Most Efficient Commercial Grow Methods

igothydrotoneverywhere

igothydrotoneverywhere

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Lucius Vorenus said:
In Hydroton? Washing all those rocks vs transplanting between coco pots is the question...
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ive ran another warehouse that was 44k watts by myself that was ebb and flow rockwool, its pretty easy but alot can go wrong with the reses, alot of pumping water back and forth, cleaning a giant 70 gallon resevoir isnt fun at all. multiply that task by 20 and you have a big deal. without a couple thousand dollar steamer vac its hell on wheels. i really like the watering once a day. no recircultaing the excrement of the plant back in the root ball, root rot was common with bottom up feeding in hydro ebb and flow as the roots gravitate towards the bottom. maybe a mix of coco, rockwool cubes and perlite with a layer of hydroton on top will be our final answer. everyday, with a drip system, in a rockwool perlite mix with hydroton on top. but top down watering is the best way to go imo. almost impossible to get root rot.
there is a lot of dead space on these flood trays too that always seem to accumulate water and get algea growth and bug reproduction
 
BeaverHuntr

BeaverHuntr

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RemeberMe said:
Igothydrotoneverywhere, funny id because it really is a pain like that :)

Anyway, I do want to get away from dw and hydroton so I'm thinking coco/drip. I've heard coco absorbs magnesium, what's your secret sauce for it?
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pre charge your coco in cal/mag 5ml per gallon .....water + coco coir + cal mag and let that shit marinate in Cal mag for 24 hours... Thats how I used to get rid of the cal/mag deficiency you get with coco.. I dont know how useful it will be in a commercial grow scenario just my two cents.
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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"at home i have used straight hesi coco..." I was betting it was simpler than all the crap they were trying to push.

Big growers must get root rot too. How do you treated it?
 
igothydrotoneverywhere

igothydrotoneverywhere

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RemeberMe said:
"at home i have used straight hesi coco..." I was betting it was simpler than all the crap they were trying to push.

Big growers must get root rot too. How do you treated it?
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i havent had any root rot doing drain to waste,
when i got it doing ebb and flow i used h202, ran it for a day or two in a fresh res, alot of wasted water. recirculating is a pain outside of one op at home, even that is more of a headache for the home grower than drain to waste. drain to waste plus smart pot( or any air pot style i dont like to brand) make root rot a near impossibility
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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So that's coco/perlite using smart pots hand watered with hesi coco and cal/mag 5 ml drain to waste. Sounds simple, lets see how I can screw this up too.

I've had good luck with dwc until lately. I used RO water out of a store machine and have been battling rr since in the last 2 grows (which should have been 4 grows but having to keep tossing grows out). I was hoping the cold weather would have fixed this problem but it keeps coming back even with res temps below 65f.
 
igothydrotoneverywhere

igothydrotoneverywhere

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RemeberMe said:
So that's coco/perlite using smart pots hand watered with hesi coco and cal/mag 5 ml drain to waste. Sounds simple, lets see how I can screw this up too.

I've had good luck with dwc until lately. I used RO water out of a store machine and have been battling rr since in the last 2 grows (which should have been 4 grows but having to keep tossing grows out). I was hoping the cold weather would have fixed this problem but it keeps coming back even with res temps below 65f.
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haha u should be fine, you might have a hard time finding hesi as they are just getting going in america.try growco, hesi is a euro company... the easier quicker option is just getting some gh micro and bloom and ph down and doing a lucus run first? that stuff is available everywhere. 6ml micro, 9ml of bloom. if your growing sativas they wont even need the koolbloom, i got 6 lbs/3000w over 10plants plants planted in only 4 gallon pots of our sativa-dom chemdog using only our modified basic lucas. drain to waste baby
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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I went with canna AB and their coco (all they really had). Canna coco is the fine stuff so even a pot not much bigger than the roots will hold more than a days supply of water (guessing by comments from others). I'm still considering if I should take it back and get coir or a blend. What's your take on this igothydroeverywhere?
 
igothydrotoneverywhere

igothydrotoneverywhere

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RemeberMe said:
I went with canna AB and their coco (all they really had). Canna coco is the fine stuff so even a pot not much bigger than the roots will hold more than a days supply of water (guessing by comments from others). I'm still considering if I should take it back and get coir or a blend. What's your take on this igothydroeverywhere?
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coco and coco coir are the same thing, coir is just the method used for turning it into usable substrate.
we have always used 25% perlite amendment. we used to add it by hand, then we bought royal tupur gold, something that had perlite in it already. then i found a local product from "elevation organics" they sell a coco product with growstones added which basically does the same thing as perlite or hydroton. we use straight coco for new planted clones bc it stays wetter at the root zone longer.
 
Canibitual

Canibitual

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panhead said:
Cannabitual, if you have a problem take it to pm & stop hijacking the guys thread,

Thanks in advance.
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Stop abusing your moderator priv... this is not "that guys thread"... and he's the one that keeps putting it back into small grow ops... instead of reliable and efficent "Commercial Grows"
 
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supadave5000

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I grow in coco pots and have a DTW drip irrigation system with two separate reservoirs (Veg and Bloom), each with their own feed pump and a couple of timers I got at www.skipdaytimer.com. I set the first timer to feed daily and the second to feed every other day. Automation is definitely the way to go! :)
 
Carolina Dream'n

Carolina Dream'n

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theGREENmonster333 said:
sog is way to much work for an operation this size. sog commercial growers are not growing 30 lbs a month. There are commercial growers out there using every method you could imagine.
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SOG is great for commercial production. It is actually less work than vegging out a plant for 8 weeks and training. It's all about your style. Ppl who SCROG spend their time training. Ppl who SOG spend their time cloning. SOG gonna save the commercial grower a lot on power bill. Vegging cost 50% more than flowering. So when you gotta veg a plant for 8 weeks, it yields a lb. or you veg 16 plants for one week, they yield a lb. it cost you drastically less for the lb from 16 plants.
 
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