Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?

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KendeFyah

KendeFyah

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cannabineer said:
Thank you for the gracious response, Kende. Doubly remarkable in this corner of the forum.

I don't think stasis is in our long-term interest. Old Egypt provides an interesting example. For a long time they were the big dog in the whole Fertile Crescent. Younger, more vigorous societies found a venerable giant hollowed to paper-thinness. There is a balance between "progress at any cost" and "stay the course". I wish i knew what it was, and I sure hope that it won't be our lot to continually have to rebuild new societies, states, empires upon the hallowed bleached bones of the progenitors. cn
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You are both respectable and wise, i bow to you sir :)


...yet i still get a funny feeling in my tummy when i hear the word monsanto. progress? or profit?
i highly doubt progress in the name of profit is beneficial to the human race, only shareholders ;)
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
KendeFyah said:
You are both respectable and wise, i bow to you sir :)


...yet i still get a funny feeling in my tummy when i hear the word monsanto. progress? or profit?
i highly doubt progress in the name of profit is beneficial to the human race, only shareholders ;)
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I know. Monsanto has been involved in simply too much brigandage. It's like invoking the N-word (the one from central Europe in the first half of the previous century. THAT N-word.) to smear technologies that they brought us, such as the ones that enabled Apollo. (We imported the core team in a case of office supplies!!) AND who gave the previous "genetic engineering", eugenics, the stigma that persists to this day, deserved and otherwise.
It's a very effective tactic in order to thoroughly besmirch the very idea of genetic manipulation. I think it would be wise to consider the technology and the corporation as separable. cn
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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cannabineer said:
I know. Monsanto has been involved in simply too much brigandage. It's like invoking the N-word (the one from central Europe in the first half of the previous century. THAT N-word.) to smear technologies that they brought us, such as the ones that enabled Apollo. (We imported the core team in a case of office supplies!!) AND who gave the previous "genetic engineering", eugenics, the stigma that persists to this day, deserved and otherwise.
It's a very effective tactic in order to thoroughly besmirch the very idea of genetic manipulation. I think it would be wise to consider the technology and the corporation as separable. cn
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Niggas be hatin' on Monsanto cos they pushin' the boat out, homey.
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

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Everybody is hatin on Monsanto when it was actually Bayer Cropsciences that had the first altered genes in canola and produced Liberty and other desiccant's. Now Monsanto isn't far behind but if your gonna hate you might as well get it right! The way I see altering genetics is we have 2 choices either kill off half the earth's population or go down the gene road. My preference is a smaller population but I'm not in charge, so they took the easy way out.
 
Doer

Doer

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KendeFyah said:
You are both respectable and wise, i bow to you sir :)


...yet i still get a funny feeling in my tummy when i hear the word monsanto. progress? or profit?
i highly doubt progress in the name of profit is beneficial to the human race, only shareholders ;)
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When did benefiting the human race become the name of the game? That is a religious concept, imo. And what is brigandage for a Corporation? And are those brigands they hired still there? No, they are dead. You are hating ghosts they didn't deserve it when they were alive.

And Hate Bayer? For invention? That is even more silly. I mean, some folks want to be well rounded and open minded, yet, some don't.

I used to think those that cannot see both sides were inferior people. No longer. I see now it is simply struggle. Are the invisible People in the Emerald Forest, inferior?

Yet, if you think they are or not, does that make you somehow inferior?

Is the group of come and go, the workers of Monsanto, are they inferior, somehow?

Only profit and so called "greed" has benefited mankind, at all. Only when each citizen can have PROFIT, are we free, like now, somewhat.

Monsanto has become the Devil of the Hippy. Just plain superstition. Inferior? No. Still under educated. Still think Viet Nam was somehow caused by the Devil.

It is OK, but temporary. I was a hippy and I have yelled and scream, carried dumb signs, and marched around against Monsanto. Have you? No. You sit and rest on the stupidity, I and other have caused for you.

I apologize. Forget this stuff and get a life you will need, one day. No pressure. :)
 
DNAprotection

DNAprotection

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Monsanto Protection Act May Soon Be Repealed Thanks to Activism

http://www.infowars.com/monsanto-protection-act-may-soon-be-repealed-thanks-to-activism/

Anthony Gucciardi
Infowars.com
May 19, 2013

The so-called Monsanto Protection Act signed into law earlier this year caused such an outrage that people around the world are planning to protest the biotech company later this month. Now a United States Senator is expected to try and repeal that law after mounting pressure.
The notorious ‘Monsanto Protection Act’ rider stuffed into the non-related Senate spending bill may soon be repealed thanks to the massive amounts of activism and outrage that have now amounted into a legislative charge towards action. Action that has turned into legislation progress through Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon, who has announced an amendment that would remove Section 735 (the Monsanto Protection Act as its known) from the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act of 2013 Senate spending bill.
The rider, which almost managed to slip incognito and pass by the alarm system of the alternative media, grants GMO juggernaut Monsanto full immunity from federal courts in the event that one of its genetically modified creations is found to be causing damage to health or the environment. Essentially, it grants Monsanto power over the United States federal government. Thankfully, I was able to get on the subject through news tips and covered the Monsanto Protection Act all the way up until the bill containing it was signed into law by Obama.
Ultimately, as the Monsanto Protection Act became more a hot issue, we had an increasing amount of publicity — but the Senate vote came just too quickly for the attention to put a halt on the rider. But even after its passing, sources like Russia Today, NaturalNews, Infowars, and myself here at NaturalSociety were sounding the alarm big time. Enough so that it even led to an apology from the top Senator who actually ended up approving the bill containing the rider.
Senator Barbara Mikulski of Maryland actually went and released a statement apologizing for allowing the Monsanto Protection Act through and vowing to fight against GMOs and Monsanto. Ultimately, multiple Senators had entered damage control after the jig was up. That is besides Senator Roy Blunt from Missouri, who actually worked with Monsanto (as in he let them write it while he received funding) on the Monsanto Protection Act rider. A rider he says is perfectly reasonable. After all, why not give Monsanto full immunity from the legal system the rest of us are subject to?

Even Obama was getting blasted on his Facebook page following the approval of the Monsanto Protection Act, with the majority of comments coming into his page criticizing his signature on the bill that contained the rider.
Thanks to this activism, it looks like the Monsanto Protection Act may soon be repealed after this new bill hits Washington. This time, we will have plenty of time to let the Senators know that they are voting against the public if they choose to side with Monsanto. And with such a specific agenda for this bill, I see it doing well in the Senate.
Originally appeared at Natural Society.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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DNAprotection said:
Monsanto Protection Act May Soon Be Repealed Thanks to Activism

http://www.infowars.com/monsanto-protection-act-may-soon-be-repealed-thanks-to-activism/

Anthony Gucciardi
Infowars.com
May 19, 2013

The so-called Monsanto Protection Act signed into law earlier this year caused such an outrage that people around the world are planning to protest the biotech company later this month. Now a United States Senator is expected to try and repeal that law after mounting pressure.
The notorious ‘Monsanto Protection Act’ rider stuffed into the non-related Senate spending bill may soon be repealed thanks to the massive amounts of activism and outrage that have now amounted into a legislative charge towards action. Action that has turned into legislation progress through Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon, who has announced an amendment that would remove Section 735 (the Monsanto Protection Act as its known) from the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act of 2013 Senate spending bill.
The rider, which almost managed to slip incognito and pass by the alarm system of the alternative media, grants GMO juggernaut Monsanto full immunity from federal courts in the event that one of its genetically modified creations is found to be causing damage to health or the environment. Essentially, it grants Monsanto power over the United States federal government. Thankfully, I was able to get on the subject through news tips and covered the Monsanto Protection Act all the way up until the bill containing it was signed into law by Obama.
Ultimately, as the Monsanto Protection Act became more a hot issue, we had an increasing amount of publicity — but the Senate vote came just too quickly for the attention to put a halt on the rider. But even after its passing, sources like Russia Today, NaturalNews, Infowars, and myself here at NaturalSociety were sounding the alarm big time. Enough so that it even led to an apology from the top Senator who actually ended up approving the bill containing the rider.
Senator Barbara Mikulski of Maryland actually went and released a statement apologizing for allowing the Monsanto Protection Act through and vowing to fight against GMOs and Monsanto. Ultimately, multiple Senators had entered damage control after the jig was up. That is besides Senator Roy Blunt from Missouri, who actually worked with Monsanto (as in he let them write it while he received funding) on the Monsanto Protection Act rider. A rider he says is perfectly reasonable. After all, why not give Monsanto full immunity from the legal system the rest of us are subject to?

Even Obama was getting blasted on his Facebook page following the approval of the Monsanto Protection Act, with the majority of comments coming into his page criticizing his signature on the bill that contained the rider.
Thanks to this activism, it looks like the Monsanto Protection Act may soon be repealed after this new bill hits Washington. This time, we will have plenty of time to let the Senators know that they are voting against the public if they choose to side with Monsanto. And with such a specific agenda for this bill, I see it doing well in the Senate.
Originally appeared at Natural Society.
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Yeah, cos politicians always vote against campaign contributions...

Derp Derp Derp.
 
Antidisestablishmentarian

Antidisestablishmentarian

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I'm still waiting to see where the hell the name Monsanto is in section 735.

I know it says FARMERS and talks about not fucking over FARMERS.

I don't see Monsanto anywhere.

edit: What's even funnier is the farmers assurance provision(what its really called, section 735) expires in September. Of this year lmao.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Antidisestablishmentarian said:
I'm still waiting to see where the hell the name Monsanto is in section 735.

I know it says FARMERS and talks about not fucking over FARMERS.

I don't see Monsanto anywhere.

edit: What's even funnier is the farmers assurance provision(what its really called, section 735) expires in September. Of this year lmao.
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Don't try argue facts with these enviro-terrorist people bro.
 
Antidisestablishmentarian

Antidisestablishmentarian

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Section 735:
SEC. 735. In the event that a determination of non-regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated, the Secretary of Agriculture shall, notwithstanding any other provision of law, upon request by a farmer, grower, farm operator, or producer, immediately grant temporary permit(s) or temporary deregulation in part, subject to necessary and appropriate conditions consistent with section 411(a) or 412(c) of the Plant Protection Act, which interim conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction, continued cultivation, commercialization and other specifically enumerated activities and requirements, including measures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse environmental effects, if any, relevant to the Secretary’s evaluation of the petition for non-regulated status, while ensuring that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cultivate, introduce into commerce and carry out other authorized activities in a timely manner: Provided, That all such conditions shall be applicable only for the interim period necessary for the Secretary to complete any required analyses or consultations related to the petition for non-regulated status: Provided further, That nothing in this section shall be construed as limiting the Secretary’s authority under section 411, 412 and 414 of the Plant Protection Act.


Nope. No Monsanto there.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Antidisestablishmentarian said:
Section 735:
SEC. 735. In the event that a determination of non-regulated status made pursuant to section 411 of the Plant Protection Act is or has been invalidated or vacated, the Secretary of Agriculture shall, notwithstanding any other provision of law, upon request by a farmer, grower, farm operator, or producer, immediately grant temporary permit(s) or temporary deregulation in part, subject to necessary and appropriate conditions consistent with section 411(a) or 412(c) of the Plant Protection Act, which interim conditions shall authorize the movement, introduction, continued cultivation, commercialization and other specifically enumerated activities and requirements, including measures designed to mitigate or minimize potential adverse environmental effects, if any, relevant to the Secretary’s evaluation of the petition for non-regulated status, while ensuring that growers or other users are able to move, plant, cultivate, introduce into commerce and carry out other authorized activities in a timely manner: Provided, That all such conditions shall be applicable only for the interim period necessary for the Secretary to complete any required analyses or consultations related to the petition for non-regulated status: Provided further, That nothing in this section shall be construed as limiting the Secretary’s authority under section 411, 412 and 414 of the Plant Protection Act.


Nope. No Monsanto there.
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It also only gives farmers temporary reprieve if they're non-regulated crops.

They still can't grow these (imaginary) terminator plants that cause AIDs and cancer, because they'd be banned.
 
Doer

Doer

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This provision is the Anti-Nut Case provision of a farm bill.

If nut cases think they could talk so old fool Federal or State Judge into placing an injunction on the entire planting season of food crops...

Well, now that old judge can't do that. He can't stop planting the planting season over the claims of idiots.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Doer said:
This provision is the Anti-Nut Case provision of a farm bill.

If nut cases think they could talk so old fool Federal or State Judge into placing an injunction on the entire planting season of food crops...

Well, now that old judge can't do that. He can't stop planting the planting season over the claims of idiots.
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actually it's to prevent the nutbars from forcing farmers to harrow their fields with a crop half-way to harvest just because some asshole declares a particular previously unregulated cultivar to be "under review".

if a cultivar is already "under review" you cant plant it, but without this provision, any farmer who already had planted would have to till it up, and if the review comes up with a ruling of "unregulated" he is fucked.

under this provision, a corporate contractor who hires a farmer to grow a crop still has to take delivery of the crop even if the FDA or ag dept have ruled it to be useless, and they still have to pay the farmer because he delivered as agreed.

section 735 is the opposite of Monsanto Protection. it's farmer protection.

Example:

SuperMega Beefaroni Enterprises Intl. contracts me to grow their new GMO soya cultivar which produces beefaroni flavoured soya beans so they can eliminate the expense of vacuum dessicated beef stock in their delicious products.

the deal is i plant 1500 acres of the new Beefaroni Soy cultivar, and upon delivery of the 25000 bushels +/- 10% they expect,, and i get paid $50k. if i dont deliver, due to fire flood locust or drought i can collect from my crop insurance (but not nearly as much as i would otherwise get)

if a judge declares that GMO Befaroni Soya is suspected of causing cancer in Unicorns or giving Djinns the Green Apple Splatters before i planted my fields, the contract cannot go forward, and i lose nothing, since i can plant something else
if the judge makes the ruling AFTER i planted, well i accepted the seeds, panted em, and have a crop in the field...

Without sec 735: i have to cut down the GMO Beefaroni Soya and harrow the field, losing the contract, the seeds, the time and effort of cultivation, and i must now hope that there is another crop i can get in the ground before the season is over, or i lost the whole season, and most likely my farm, since crop insurance will not pay out for loss to regulations.

With sec 735: the crop is ion the ground, i can grow it. tend it, harvest it and deliver on my contract, even if the Beefaroni Corp cannot use the soya i deliver, they still have to pay me. woot woot.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Dr Kynes said:
actually it's to prevent the nutbars from forcing farmers to harrow their fields with a crop half-way to harvest just because some asshole declares a particular previously unregulated cultivar to be "under review".

if a cultivar is already "under review" you cant plant it, but without this provision, any farmer who already had planted would have to till it up, and if the review comes up with a ruling of "unregulated" he is fucked.

under this provision, a corporate contractor who hires a farmer to grow a crop still has to take delivery of the crop even if the FDA or ag dept have ruled it to be useless, and they still have to pay the farmer because he delivered as agreed.

section 735 is the opposite of Monsanto Protection. it's farmer protection.

Example:

SuperMega Beefaroni Enterprises Intl. contracts me to grow their new GMO soya cultivar which produces beefaroni flavoured soya beans so they can eliminate the expense of vacuum dessicated beef stock in their delicious products.

the deal is i plant 1500 acres of the new Beefaroni Soy cultivar, and upon delivery of the 25000 bushels +/- 10% they expect,, and i get paid $50k. if i dont deliver, due to fire flood locust or drought i can collect from my crop insurance (but not nearly as much as i would otherwise get)

if a judge declares that GMO Befaroni Soya is suspected of causing cancer in Unicorns or giving Djinns the Green Apple Splatters before i planted my fields, the contract cannot go forward, and i lose nothing, since i can plant something else
if the judge makes the ruling AFTER i planted, well i accepted the seeds, panted em, and have a crop in the field...

Without sec 735: i have to cut down the GMO Beefaroni Soya and harrow the field, losing the contract, the seeds, the time and effort of cultivation, and i must now hope that there is another crop i can get in the ground before the season is over, or i lost the whole season, and most likely my farm, since crop insurance will not pay out for loss to regulations.

With sec 735: the crop is ion the ground, i can grow it. tend it, harvest it and deliver on my contract, even if the Beefaroni Corp cannot use the soya i deliver, they still have to pay me. woot woot.
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Buy more guns to keep the Eco-loons away, they'll get desperate and try pull that shit out of the ground themselves...

They're fanatics, and fanatics are fucking dangerous.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Harrekin said:
Buy more guns to keep the Eco-loons away, they'll get desperate and try pull that shit out of the ground themselves...

They're fanatics, and fanatics are fucking dangerous.
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but they are also almost 100% coastal urbanites who wouldnt know a soya plant from a sunflower.

they wouldnt even know where to find a fucking farm except "someplace in flyover country" and even if they did see a soya crop they would only be able to uproot a couple plants before their delicate hands were blistered and ruined by unaccustomed labours.

they are all dilettantes, and dilettantes are fucking useless.
 
Doer

Doer

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That's easy, soya is the giant stalk one, with the the big flower. You see, the flower has a bunch of seeds, arranged in the middle, but they call them beans. Soya bean seeds....weird name..

Whereas, the Sumflower is where arithmetic comes from.
 
DNAprotection

DNAprotection

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Event and Media Resources for 5/25/13. Find Local Info and Content and Add Info and Content Here:
Posted: 25 May 2013 12:41 AM PDT
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We have created an official spreadsheet for us all to upload and share pictures and streams from our events to! It is an open source spreadsheet, so we will all be able to add content at will!

It is important that we archive content from each event all together. It will make getting out the news and stories from each march much more efficient. Documentation is essential to recording this day in history. Thanks for all your hard work everyone, and have a fantastic march against Monsanto!

Links:

Send Pictures to the main Facebook page:
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Join the Online March Event tomorrow !!!
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DNAprotection

DNAprotection

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ginjawarrior said:
Lol a March!!! Now your really getting serious I hope there's bongos
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Yes TW even mutant turtle warriors are welcome, and if you end up on your back, as you so often do here, someone will certainly stop bongoing and flip you right side up, maybe even administer some of the kind to ease your troubled turtle mind ;)


(NaturalNews) The global March Against Monsanto happens tomorrow! Nearly three hundred cities will host what's sure to be hundreds of thousands of protesters and activists around the globe who are taking a stand against Monsanto and GMOs.

YOU can join in the activities, too! Check this site to see if there's a march planned near you:
http://occupy-monsanto.com/march-against-monsanto-may-25-2013/

And learn more about the event at this FB page:
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Here are my top 10 reasons to attend the March Against Monsanto!


#1) There will be tons of press coverage, so your voice will be heard


It's hard to get your voice heard these days. But now's your chance! Bring your protest sign, wear a shirt with a message, speak to news crews or even give a speech to the audience. This is your chance to have your voice heard on an issue of crucial importance to the future of life on our planet.


#2) Send a powerful message to Monsanto that their corporate evil will not be tolerated by the people of the world

Beyond the media watching this event, Monsanto will also be very closely monitoring what happens. (Look out for "Monsanto spies" at every event!)

When you show up and march with determination and passion, you help send a message to Monsanto that they will never stop the resistance against GMOs. We want to tell them they should find a way to transition out of the market while they still have time. Let Monsanto know that We the People won't tolerate their genetic poisoning of the planet and the food supply!


#3) Learn more about GMOs and why they're so dangerous for life on our planet

By attending these rallies, you'll also learn a huge amount of valuable information about GMOs and why they're so dangerous to us all. You might even learn something so powerful you feel compelled to share it with others.

And that's how this works: Gathering knowledge and sharing it with the people around you so that they, too, can learn to avoid GMOs. Let knowledge be open-source!


#4) Listen to great speakers who share a message of inspiration and solidarity

At every city, speakers will be sharing their wisdom and rallying the crowd with inspiring, informative live speeches. Listen to these speakers and you'll learn a lot!


#5) Meet and interact with like-minded people

Want to meet informed, intelligent, health-conscious people who aren't dumbed-down like everyone else? Meet them at the March Against Monsanto!

Think about it: What kind of people come to these marches? The top 1% of the most informed, "awake" and environmentally-aware individuals on the planet. That's my kind of crowd!


#6) Send a global message to food retailers that they should drop GMOs

Food retailers will also be watching this event, and as more and more people protest GMOs, more pressure will be placed on retailers to either label GMOs or drop them altogether.

And that's what we want! At minimum, we want mandatory GMO labeling across the board. That way, shoppers can make an informed choice of what they're buying at the grocery store.


#7) Get some outdoor exercise while joining a noble cause

Joining the march will give you a fantastic opportunity to get some healthy exercise while marching for a worthy cause. It's not every day that you get to march with a group of fun, intelligent, informed people who truly represent the future of humankind (because they care about genetic integrity).

If for no other reason than this, join the March Against Monsanto and enjoy the stroll!


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Need a little help in the karma realm? Marching against evil is always a good thing; especially when you're taking a stand for universal justice: food freedom, farm freedom and the integrity of seeds on our planet.

The time to do something good is now!


#9) Show off your cool protest sign!

Bring an awesome protest sign and show it off to the crowd! I'll be marching with my own sign, and I can't wait to see what everybody else comes up with, too.

Make your sign large enough to be easily read in photos and news cameras. If your sign is awesome enough, it will get major play on the 'net!


#10) Be part of a truly grassroots, non-hierarchical, non-centralized global protest

This entire event has come into existence organically, with no central planning or coordination. I don't even know who put this together in the first place. And it doesn't matter, you see, because as long as we each continue to do our part on this, we can feel hugely rewarded in knowing that millions of other people are also doing their part for the same common goal: the global outlawing or labeling of GMOs.

Join us in this march for the sole reason that it is the right thing to do. Become part of a peer-to-peer, decentralized movement of justice against a terrible evil that threatens our planet. Feel the power of the People as you join in this meaningful, grassroots effort to banish corporate evil from our food and farms.

Learn more:

http://occupy-monsanto.com/march-against-monsanto-may-25-2013/

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