Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013
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Ninjabowler
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Blablabla, what is this one foot in the water crap? Quit dancing around your position and be a man, stand up for what you believe in bud, its ok, nobodys gonna hurt ya
Ninjabowler
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ginjawarrior
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ahh yeah an appeal to emotion "wont you think of the children"
to show something is the truth you must show evidence of it
something your side seems to find impossible to do
Harrekin
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Watch out! The corn shall rise again!
Ninjabowler
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The evidence is yet to come with gm foods. Can you find evidence that tampering with our food supply has hurt us in the past? Oh yes you can bud. Look at hormones in dairy cattle. Deny that shit all you want bud, youve got big buisiness backing the claims that milk treated with rbst or whatever its called, is just fine to drink but its not. That lableing is just a way that they can avoid getting sued from all the contaminated milk theyve given to the public. Just put your head back in the sand, yur safer there.
ginjawarrior
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Compelling evidence above, GM food must be dangerous afterall.
Ninjabowler
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So once again it looks like theyve figured you out soooooooo.........spin it quick before you look stupid. Why dont you ask the cow how it feels being jacked up with milk steroids. Wait, let me guess..
Cows cant talk, or pay taxes, or pay monsanto..screw those cows. Or maybe this one,
id like to see one "study" that says that cows milk is bad for you. Or maybe this one,
Find my words that say altering our food supply is just fine in my books.
Like i said, burn that degree you have, it hasnt done you any good.
Harrekin
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I'd like to see just one study that even vaguely indicates commercially available GM food poses ANY health risk whatsoever.
Have at it, Organic Boy.
Dr Kynes
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i read all your insane posts over the last 5 or so pages.
you have provided no proof to support your claims.
you added NEW wild crazy insane claims to this bloated thread, aand CONTINUED the claim that disagreeing with you is proof of being in league with monsanto and hitler.
for the millionth time, prove your claims or stuff it.
rBST is a hormone which increases milk production in cattle.
rBST had serious downsides for the cattlemen who used it, it was BAD FOR THIER COWS. most cattlemen stopped using it because their cows are important to them.
those cattlemen who choose to continue to use rBST dont get my business.
rBST is still legal in the US, but most dairy farms dont use it at all. amazing.
the voices of cattlemen, who KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT has nearly eliminated this practice, without resorting to legislation.
all the fearmongering about rBST was detrimental to the real facts, and caused some farmers to dig in their heels. rBST would have flopped like a goddamned turd if the lefties hadnt started the terror campaign.
the surest way to get a farmer to do something you dont want is to tell him he cant do it. rural folks dont like you city slickers telling us what to do, and if you shut the fuck up and slink back to your titty bars and all night dubstep raves, we will do our own thing.
but you dont get that. you think your opinion is somehow valuable, that we should feel blessed by your wisdom.
us farmers will grow what we want, and youll eat it. you aint got no choice. you need us, we dont need you.
also, we rub our dicks on your "organic" vegetables before we truck em up to the safeway.
Ninjabowler
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What a coincedence, thats same argument used with asbestos, coal mining, silicon mining, tobacco companies, silicone breast implants, tanning beds, and on and on and on....untill they saw the truth. But ignorance is bliss. Im done argueing. Have fun guys, maybe you can keep this thread going around in circles for another hundred pages
Ninjabowler
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Well if it isnt monsanto hitler back to tell us all how he works for monsanto....have fun tryin to convince people to to fuck the planet.
Harrekin
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DNAprotection
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Redesigning the World:
Ethical Questions about Genetic Engineering
Redesigning the World
For tw and those that don't understand that there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns that make genetic engineering a risk to us all that only serves the few, here is some recent news, but first lets review the fact that we don't really have any idea yet of what we are really doing when we start re-sequencing or redesigning DNA, the debate ending quote of destiny:
[video=youtube;_w5JqQLqqTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5JqQLqqTc[/video]
Hitler's entire dream was based on genetic superiority.
What would Hitler have done with the genetic engineering capabilities of today's technology?
Now imagine all the corporate mechanisms of control that exist in America and how such has been used over the years to bring even more centralized control.
Now imagine what those same corps and their puppet govs will do with genetic engineering technology?
IBM and Bayer and DuPont etc are the same corps that were in business with Hitler and were in full support of his dream of a master race.
Now IBM et al wants us all to help them 'build a smarter planet'...if anyone can add 2 + 2 then they should be able to add up whats going on with genetic engineering.
Some folks here it seems can only see a Pollyanna version or piece of the picture that suits them such as how such technology could help us all, but unless put into the context of who's developing the technology and for what, such a view is like seeing the toe of a beast yet remaining blind to the rest of the body, especially the hungry mouth.
Its one thing to wish for good, but in this case its more like wishing for a less painful way to be eaten.
20 January 2013
'Quadruple helix' DNA seen in human cells
Jonathan Amos By Jonathan Amos Science correspondent, BBC News
A representation of the four-stranded structure (L) and fluorescent markers reveal its presence inside cells (R) A representation of the four-stranded structure (L) with fluorescent markers revealing its presence inside cells (R)
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Cambridge University scientists say they have seen four-stranded DNA at work in human cells for the first time.
The famous "molecule of life", which carries our genetic code, is more familiar to us as a double helix.
But researchers tell the journal Nature Chemistry that the "quadruple helix" is also present in our cells, and in ways that might possibly relate to cancer.
They suggest that control of the structures could provide novel ways to fight the disease.
"The existence of these structures may be loaded when the cell has a certain genotype or a certain dysfunctional state," said Prof Shankar Balasubramanian from Cambridge's department of chemistry.
"We need to prove that; but if that is the case, targeting them with synthetic molecules could be an interesting way of selectively targeting those cells that have this dysfunction," he told BBC News.
Tag and track
It will be exactly 60 years ago in February that James Watson and Francis Crick famously burst into the pub next to their Cambridge laboratory to announce the discovery of the "secret of life".
What they had actually done was describe the way in which two long chemical chains wound up around each other to encode the information cells need to build and maintain our bodies.
Today, the pair's modern counterparts in the university city continue to work on DNA's complexities.
Balasubramanian's group has been pursuing a four-stranded version of the molecule that scientists have produced in the test tube now for a number of years.
It is called the G-quadruplex. The "G" refers to guanine, one of the four chemical groups, or "bases", that hold DNA together and which encode our genetic information (the others being adenine, cytosine, and thymine).
The G-quadruplex seems to form in DNA where guanine exists in substantial quantities.
And although ciliates, relatively simple microscopic organisms, have displayed evidence for the incidence of such DNA, the new research is said to be the first to firmly pinpoint the quadruple helix in human cells.
'Funny target'
The team, led by Giulia Biffi, a researcher in Balasubramaninan's lab, produced antibody proteins that were designed specifically to track down and bind to regions of human DNA that were rich in the quadruplex structure. The antibodies were tagged with a fluorescence marker so that the time and place of the structures' emergence in the cell cycle could be noted and imaged.
This revealed the four-stranded DNA arose most frequently during the so-called "s-phase" when a cell copies its DNA just prior to dividing.
Prof Balasubramaninan said that was of key interest in the study of cancers, which were usually driven by genes, or oncogenes, that had mutated to increase DNA replication.
If the G-quadruplex could be implicated in the development of some cancers, it might be possible, he said, to make synthetic molecules that contained the structure and blocked the runaway cell proliferation at the root of tumours.
"We've come a long way in 10 years, from simple ideas to really seeing some substance in the existence and tractability of targeting these funny structures," he told the BBC.
"I'm hoping now that the pharmaceutical companies will bring this on to their radar and we can perhaps take a more serious look at whether quadruplexes are indeed therapeutically viable targets."
Prof Shankar Balasubramanian Prof Shankar Balasubramanian in front of a painting by artist Annie Newman that represents quadruplex DNA
Good news trend for yes voters:
IBM to ‘financialize’ water; the last frontier in monopolizing human rights and installing neo-feudalism
Release Date: January 23, 2013
Issued By: Waterfund LLC
NEW YORK, NY – January 23, 2013 – Waterfund LLC announced today that it has signed an agreement with IBM (NYSE: IBM) to develop a Water Cost Index (WCI).
Scientists from IBM Research will apply Big Data expertise, acting as a calculation agent, to analyze large and diverse unstructured data sets. This will be used to develop of a WCI framework that would estimate the cost of water in different regions around the world. With its market and financial product expertise, Waterfund will work to structure and commercialize the WCI.
Population growth, massive urbanization and climate change are placing increasing demands on our limited water supply. Forty one percent of the world’s population – that’s 2.3 billion people – live in water-stressed areas; this number is expected to grow to 3.5 billion by 2025. And according to the United Nations, water use has been growing at more than twice the rate of population increase over the last century.
With advances in technology — deep computing and Big Data analytics linked to sophisticated sensor networks and smart meters — IBM is helping clients and partners make smarter decisions about water management. By monitoring, measuring and analyzing water systems, from rivers and reservoirs to pumps and pipes, we can better understand the issues around water. IBM is applying its expertise in smart systems and Big Data to help companies, governments and citizens understand and more effectively deal with these issues.
As governments are increasingly forced to turn to the private sector to fund the construction and maintenance of complex water networks, the Rickards Real Cost Water Index™ will serve as a benchmark for helping measure hundreds of critical projects on a like-for-like basis. Index values will reflect estimated water production costs measured in US dollars per cubic metre for a variety of major global water infrastructure projects ranging from retail water utilities and wholesale water utilities to major transmission projects.
Carry on
ginjawarrior
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ethical questions but still no evidence
cute but still no evidence?
oh good a godwin
and still no evidence?
and?
still no evidence
absolutly nothing to do with GMO what the fuck are you posting it here?Good news trend for yes voters:
IBM to ‘financialize’ water; the last frontier in monopolizing human rights and installing neo-feudalism
Release Date: January 23, 2013
Issued By: Waterfund LLC
NEW YORK, NY – January 23, 2013 – Waterfund LLC announced today that it has signed an agreement with IBM (NYSE: IBM) to develop a Water Cost Index (WCI).
Scientists from IBM Research will apply Big Data expertise, acting as a calculation agent, to analyze large and diverse unstructured data sets. This will be used to develop of a WCI framework that would estimate the cost of water in different regions around the world. With its market and financial product expertise, Waterfund will work to structure and commercialize the WCI.
Population growth, massive urbanization and climate change are placing increasing demands on our limited water supply. Forty one percent of the world’s population – that’s 2.3 billion people – live in water-stressed areas; this number is expected to grow to 3.5 billion by 2025. And according to the United Nations, water use has been growing at more than twice the rate of population increase over the last century.
With advances in technology — deep computing and Big Data analytics linked to sophisticated sensor networks and smart meters — IBM is helping clients and partners make smarter decisions about water management. By monitoring, measuring and analyzing water systems, from rivers and reservoirs to pumps and pipes, we can better understand the issues around water. IBM is applying its expertise in smart systems and Big Data to help companies, governments and citizens understand and more effectively deal with these issues.
As governments are increasingly forced to turn to the private sector to fund the construction and maintenance of complex water networks, the Rickards Real Cost Water Index™ will serve as a benchmark for helping measure hundreds of critical projects on a like-for-like basis. Index values will reflect estimated water production costs measured in US dollars per cubic metre for a variety of major global water infrastructure projects ranging from retail water utilities and wholesale water utilities to major transmission projects.
Carry on
anyway thought you said you had no credibilty here anymore? that your "plans" for this forum had been ruined?
Harrekin
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I love the way GAYprotection seems to think an opinion piece or an Internet article is the same as a published, peer reviewed scientific journal.
Reee-taaaaar-deeeed!
DNAprotection
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OK tw maybe this simple equation will make it easier for ya...
Genetic engineering from Monsanto et al is to nature what Hitler was to music and the arts or like what tw is to adding and critical thinking or as Frank is to a MASH unit...there now all should be clear and there should be no more need for me here...pig on the wing'
NAZI APPROVED MUSIC
Under the Nazi regime, all music produced had to fit within certain standards defined as "good" German music. Suppression of specific artists and their works was common, yet musicians were permitted limited artistic freedom. The Nazis attempted to create a balance between censorship and creativity in music to appease the German people.
This blend of art and politics led to a three-prong policy regarding musicians and artists:
Loyal Nazi members who were talented musicians were guaranteed a job.
Loyal Nazi members who were not talented musicians were not guaranteed a job.
Any non-Jewish person who demonstrated a "genius" for music and was a member of the Reichsmusikkammer (Reich Music Chamber) was permitted employment. This exception in policy permitted musicians like conductor Wilhelm Furtwangler and composer Richard Strauss to continue working.
Music Approved of by the Third Reich
Art of the Holocaust
Music and Politics in Hitlers Germany:
http://web.jmu.edu/history/mhr/Cathcart/Cathcart.pdf
The Downside of Human Genetic Engineering
Human Genetic Engineering Cons: Why This Branch of Science is so Controversial
Arguing For and Against Genetic Engineering
Arguing For and Against Genetic Engineering
Genetic engineering from Monsanto et al is to nature what Hitler was to music and the arts or like what tw is to adding and critical thinking or as Frank is to a MASH unit...there now all should be clear and there should be no more need for me here...pig on the wing'
NAZI APPROVED MUSIC
Under the Nazi regime, all music produced had to fit within certain standards defined as "good" German music. Suppression of specific artists and their works was common, yet musicians were permitted limited artistic freedom. The Nazis attempted to create a balance between censorship and creativity in music to appease the German people.
This blend of art and politics led to a three-prong policy regarding musicians and artists:
Loyal Nazi members who were talented musicians were guaranteed a job.
Loyal Nazi members who were not talented musicians were not guaranteed a job.
Any non-Jewish person who demonstrated a "genius" for music and was a member of the Reichsmusikkammer (Reich Music Chamber) was permitted employment. This exception in policy permitted musicians like conductor Wilhelm Furtwangler and composer Richard Strauss to continue working.
Music Approved of by the Third Reich
Art of the Holocaust
Music and Politics in Hitlers Germany:
http://web.jmu.edu/history/mhr/Cathcart/Cathcart.pdf
The Downside of Human Genetic Engineering
Human Genetic Engineering Cons: Why This Branch of Science is so Controversial
Arguing For and Against Genetic Engineering
Arguing For and Against Genetic Engineering
Harrekin
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Music has nothing to do with GMOs, your analogy is retarded. Any published scientific papers supporting your side?
Grandpapy
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They (Monsanto types) have with the aid of the FDA's "blind eye", cost american farmers Millions in losses and the american consumer Millions in increased prices.
After being banned in Europe, they re-introduce it here! Why not just shoot the farmer instead?
This requires careful reading to compare dates:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder
It's not a matter of weather or not GMO is safe, but a matter of, weather or not the FDA cares more for you, or "Corp. America"
We already know how "all american" they are.
imo.
After being banned in Europe, they re-introduce it here! Why not just shoot the farmer instead?
This requires careful reading to compare dates:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder
It's not a matter of weather or not GMO is safe, but a matter of, weather or not the FDA cares more for you, or "Corp. America"
We already know how "all american" they are.
imo.