Most pistols brown but buds not fattening on one of my autos

Retailing

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It will work but you won't get the results you would get from a light that is more suitable for growing.
I did have some pretty bad problems down the line I’m actually lucky to have this one plant alive. Had a really bad ph issue in the 3rd week of veg resulting in bad burns and deficiencies which I managed to fix and I removed the effected leaves. Could this have potentially caused the plant to produce small buds? And with the light I’m just gonna have to take the loss this time round and get a new for the next
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I did have some pretty bad problems down the line I’m actually lucky to have this one plant alive. Had a really bad ph issue in the 3rd week of veg resulting in bad burns and deficiencies which I managed to fix and I removed the effected leaves. Could this have potentially caused the plant to produce small buds? And with the light I’m just gonna have to take the loss this time round and get a new for the next
Yes, any type of setback can negatively impact the yield you get from the plant.
 

hotrodharley

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I would love to hear your take on why coco is bad as well. Please enlighten us.
For a new grower? I’ll bet people have to tell you when to come out of the rain. But again you’re welcome to expound the virtues and wisdom in a newbie choosing autos to grow under a cheap blurple in coco. Please.
 

Snob

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For a new grower? I’ll bet people have to tell you when to come out of the rain. But again you’re welcome to expound the virtues and wisdom in a newbie choosing autos to grow under a cheap blurple in coco. Please.
No. I mean in general. You are making coco sound like the devil. Coco, Soil, Water, they all get the job done. And if you are saying "new" grower, than there is no issue with coco or any other medium for that matter. The issue as you put it is the grower not being privy to the medium they choose.

I tell people not to do DWC as their first grows. But people certainly do, and the ones that do their homework succeed.
 

Attikus112

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I just don’t understand why the other 3 plants have fat dense nugs but this one hasn’t. The plant hasnt stopped growing the pistols are just turning brown, my light is around 14 inches away from the plants
If everything around it looks good then maybe that one plant is just a poor phenotype. Could have had root issues or it might not enjoy the environment or feeding regime but it could also just be a runt. If you're happy with the rest of the plants i would just move on. Sometimes it's just bad luck with the genetics.
 

ComfortCreator

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Wow you can tell who isnt buzzed!

I can answer why as a newbie i avoided coco. Its a pro level medium imo.

Soil is a buffer of all inputs. Even moreso a well built supersoil allows me to grow adding only water, bacteria and occasionally epsom salt.

Coco lets you manipulate the plants metabolism because you are force feeding it what you want to...dont take that comment negatively its a powerful tool for a good grower. It grows a lot faster than soil.

And it has much less tolerance for error...not much buffering mistakes.

As to the OP question my guess is that one strain wants more light than the others, is shorter than the others, or a combination of the two.

OP wear sunglasses in your room and a hat too as needed. You are likely young but dont take eyes for granted!
 

Snob

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Wow you can tell who isnt buzzed!

I can answer why as a newbie i avoided coco. Its a pro level medium imo.

Soil is a buffer of all inputs. Even moreso a well built supersoil allows me to grow adding only water, bacteria and occasionally epsom salt.

Coco lets you manipulate the plants metabolism because you are force feeding it what you want to...dont take that comment negatively its a powerful tool for a good grower. It grows a lot faster than soil.

And it has much less tolerance for error...not much buffering mistakes.

As to the OP question my guess is that one strain wants more light than the others, is shorter than the others, or a combination of the two.

OP wear sunglasses in your room and a hat too as needed. You are likely young but dont take eyes for granted!
I have been using coco since day 1 and have never had any problems. New growers that just YOLO shit without first educating themselves fuck up Soil grows just as bad. Over watering, PH issues ETC..
 

Retailing

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Wow you can tell who isnt buzzed!

I can answer why as a newbie i avoided coco. Its a pro level medium imo.

Soil is a buffer of all inputs. Even moreso a well built supersoil allows me to grow adding only water, bacteria and occasionally epsom salt.

Coco lets you manipulate the plants metabolism because you are force feeding it what you want to...dont take that comment negatively its a powerful tool for a good grower. It grows a lot faster than soil.

And it has much less tolerance for error...not much buffering mistakes.

As to the OP question my guess is that one strain wants more light than the others, is shorter than the others, or a combination of the two.

OP wear sunglasses in your room and a hat too as needed. You are likely young but dont take eyes for granted!
Yeh I mean there’s still white hairs shooting out of the buds I’d say around 60% are brown and 40% are white, she grew different to the rest, had really really long leaves, I’ve never seen leaves like it but she’s still going strong, and I’ve learned my lesson for now as I’ve had much more success with my 2 soil plants than the coco ones, I’ll get some experience with some soil grows then attempt coco again. And yeh she’s a tad smaller than the others
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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I have been using coco since day 1 and have never had any problems. New growers that just YOLO shit without first educating themselves fuck up Soil grows just as bad. Over watering, PH issues ETC..
Take a long hard look in the noob forum. Most of the issues are new growers in coco and soil has been recommended for new growers for a long time because it is a lot more forgiving with mistakes that new growers make. I get it that YOU haven't had any issues with it as a new grower but pretty much every forum is proof that a lot of new growers run into issues with it.
 

Snob

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Take a long hard look in the noob forum. Most of the issues are new growers in coco and soil has been recommended for new growers for a long time because it is a lot more forgiving with mistakes that new growers make. I get it that YOU haven't had any issues with it as a new grower but pretty much every forum is proof that a lot of new growers run into issues with it.
okay. i will agree. Soil is the most easiest medium to start with. But there is still nothing wrong with coco or hydro. As long as you do your homework and have a grasp/understanding of the method chosen.
 

ComfortCreator

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I have been using coco since day 1 and have never had any problems. New growers that just YOLO shit without first educating themselves fuck up Soil grows just as bad. Over watering, PH issues ETC..
That's a darn good point. It was mostly a huge effort i made to educate myself and im sure i could have learned coco in round 1.

But snob my brother, not all are as dedicated and commited as you and me....
 

ComfortCreator

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Yeh I mean there’s still white hairs shooting out of the buds I’d say around 60% are brown and 40% are white, she grew different to the rest, had really really long leaves, I’ve never seen leaves like it but she’s still going strong, and I’ve learned my lesson for now as I’ve had much more success with my 2 soil plants than the coco ones, I’ll get some experience with some soil grows then attempt coco again. And yeh she’s a tad smaller than the others
The question to ask yourself imo is what will give you the best results? As a newbie you want to try to guarantee success as best as possible.

Dont take the comments or criticism personally. You go through a ringer here and become 5x the grower for it.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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okay. i will agree. Soil is the most easiest medium to start with. But there is still nothing wrong with coco or hydro. As long as you do your homework and have a grasp/understanding of the method chosen.
It's just a more advanced method of growing. It would be like handing a person who wants to be an artist an airbrush before teaching them the basics of drawing with a pencil first.
 

Snob

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It's just a more advanced method of growing. It would be like handing a person who wants to be an artist an airbrush before teaching them the basics of drawing with a pencil first.
I am by no means an expert at anything. But I would argue that its like comparing apples to oranges. In Coco you are feeding the roots with salts to deliver nutes. And with Soil, you are feeding the microbes in the soil, so they can break down molecules into ions which the plants can absorb.

You can go pretty far down the nutrition rabbit hole with either medium. I read the other day that they have recently discovered 500 different micro organisms in healthy soil, alot of which are probably missing from your current root zone indoors and you can probably spend the next few years perfecting a healthy living soil environment. But this isnt exactly going to help you transition into coco.

I am a firm believer of practicing exactly what you want to perform. Growing a bunch in soil, is going to give you experince with just that. Growing in Soil.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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And with Soil, you are feeding the microbes in the soil, so they can break down molecules into ions which the plants can absorb.
This is only true in an organic grow. I started out in soil with salt based nutrients which is more comparable to a more forgiving coco grow. I do get what you are saying, though.
 
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