Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Samwell Seed Well said:

at one time their was no evidence that DDT caused birth defects either

Cigarettes were healthy and promoted by doctors

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Humans have to sit on their hands for eternity because something may or may not at sometime in the future be shown unsafe?

MSG was thought to be healthy

for fucks sake

pizza is a vegetable now

your they tell us so its right methodology means very little

how many sugar alternatives have been forced on to the market only to be taken off years later for cancer or bith defects risk\

PINK SLIME is MORE THEN edible its been a main stay for probably over 20 years

explain that

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I'm struggling to read your spittle flecked rantings let alone explain them

Tell you what why don't you link to example so I can read the source rather than your interpretation

link me your studies friend . . that prove GMO's are great , illgo through the last 50 years to find all the thigns the FDA adn the gov decided were ok that were not ok for consumer use . .and we will see who list is longer, and lends more credit to caution vs profit margins

ginjawarrior said:

Humans have to sit on their hands for eternity because something may or may not at sometime in the future be shown unsafe?

I'm struggling to read your spittle flecked rantings let alone explain them

Tell you what why don't you link to example so I can read the source rather than your interpretation

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do you knwo how many people all over the world were effected by DDT and the 40 year mistake of its greatness and use . . . .. .wow , just wow

your get it all and make as much as possible and do as much as possible at whatever cost as long as we are not "siting on our hadn s" argument seems foolish

if we do not heed the mistakes of the past we are doomed to repeat them

money profit margins and cooperate exspase in not an excuse to through caution to the wind

Samwell Seed Well said:

but its not 100%, they use non organics in teh process . .the qualifications for organic have become less organic as of late so more people can make money

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cite?

look it up, the FDA organic labeling system is fucked up

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Cite?

scaring misinformed idiots .. . .huh....you say its unequivocally better then the same product . . .. shoudl be easy to prove then huh

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please show where I said " unequivocally better then the same product"

but the fact is that its not proven

or the results would be transparent

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Proving a negative isn't possible

Every single attempt at trying to find harm in gmo has transparently failed

how long after DDT was used did they know it was bad for you and how long did it take to get it off the shevles

13 years after it as known to be deadly, 23 years after it was thought to be deadly and 40 years after it was created

it was also thoguht to be a break through and it was a farce created by those who made the most money off it



40 years for proper testing, which was observe, as DDT effects are easily seen .. . . . .whats that about scietific method . . . . .shoudl have been obvious . . . huh

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Utterly irrelevant to discussion of gmo

Samwell Seed Well said:

do you knwo how many people all over the world were effected by DDT and the 40 year mistake of its greatness and use . . . .. .wow , just wow


your get it all and make as much as possible and do as much as possible at whatever cost as long as we are not "siting on our hadn s" argument seems foolish

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your hysterical comparison of ddt is foolish

Get evidence that gmo is bad

Samwell Seed Well said:

do you knwo how many people all over the world were effected by DDT and the 40 year mistake of its greatness and use . . . .. .wow , just wow

your get it all and make as much as possible and do as much as possible at whatever cost as long as we are not "siting on our hadn s" argument seems foolish

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Not many

DDT wasn't banned because of ill affects on humans

I'd say millions were affected by DDT. In a good way. Malaria was wiped from our nation thanks to DDT. Saved countless numbers of lives.

Sam, I posted a link to 600 studies showing they were safe. It's up to you to click it. Someone else posted it after I did as well.

Antidisestablishmentarian said:

I'd say millions were affected by DDT. In a good way. Malaria was wiped from our nation thanks to DDT. Saved countless numbers of lives.

Sam, I posted a link to 600 studies showing they were safe. It's up to you to click it. Someone else posted it after I did as well.

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DDT was beneficial to us.
Shown to cause a lot of damage to the enivroment. That's why it got banned

right


Potential mechanisms of action on humans are genotoxicity and endocrine disruption.

huh . . .endocrine . . . . . huh . . . .do any of you knwo what that is at all

the real doctors in the members list will/should


im wtf


im guessing cigarettes are still ok right

Samwell Seed Well said:

right


Potential mechanisms of action on humans are genotoxicity and endocrine disruption.

huh . . .endocrine . . . . . huh . . . .do any of you knwo what that is at all

the real doctors in the members list will/should


im wtf


im guessing cigarettes are still ok right

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Health effects of DDT exposure are much more contentious than the environmental effects. Carson's study relied heavily on the carcinogenic effects of DDT but to this day they remain highly speculative. A group convened by the International Agency for Research on Cancer concluded in 1991 that prior studies are inadequate evidence for carcinogenicity in humans. Reports since have focused on DDT's effect on liver and pancreatic Cancer but have yet to conclusively prove its carcinogenic effects. For details of various agencies' evaluations of DDT's chronic toxicity, please visit the Pesticide Action Network's page on DDT.

ignore it if you like,

genotoxicity ,endocrine system . . . .. i cant make you read or use google to educate yourself

when you start to use google, pleasure yourself!

Whats so bad about genetically engineering weed. Noobs would love it because it would be resistant to diseases and pests and all the other shit they suck at. We could probably increase thc concentrations not alter the drug as well. A win win in my book, i wouldn't have to read half the stupid help me out my plants are sick threads that I do on a regular basis over the dumbest things and I would be able to get even higher, smokin less weed, perfect.

Whats the worst thing that could happen anyway? People get sick or are exposed to unknown health risks and complications in the future? Well duh dont use it until it is a proven and quality tested alternative to natural cannabis and there are no reports of adverse side effects. Why ban scientific exploration before the all the benefits of it is understood. Think about the industrial applications of genetically altered industrial hemp and the potential that holds for the future. I say go science, change is a good thing anyway, the same ol gets boring after a while.

If you're worried about cross contamination between species, I doubt that the people that have financial capabilities to genetically engineer weed lack the funds to ensure that contamination in not an issue. I know about the genetically altered corn that leaked out and contaminated fields but that is a rare occurrence. A serious failure in ensuring the safety of the public is just as likely to happen in any other field of scientific exploration as well. The only reason you are able to even debate this topic on your laptop over the internet using electricity in your air conditioned home is because past risks were taken in scientific exploration. Get a clue people.

Responding to the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] post of the OP, NO , I do not like GMO.


Imagine this , a company like Monsanto starts tinkering with Cannabis DNA genetics as legalization spreads, they eventually create strains of Cannabis that are physically addictive in the same way Tobacco plants are addictive with higher nicotine producing varieties of Tobacco. Now you have a new form of Cannabis that the world has never had before. It's not just an enjoyment, but you physically feel sick when you skip a day from getting high instead of just wishing you had some to get high.


Don't kid yourself thinking Monsanto wouldn't put their top plant geneticists on a project like that. It would ensure that a steady flow of income would come in.


Who's to say that certain genetics of the Poppy plant which has physically addictive properties couldn't be crossed with Cannabis genetics making physically addictive strains of Cannabis ? This would open all sorts of nightmares coming out of pandora's box. As many Cannabis users in the world that exist , especially in the US, it would be a guaranteed cash flow of steady ganja consumers.


I'm all for total legalization of ganja , but I am dead set against Monsanto and their GMO frankenfood bullshit. It's kind of ironic that the elite of the world that push for Monsanto refuse to eat GMO foods but want the lower classes to eat the hazardous garbage.


http://www.seattleorganicrestaurants.com/vegan-whole-foods/gmo-hypocrisy-double-standards/


Also - Cross breeding different species of Cannabis with other species of Cannabis isn't the same thing as injecting DNA of Poppy plant into Cannabis , or creating some type of Cannabis that has pesticide already intertwined within the Cannabis DNA such as the Round-Up Ready Corn. Some of these posters here are going to be Pro-GMO come hell or high water no matter what. I'm not posting for them but for others like myself.


Another thing though is I don;t think there is anything that can be done to stop the genetic testing of Cannabis DNA strains. I think it will come soon, so the Pro-GMO folks will get exactly what they wish for. There is something that the Anti-GMO folks can do in regards to Cannabis, start buying up seeds NOW, of as many varieties as you can get of your favorite strains. Store them well, breed seeds so that you will always have stock of Non-GMO Cannabis.


The upside to this if you start breeding your own Non-GMO seeds now and store them well is I guarantee you will find a market for them when the FrankenFood Monsanto Corporation starts meddling with Cannabis genetics !!! There will be many organic growers that will want them. There are a lot of us out there who are Anti-GMO.

Doesn't anyone realize that the population of the world has only been able to get as big as it has because of genetically modified food in the first place? NO one in this entire thread has touched on the logistics of world hunger and the reason why we are even able to support the current global population in the first place. Geez why is everyone so narrow minded

I cant wait for 20 years from now when everyone crying about how hungry they are and have to plant their own garden just to support their family. You'll see, something dramatic needs to be done to the food industry over the next 20 years or there are going to be bigger issues than just genetically engineered food.

Situation420 said:

I cant wait for 20 years from now when everyone crying about how hungry they are and have to plant their own garden just to support their family. You'll see, something dramatic needs to be done to the food industry over the next 20 years or there are going to be bigger issues than just genetically engineered food.

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not me and my family I got a little farm that can be a huge farm within a years notice as I breed and sell animals and I could just keep them all plus I have plenty of gmo free seeds I never got around to and I got more cannabis seeds then anything else.

TreeOfLiberty said:

Who's to say that certain genetics of the Poppy plant which has physically addictive properties couldn't be crossed with Cannabis genetics making physically addictive strains of Cannabis ? This would open all sorts of nightmares coming out of pandora's box. As many Cannabis users in the world that exist , especially in the US, it would be a guaranteed cash flow of steady ganja consumers.

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well maybe they could but who would be foolish enough to buy them? I know I'm not the only one with 100's of cannabis seed and no space to grow them all I've also read enough about breeding where I could do pretty good at least at breeding I damn sure wouldn't be the worst.

DNAprotection said:

Tell ya what Frank (and all the SHDT), here's your chance to finally make a difference in this life (when pigs fly)...
I'll take the high road (got wings?) and you take the low road,
and we'll meet up again here in the mornin,
if you can find a post where I lied about the quotes,
then I'll get on the boat for Loch Lomond

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Well Frank you and the SHDT have had ample time to produce even one post to back your claims and you couldn't...not surprising though because as you well know such does not exist...so once again you are left only with seriously needing to heed your own words...

Harrekin said:

Fuck off with your retardism.

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lol...

Samwell Seed Well said:

who conducted these independant studies that prove all teh glory to the GMO foods, a simple link would suffice . . .

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Science is not for that, sophist. You Luddites need to get a smattering of the basics. Sci. is to dis-prove a hypothesis. Not kidding. An honest sci. is like this.

H - Pure Water can freeze at several temps.
E -Control everything including the temp of the water. Run the experiments until there is a statistically significant sample size. Math work.
R - Pure water cannot be made to freeze at any but one temp if all the other variables such as pressures, light, etc are controlled.

So, if you look at medical trials, something I know too much about, this is how it works. First, does it harm? Second, does it work? Third, does it work in humans?

So, sam, it is your Luddite tendencies that make you ignore reality.

It is frequently claimed that GM foods are not properly tested, or asserted that few independent studies have been published to establish their safety. Another similar claim made is that the food regulatory agencies rely exclusively of corporate information to decide whether GM food and feed are safe. The further claim is made that very few independent tests relating to GM food safety are done. This conventional 'wisdom' is wrong. The modern scientific literature shows that these commonly held opinions are merely myths. Academics Review website comprehensively shows that many of these myths are merely baseless rumors and misinformation.

Currently there are near 600 peer-reviewed reports in the scientific literature which document the general safety and nutritional wholesomeness of GM foods and feeds.

Note also that by December 2010, 15 years, 81 projects, 400 teams and at least €70 million had been spent by European Union taxpayers on issues relating to GMO safety or GMO acceptance. (This is documented in December 2010 at another GMO Pundit posting, and is described at a comprehensive European commission website.).

A summary report on this major project is available as a pdf file:EUROPEAN COMMISSION 2010 A Decade of EU-funded GMO research