Molasses?

Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Look, @Gary Goodson:

"But in low doses, hydrogen sulfide could greatly enhance plant growth, leading to a sharp increase in global food supplies and plentiful stock for biofuel production, new University of Washington research shows.

"We found some very interesting things, including that at the very lowest levels plant health improves. But that's not what we were looking for," said Frederick Dooley, a UW doctoral student in biology who led the research."

This is most likely another reason the pumice is there, and this may not directly support my theory, but it is looking good.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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Olive Drab Green said:
Meh. Either way.

I'm not starting shit here. I'm simply talking about properties of rocks. Yoda's only got a personal issue with me, otherwise he wouldn't debate the properties of something you'd at least think I'd study before I speak about. I get I've got a runaway mouth, but that doesn't mean the shit I say is baseless.
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I have no issue with you.
 
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greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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Olive Drab Green said:
My mistake, then. But don't you think I'd read into and research what I say before I say it? C'mon, man.
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you said pumice was a LOW silica, HIGH sulfur ingredient, in my opinion I don't think you did research that before saying.
and for the record I don't have a problem with you either.
however as a impartial bystander I have noticed your posts have been increasingly confrontational and aggressive the last couple months or so.
not that it bothers me.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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greasemonkeymann said:
you said pumice was a LOW silica, HIGH sulfur ingredient, in my opinion I don't think you did research that before saying.
and for the record I don't have a problem with you either.
however as a impartial bystander I have noticed your posts have been increasingly confrontational and aggressive the last couple months or so.
not that it bothers me.
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I was wrong about the silica, I was thinking of a different igneous rock, but I was just misremembering, not wrong. Everything else I said was correct.

Also, I'm not confrontational or hostile. I'm just sick of people talking shit and acting stupid toward each other, especially when they really don't know, they only speculate based on outdated and wrong information.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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@Gary Goodson
@greasemonkeymann

Most people start shit over simple, over opinionated bullshit, like my choice of lights. Saying they won't grow shit, that they're gonna die, etc. and the truth is, they don't actually know, they speak from bias. Clearly, I proved they can grow. I'm expecting 3-4 ounces minimum per plant for a 3 week veg, primarily utilizing one 450w light. I'm here for facts, not to measure dicks.

Shit like that has me a bit annoyed, and I'm frustrated with the volume of disinformation. Like, shut the fuck up and mind your own business or I'm not going to keep silent while you act like an asshole. Not you, I just mean generally

I realize I'm acting like a dick sometimes. Just bear with me, I respect all of you guys.
 
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Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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BarnBuster said:
Jack's Citrus as I remember (or Aquagold, not sure)
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I wasn't arguing that he said sulfur comes from pumice, just that a little bit was needed of any fertilizer, according to him, as Gary had said "pumice probably doesn't contain enough." Which it does, anyway, if it isn't processed and cleaned and such. I was only taking a leaf from RM3's book, not putting words in his mouth. All I'm saying is, just because you guys aren't willing to experiment doesn't mean you have to shit on me for doing research and forming a hypothesis.
 
Cx2H

Cx2H

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"the fact that Sulfur compounds help awaken the flowering genes in the cannabis plant and also contributes to the flavor and aroma of the ripened buds." - Potassium sulfate 3000 B.C
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Like, @Gary Goodson, you personally think that molasses doesn't do anything, and there are actually a large number of people who think the opposite. Yes, molasses would definitely be more efficient in AACTs, but the same process that takes place in AACTs happens in the medium with nutrients, microbes, and molasses.

To say that it doesn't work would be to say that AACTs don't work. It's just less efficient, as there's less forced air in the medium than there would be, bubbling a tea.

And the nutrients in molasses are useful and available to the plant after the microbes cycle them. I also don't think they are selective and will eat all nutrients as their population increases; they will not focus solely on the molasses.
 
Gary Goodson

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Don't tell me what I think! I said I use molasses for AACT and it's not as effective in the soil.

You make it sound like molasses is a stand alone fertilizer:roll:

It is NOT responsible for your trichome production. As you seem to think. Do you see how silly you sound to the whole forum?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Gary Goodson said:
Don't tell me what I think! I said I use molasses for AACT and it's not as effective in the soil.

You make it sound like molasses is a stand alone fertilizer:roll:

It is NOT responsible for your trichome production. As you seem to think. Do you see how silly you sound to the whole forum?
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I didn't tell you what you think, I misinterpreted it. I also NEVER said that molasses was standalone. It's incomplete. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

C'mon, man. I respect you. We're friends. Please be easy, I am not looking for a fight.

So, what macronutrient is most responsible for trichome production? I believe it's potassium, but I'll check quickly.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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It is. So, there are 800mg of potassium in my molasses. Almost a gram. So yes, molasses does boost trichome production through potassium content.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Gary Goodson said:
fuxk it, keep pouring gallons of molasses on your plants man.

Do you
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I don't pour it on, I water it in, man.


Look, most tric enhancers are potassium silicate. The thing is, in organics, you use microbes and organic matter, not salt bound chelates (hence the silicate part). If potassium is in the molasses, it's available to the microbes, which will eventually make it available to the plant.
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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Olive Drab Green said:
I don't pour it on, I water it in, man.


Look, most tric enhancers are potassium silicate. The thing is, in organics, you use microbes and organic matter, not salt bound chelates (hence the silicate part). If potassium is in the molasses, it's available to the microbes, which will eventually make it available to the plant.
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Oh well idk how my plants get the potassium they need since I don't use molasses in my soil...


Whatever will I do?


Edit: most trich enhancers a potassium sulfate
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Gary Goodson said:
Oh well idk how my plants get the potassium they need since I don't use molasses in my soil...


Whatever will I do?


Edit: most trich enhancers a potassium sulfate
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Potassium sulfate, silicate, details. They are potassium bound to a salt.

And, you can surely get potassium elsewhere, I'm just saying to say molasses doesn't contribute to trics is a fallacy, based on its potassium content and the ability of microbes to quickly turn it into plant food.

You seem to think I think that molasses is a necessity. I'm only saying it's one correct way to "skin a cat."
 
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