're hardly in any position to judge, having not even completed a single grow yet.
So, I assume if you're accusing me of something, you have plenty of proof and plenty of examples to support what you're saying here? Come up with them, put up or shut the fuck up.
Come up with examples of the bullshit you're saying or shut the fuck up.
babygro
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If you've got an example of something I've 'cut and pasted' that I've misinterpretted, let's see it.
Same to you as Kieahtoka, put up or shut the fuck up.
You're all mouth Mogie and no substance - give examples of the bullshit you're trying to spin here.
kieahtoka
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IF you had some common sense babygirl you'd know that this is not "simply wrong". It depends on the strain. Every strain has a different time to when it shows it's preflowers. Now to counter what you said I have a picture of my 4 week old plant. Hey what are those little thingies on the nodes eh? Don't go about spewing information that you have learned only from your plants and apply it to every plant on the face of the planet. What you have learned doesn't necessarily apply to everyone.
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babygro
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I wasn't on then, but I am now asshole.
You don't like going into a debate with me because you get your butt kicked from here to next week, because we're not even playing in the same ballpark jerkoff.
You want to bad mouth and dis me on here - come on then fuckwit, I'm here now.
babygro
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Very few plants will show sex at 4 weeks vegetative growth, pre-flowers will form but are rarely differentiated.
On here we deal with 'likely' scenarios, not exceptions.
For the vast majority on here, they will never see pre-flowers at 4 weeks vegetative growth - and that's what matters to the majority. Not the minority.
It's pointless telling a newbie grower to watch for preflowers at 4 weeks Veg because 9 9times out of 100 they won't show.
It's as simple as that really, and I shall check on your grow log for the dates of your plants too.
kieahtoka
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Well fine let's see...
If this is true then..
If you say that the new grow had poor drainage and that there was a buildup of water in the bottom of the pot he was using. Then watering would have temporarily brought new oxygen to the plant yes, but in turn would have just repeated the same problem! Please clarify how Watering more would fix an over watering problem? And what would happen when the problem did repeat itself? Water more?
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