More Rusty Leaves...?

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CakedNugs

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Ok so now not only am I finding rusty leaves on the juicy lucy auto I'm seeing them on a Berry Diesel now too but on the tips.. since last post I've been sure to keep the pots moist and the plants look better overall. I've also been adding more calimag but I'm still seeing these rusty leaves and they are dying off just staying on the plant for the most part. Are they hungry? This is 5th almost 6th week flower. I wanted to go for 11 maybe 12 weeks?
 

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Too much, yeah. But you likely are having ph issues. Prob low. You have some signs of deficiencies and overfeeding. Usually, its ph issues when u see this. Do u know where you're at, ph wise? Are you using microbes?
 
R Burns said:
Too much, yeah. But you likely are having ph issues. Prob low. You have some signs of deficiencies and overfeeding. Usually, its ph issues when u see this. Do u know where you're at, ph wise? Are you using microbes?
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I just moved down to 5.9 pH about a week ago as well as keeping the pots moist vs water when dry. I use recharge and have microbial life in the Coco as well as in my run off. Am I supposed to dump my run off everytime with Coco? Run off is at 5.9 pH what should the ppm be? Mine is 200+ and the x10 is flashing.
 
You need transplant, on the way, remove all or much possible of damaged roots, now get some Aurora roots organic potting mix ORIGINAL FORMULA,
 
Transplant patients
 

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CakedNugs said:
I just moved down to 5.9 pH about a week ago as well as keeping the pots moist vs water when dry. I use recharge and have microbial life in the Coco as well as in my run off. Am I supposed to dump my run off everytime with Coco? Run off is at 5.9 pH what should the ppm be? Mine is 200+ and the x10 is flashing.
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So maybe a bit low, but shouldn't matter with the microbes. The actual ph is a few ticks lower than what run off reads, so maybe shoot for 6/6.1 with the runoff reading. Any chance your water is bad? Maybe effecting the microbe count. Sounds like you should be alright. Temps too low? If your using led this can be a problem for nute uptake. Not sure on the ppm. I just wing it with the nutes. Just rely on my experience. Also don't believe in slamming as much as they can take nute-wise. Might be a micro nute issue. Use anything specific in the regard?
 
My favorite soil was fox farm ocean forest can't even remember, my PH by second week of flower, no matter how I tried was low , after trying roots organic things went way better
 
OZAK47 said:
My favorite soil was fox farm ocean forest can't even remember, my PH by second week of flower, no matter how I tried was low , after trying roots organic things went way better
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Tsp of lime per gallon gets the ocean forest ph right. I know your happy with the roots, but just thought it worth mentioning.
 
5.9 ph ?
very low, microbes and organisms are dead and drowning cause you flushed your soil.
Plus you lightly feed again .
You have to get rid of dead soil, roots and wash containers if using them, replace with live new soil
 
OZAK47 said:
5.9 ph ?
very low, microbes and organisms are dead and drowning cause you flushed your soil.
Plus you lightly feed again .
You have to get rid of dead soil, roots and wash containers if using them, replace with live new soil
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Its coco. Ph is within range, but may help to raise a tick.. Not seeing anything that says transplant. Plus not a great idea in mid flower. Def wouldnt be cutting the rootball.
 
R Burns said:
So maybe a bit low, but shouldn't matter with the microbes. The actual ph is a few ticks lower than what run off reads, so maybe shoot for 6/6.1 with the runoff reading. Any chance your water is bad? Maybe effecting the microbe count. Sounds like you should be alright. Temps too low? If your using led this can be a problem for nute uptake. Not sure on the ppm. I just wing it with the nutes. Just rely on my experience. Also don't believe in slamming as much as they can take nute-wise. Might be a micro nute issue. Use anything specific in the regard?
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I'm using MIGRO cob LEDs and I just found that my temps are pretty low at night so I added a small space heater. The thing with the pH.. I just stopped watering at 6.5 last week. Following this
www.cocoforcannabis.com

Watering Coco - How to Water Cannabis Plants in Coco Coir - Coco For Cannabis

Coco Watering Guide. How to water cannabis in coco for maximum growth. Includes guidelines for coco watering frequency and a coco watering schedule.
www.cocoforcannabis.com www.cocoforcannabis.com
The plants seem to be doing better but I'm starting to see the rust.. would it show up this soon after the pH change? And should I change it back?
 
OZAK47 said:
5.9 ph ?
very low, microbes and organisms are dead and drowning cause you flushed your soil.
Plus you lightly feed again .
You have to get rid of dead soil, roots and wash containers if using them, replace with live new soil
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Bro no offense but you suggesting that I transplant an auto flower this late in flower is ass backwards. Plus I'm using Coco it's not soil. I don't use soil. I'm set up in an attic and in Coco. Oh yeah also.. my microbes are alive and well in my media as well as in the run off.. so about removing the run off. Should I? Anyone?
 
R Burns said:
Tsp of lime per gallon gets the ocean forest ph right. I know your happy with the roots, but just thought it worth mentioning.
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Why can't Ocean Forest put the lime in there? I thought the stuff is supposed to be ready to go. I'm trying my first Ocean Forest grow with no nutes and I don't see anything to brag about yet. I did want to see what the hub bub was about after reading all these Ocean Forest problems threads.
 
CakedNugs said:
I'm using MIGRO cob LEDs and I just found that my temps are pretty low at night so I added a small space heater. The thing with the pH.. I just stopped watering at 6.5 last week. Following this
www.cocoforcannabis.com

Watering Coco - How to Water Cannabis Plants in Coco Coir - Coco For Cannabis

Coco Watering Guide. How to water cannabis in coco for maximum growth. Includes guidelines for coco watering frequency and a coco watering schedule.
www.cocoforcannabis.com www.cocoforcannabis.com
The plants seem to be doing better but I'm starting to see the rust.. would it show up this soon after the pH change? And should I change it back?
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The 6.5 is too high for coco. So you were right in bringing it down, maybe a bit too low. The fluctations explain the inconsistencies. I would get it up to 6.1 and get consistant. The rust is cal deficiency, it is slow to correct. So you may see it for a while. Keep with the cal/mg for at least a few more waterings. Mild doses. Don't try and over do it. You'll cause more harm than good.
 
70's natureboy said:
Why can't Ocean Forest put the lime in there? I thought the stuff is supposed to be ready to go. I'm trying my first Ocean Forest grow with no nutes and I don't see anything to brag about yet. I did want to see what the hub bub was about after reading all these Ocean Forest problems threads.
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I don't even know what ocean Forest is. If this is your first run with it why are you suggesting it to me?
 
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