Monster clone update2.2

Relaxed

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confused on the monster clone title? interested. I just did a foot tall clone with 4 different separated tops. 2 of them. usually mine are 4 inches or so. fill me in.
 

MAGpie81

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Got my second 60o Watts hps/metal halide today so 3 plants spaced perfectly between the 2 lights I will use the HPS for fliwering don't worry about the mirrors they work for me quite nicelyView attachment 4858731
I love a good “make-do” setup- all of mine have been; I always work with what I have before I buy. I did just buy my first powerful (but budget) LED, and need to set up a good veg space.
I found your thread by simply typing “mirrors” into the search, because I have a few laying around and before I go buy some mylar I hoped to hear some science-backed pros and cons as well as testimonies good or bad on the use of mirrors vs. other reflective surfacing.
My theory is that because they reflect so refined and directly that the “footprint” or path of light is narrowed to the range of directly to-and-from the mirror rather than increasing it’s coverage area through diffusion. This also means that any less reflective colors or mediums that reflect in the mirror will maintain their “weak” light position (directly to-and-from the mirror) rather than being covered by the diffusion of a powerful source-light.
So, if there is a greater amount darkness the mirror will reflect that as well as the room itself does, whereas a material with mylar’s diffusion aspect will reflect/diffuse light from your actual lights over the darkened areas as well, rather than reflect directly back at itself.
Anyhoo, will still probably add a mirror somewhere, perhaps underneath, to reflect my babies-first-LED SF-1000D, haha ;)
 

osowhom

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I love a good “make-do” setup- all of mine have been; I always work with what I have before I buy. I did just buy my first powerful (but budget) LED, and need to set up a good veg space.
I found your thread by simply typing “mirrors” into the search, because I have a few laying around and before I go buy some mylar I hoped to hear some science-backed pros and cons as well as testimonies good or bad on the use of mirrors vs. other reflective surfacing.
My theory is that because they reflect so refined and directly that the “footprint” or path of light is narrowed to the range of directly to-and-from the mirror rather than increasing it’s coverage area through diffusion. This also means that any less reflective colors or mediums that reflect in the mirror will maintain their “weak” light position (directly to-and-from the mirror) rather than being covered by the diffusion of a powerful source-light.
So, if there is a greater amount darkness the mirror will reflect that as well as the room itself does, whereas a material with mylar’s diffusion aspect will reflect/diffuse light from your actual lights over the darkened areas as well, rather than reflect directly back at itself.
Anyhoo, will still probably add a mirror somewhere, perhaps underneath, to reflect my babies-first-LED SF-1000D, haha ;)
well the feedback i got was mirrors cause hot spots but whatever i have them already so i use them so far so good
 

Star Dog

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I've heard the term hot spots but I think it's bro science in terms of growing.
I know you can focus multiple beams of Sun Light with reflectors, lots of science and ultra fine tuning to raise temperatures but in the confines of a grow room with a 600/1000w light as the energy source?
I'd need to see it...
 

MAGpie81

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well the feedback i got was mirrors cause hot spots but whatever i have them already so i use them so far so good
I read up on it and probably not worth it for me. It actually causes cold sinks, according to the article I linked. Checked another article from High Times for positive feedback and saw none I remember. Sure, maybe not the best sources but I could understand the reasoning. Not that there can’t be a benefit under the right circumstances.

Anyhoo, just my two cents.
Happy growing, looks good!


 

Killaki

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I read up on it and probably not worth it for me. It actually causes cold sinks, according to the article I linked. Checked another article from High Times for positive feedback and saw none I remember. Sure, maybe not the best sources but I could understand the reasoning. Not that there can’t be a benefit under the right circumstances.

Anyhoo, just my two cents.
Happy growing, looks good!


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This just so happens to be one of the things I know about! So short answer, no it does not cause hot spots. Yes mirrors can be used in specific applications to focus light but these aren't your regular run of the mill mirror.
Also the light source plays a factor here as well, so does other objects in the room and the design of the room/mirror ect. Also the angle and direction of light to the mirror matters. Light reflects off of your room, objects in the room, and other things that ultimately cause light to travel from said matter to the mirror which changes the way the light is reflected off the mirror.
It goes on and on but the point is none of the light is focused here. Now of course this all changes with each scenario and results vary but as long as you're just allowing the ambient light to bounce of a mirror that isn't focusing on your plant you're good to go.
Here's an article that touches on light and mirrors, and a supporting quote,
"When light hits a flat mirror, it is reflected to our eyes. It is also reflected to the rest of our bodies. It does not bounce perfectly off of our heads, eyes or other body parts facing the mirror. The rays that are refracted from our bodies then hit the mirror at varying angles and are reflected back perfectly. This phenomenon causes mirror images to appear backward to our eyes."
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