Monster crop, light, scrog and PK advice please guys

Hi I got 4 cuttings off a guy who did not tell me he took them in flower.
Monster Crop?
They looked pretty normal until I potted them using Gold 60/40 Coco/clay pebbles in 18ltr square pots.
Put them on 18/6 light schedule.
I sprayed them using Rhizotonic 5 times a day for the first 4 days then
Coco A & B, cannazym and rhizo.
They have grew 10x the size just over 2 weeks but look nothing like cannibis plants.
I've got lots of 600-watt lights and 2 1000 w lights (cool lights)
@2" outtakes and intakes, fan control units etc so temperature is not an issue.
I have booked two areas 4 m by 4 m and 4 m by 2 m so I have got plenty of room and height.
Full canna Coco range of feeds and PK 18/20? Can I use PK 18/20 with canna or is ok 13/14 better?
Can I LST, lollipop monster clones.?
I was hoping to make 4 stations with a plant in each 1. 1000w light 2nd with a 1000w light and the 3rd with 2 X 600w HP's lights and the 4th with 2x 600w lights. I could put more lights as heat no issue but question is if I transplant to 50 or 80 Ltr will I get a bigger yeild? I will veg for asking as necessary. 8-15 weeks. Would I be better using a scrog net above each or just LST them?
If I plan on a scrog net would I need to transplant now as a couple of them are about 8 inches tall and I think they are going to start growing rapidly each day now they are settled.
At the moment I have got one 600-w dual spec HPS light above the 4.
They have so many branches and buds sites I am not sure if I am best letting them grow naturally or LST or scrog to get the best out of them. Also if I use 50 or 80 L and do a long enough bench what is the maximum amount of lights I can put around one plant.
I won a few quid I do not care about cost of power this just something that I want to do whatever the cost even if the cost out with the return. Would it make a difference from using two to 600w lights or three 600-watt lights give me more yield?
I would start up with one light and as I get more branches build up to too late and then before flower and the third light and change the bulbs for flowering HPS.
I have got some bags of bioBizz AllMix would they benefit from any in the bottom of the grow bags when I transplant or mixing a percentage in with the Coco or is that just defeating the object of growing in Coco.?
I do not want a mess this up so if it is better to throw that away and buy more coco then that is what I would rather do but I read on one of the forums on here that you can use canna Coco with biobizz but you have to use half of the amount. If there is a chance I would not get us had dens nuns then I would not use it it.
Any advice would be appreciated thank you.
Currently in the U.S.A living the dream
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I suggest you stop posting multiple threads
My hunch you aren’t good at forums?
Oh and WELCOME to RIU

Too much to read for one thread........way too much for a duplicate thread.

Keep vegging them out and they'll look like normal plants within acouple weeks, they'll be very branchy tho so lst and topping is a good idea and also taking off some of the worthless nodes below and in the middle of the plant is a good idea just to clean it up before flower time and a scrog is definitely a good choice

I'd personally leave them in 18lts thats plenty of root space but each to their own, maybe test it out and use the 50-80 lt also and see if there's much of a difference.

I'd also definitely add a good amount of perlite for a nice airy medium, just coco can have issues if your not careful with watering practices (YOU can definitely 100% overwater in coco for the nah sayers)

Of course more watts will bring more yield but its all about the space , amount of plants , and getting the full potential of the grow room, you'll figure all these things out and that's the joy of learning.

Any pk supplement will be fine, it's how much to use and when , that matters.

Herb & Suds said:

I suggest you stop posting multiple threads
My hunch you aren’t good at forums?
Oh and WELCOME to RIU

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Hi Mate,
Thank you for the advice.
You are right mate I have never been on a forum before.
Panic struck when it looked like I had cabbage plants.
I wrote so much so people new that I new the basics and had success with a few goes but not a clue if I can build the light up to a 1000w and a 600w or 3x 600w over the course.
I need to find out which nodes to cut when the time comes. I will keep posts short and to the point.
I had ADHD and poor social skills so thank you for replying to me.
All the best for Xmas and new year and thanks again

BenGman said:

Keep vegging them out and they'll look like normal plants within acouple weeks, they'll be very branchy tho so lst and topping is a good idea and also taking off some of the worthless nodes below and in the middle of the plant is a good idea just to clean it up before flower time and a scrog is definitely a good choice

I'd personally leave them in 18lts thats plenty of root space but each to their own, maybe test it out and use the 50-80 lt also and see if there's much of a difference.

I'd also definitely add a good amount of perlite for a nice airy medium, just coco can have issues if your not careful with watering practices (YOU can definitely 100% overwater in coco for the nah sayers)

Of course more watts will bring more yield but its all about the space , amount of plants , and getting the full potential of the grow room, you'll figure all these things out and that's the joy of learning.

Any pk supplement will be fine, it's how much to use and when , that matters.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to explain to me mate.
I really appreciate it.
Panic kicked in when i had 4 plants that looked like vegetable plant leafs.
I have ADHD mate I need to think before I post.
First time posting on a forum.
Your info is everything that I needed and I am very greatful.
Thank you

Thank you very much for taking the time to explain to me mate.
I really appreciate it.
Panic kicked in when i had 4 plants that looked like vegetable plant leafs.
I have ADHD mate I need to think before I post.
First time posting on a forum.
Your info is everything that I needed and I am very greatful.
Thank you

I have used the bags of Gold mix 60/40 it says 60 Coco and 40 clay but I put a couple of inches of clay in the bottom and also mixed a few more handfuls in with the mix.
It does not say perlite on the bank but there is about 1 or 2% per lighting it I noticed I will get some more.
I have got a 4m by 4m room with just 18 l do you think I could build up from one 600-watt light and increase to 3x 600-watt lights or do you think that is too much light.
Thank you pal I really appreciate it

3 600w in that space is not enough light coverage really, i run that amount of light in 1.2 m x 2.4 m...so You could run 6x600w in a 4mx4m space easily or at the very least run 4 in each corner would be optimal Shmike, and yes start with 1 light work your way up to 2 then 3 and so forth as they get bigger the more light the better and no worries at all we are all here to help and that's what this forum is suppose to be all about so if anymore questions about znything just post it here so i or someone can get back to you with info as i don't always keep an eye on all post made.

You must get a PH pen if you want to be in the perfect range, no amount of guessing how many drops or ml will help, you will make the situation worse, and have issues...cos as you know adding any extra supplements with Your A&B will change your ph dramatically. I also use canna and during veg i will use about 2-3 drops per gallon usually, tap water is 7.4 here and even more when in flower and specially when using pk13/14 usually 4-5 drops. I find 5.8 being perfect for me throughout my grow.
Hell yes ph down is super concentrated , wear gloves and make sure you don't get a single drop on yourself and wash your hands after every use -(just a heads up) , and sort out a pen or ph strips asap.

Think simple. Build your room to the specifications of the light and then add fans and other things accordingly.

Simplify your feeding, you don't need to spray them with all that crap or use anything except base and a PK booster. Don't fall for the extra bottles they're all snake oil for the most part. I used coco A&B with PK boost for over a year and was getting 2 pounds per/1000w light with ease not using any of the extra bs. Vitamin B is a scam so are most the other products. It's overpriced stuff that "may help" or "may assist" ~says right on the label usually.

Anything that "May" help or "Could" help should be avoided.

KISS Keep It Stupid Simple

The more things you try to tweak and add the more variables you have to deal with.

That is true, i did the same thing every grow except my current one.. i went and got the cannaboost to go with the A+B and pk1314 to see if it's just snake oil or if it will up my yield and quality and honestly I'm doubting it but in 4 weeks will tell the story.