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Heisenberg

Well-Known Member
Well it depends on the personal experiences like I said its my personal experience which has nothing to do with anyone.
China's leaders were imposing their Atheist beliefs on Theist so yes its a divine issue as well a human rights one. And I was talking about SOME Atheist who try and impose their believes on Theist, some of the forums/imageboards I go on if they find out your a Theist they will attempt to impose their beliefs on you or resort to insults. But obviously am not referring to all infact it annoys me when anyone does it whether Theist or Atheist. However I am not debating Atheism vs Theism. I don't care what your beliefs are, the only reason am in this thread is because of prejudice comments I came across regarding Islam if you want to debate about the existence of God start your own thread.
Fair enough and I see we have much common ground between us. If you feel your personal experiences should not be convincing to anyone else, then I have no problem with your position. I feel believers have the right to express and celebrate their beliefs, and even share them with others, as long as they do not demand intellectual respect. In short, that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. I assure you that on this particular sub-forum you will not find much tolerance for inappropriate conduct no matter the ideological position behind it, though we may argue about what is inappropriate now and again.

As for China or any state imposing atheism, it is wrong. My point is, it is wrong anytime someone oppresses human rights. The fact that it's atheism doesn't make it any more or less wrong. There is nothing in the atheist ideology in and of itself to impose on anyone because atheism is without content. It is simply the refusal to accept an argument. Knowing someone is atheist tells you nothing more about them. There can be no atheist beliefs, because atheism is the lack of a belief and nothing more. To have an atheist state, you must add in factors which eclipse the position of atheism, such as oppression. This type of behavior is a reflection of fascism not atheism.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
How are you influenced by religion everyday?
I personally am not, anymore, because I've recognized the ways society has influenced life, work, play. Everything. I've seen it and dismissed it, even at the ripe age of 24. It's very easy to see the game if you're paying attention and researching history. People within power, and with the capability of retaining and achieving more power seek to impose the will that will ensure their reign continuously. Think about it, think of the odds a president would exist, then 20 years later his SON would hold the exact same position, that is, the most powerful person in the "free world"... What are the odds, what is the likelyhood?

It's OBVIOUS there is a set of rules, guidelines, in place. We're very young as a species, but we need to recognize when this stuff happens, we can't be so ignorant as to fool ourselves of what's really going on...


Actually since I think your from America it might be different but in Europe I am not influenced in the slightest.
I can't speak for Europe, but American culture is completely controlled by religion. Perhaps that's why it doesn't really change.. European politicians should put pressure on American politicians... It's goddamn embarrassing to see our "leaders" ask permission from invisible beings. You guys should stand up and say "are you fucking kidding me? You're the largest grossing domestic GDP in the world and you're subordinate to invisible fairy tales?! How the fuck is this even possible? Grow the fuck up, grow some balls, tell all the retards in your country to shut the fuck up, sit down and hold onto the safety rails so they don't fall out of the cart, again, since I know you're going to stand up and bitch, just shut the fuck up, sit down, shut the fuck up, close your mouth, open your mind, understand science, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up again, and finally, shut the fuck up, one last time, and let the smart people run the country, because you're too stupid to. You think magic man in the sky dun it, shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down. Take the antibiotics that we created, use the computer that we developed, and simply shut the fuck up, because you're too retarded to understand how reality works. You're an obstacle, you're the problem. SHUT THE FUCK UP! Let daddy do the work. Turn your brain off. UUUUGH!"

edit: ^ I wrote that when I was drunk, re-read it just now, thought it was kinda funny... so I'll just leave it...

Promoting a non-belief can be done like China did by restricting religion and discriminating against them.

That's promoting nationalism, not atheism.


Well it depends on the personal experiences like I said its my personal experience which has nothing to do with anyone.
How would that be useful to someone?

China's leaders were imposing their Atheist beliefs on Theist

How were Chinese leaders imposing their "atheist beliefs" on theists?
 

WileyCoyote

Active Member
Did he die from the religion we are talking about, we are talking about Islam in a topic titled Muslims. Right?.....

I'm glad he opened up to us, he has passion. It's not like he is a suicide bomber blowing women and children up in a market place. It's just words hunny....Isn't America great?
Thanks...I condone NO violence whatsoever...not even in retalliation...well, almost none...
 

WileyCoyote

Active Member
I am fifty years old and have had a plateful of personal and familial tragedy; yes indeed. There is simply no percentage in choosing not to recover. That is something I believe. You otoh value your anger enough to propagate it and allow it to be the engine of your perception. I see neither wisdom nor beauty in that.

I won't ask you your age, since it has zero relevance. I'm guessing your age is close to mine if you have children who remember that awful day. But I am honestly counseling abandoning your anger; it's done its job and then some, imo. Is it possible that you're holding onto it out of force of habit? It will hurt to seek change; I respect that. But I do believe that the benefit is worth the act of courage, of facing the pain leading to closure, needed to set your anger aside. cn
Yes, you and I are the exact same age.

Do you think I like to feel this way? We don't always choose how we feel. I've tried to move on many times. Maybe I will suceed one day.
 

WileyCoyote

Active Member
your story is made up. this is the internet after all.

since this is the internet, i should mention that i was on the 72nd floor of tower 2 when the plane hit. i singlehandedly carried 18 helpless babies down those flights of stairs and then punched a terrorist in a fist fight who was trying to stop my progress. when i got down i delivered the babies to their mothers one by one, banging each babie's mama along the way, then i kicked a superbowl winning field goal from 115 yards out.
You know not what you are tralking about.

OK, let's ASSUME for one moment that my wife did not die in that plane crash...I would feel about the same as I do now because many wives died in those plane crashes...what hole did you crawl out of?
 

WileyCoyote

Active Member
Don't feel bad Heisenberg, every time Wiley starts one of his bigoted rants, and start loosing (which happens almost immediately), he whips out his dead wife and kids.

Wiley is like some sad little school kid who behaves badly to get attention and then when he gets called out for it, plays a victim card to make those confronting him feel guilty.

I sincerely hope Wiley is full of shit about his wife dying in 911, because if he's not, I can only imagine how embarrassed and humiliated his wife would be if she saw that she was being used to defend this bigoted screed.


Oh, and I like how Wiley who admits to hating on 1.6 billion people calls you a prejudice bastard... that's truly epic hypocrisy.
I think you and I could be friends one day.
 

jessy koons

New Member
Are you a radical Muslim? How do you feel about suicide bombers? Or suicide pilots?
Mr. Coyote, please turn off the Fox news channel and step away from the TV. You should start feeling better right away.
Now to your questions: Yes I am a radical muslim, I will often put peanut butter and bacon on my pancakes for breakfast. How does that scare you? I used to be a christian but I found that to be too peaceful of a philosophy so I went with something I could really sink my teeth into. I like chanting and I really like the architecture of the mosques so here I am.
When you are walking down the street and you see one of us you should know that if we look at you we are considering the quickest way to kill you and we are wondering if your daughter is home alone. Just thought you'd like to know.
We only use suicide bombers when we don't have any money to buy really good weapons from the US government.
As for suicide pilots, I don't know I still need to think about that one. I guess one good outcome is that one of us killed you wife so you won't be breeding with her anymore and producing more of you but I think removal of your sack would have worked well too.
Hava nice day, whitebread.
 

WileyCoyote

Active Member
Mr. Coyote, please turn off the Fox news channel and step away from the TV. You should start feeling better right away.
Now to your questions: Yes I am a radical muslim, I will often put peanut butter and bacon on my pancakes for breakfast. How does that scare you? I used to be a christian but I found that to be too peaceful of a philosophy so I went with something I could really sink my teeth into. I like chanting and I really like the architecture of the mosques so here I am.
When you are walking down the street and you see one of us you should know that if we look at you we are considering the quickest way to kill you and we are wondering if your daughter is home alone. Just thought you'd like to know.
We only use suicide bombers when we don't have any money to buy really good weapons from the US government.
As for suicide pilots, I don't know I still need to think about that one. I guess one good outcome is that one of us killed you wife so you won't be breeding with her anymore and producing more of you but I think removal of your sack would have worked well too.
Hava nice day, whitebread.
Do you think there's anything original you can say that I haven't heard before? Not hardly. You are just one of many peons that have tried to rile me up over the years.

BTW, it took 5 of you to kill my wife. 5 cowards like you who are NOT enjoying virgins in heaven right now.

But I really think you and I could be friends one day. You seem like a nice person. And I really mean that.

In the mean time, fuck Muslims. And I really mean that.

My wife left behind 3 lovely, smart daughters (triplets - all in Ivey League schools now on scholarship - who wouldn't even give you the time of day), and one strong son (a Navy Seal now - who would love to meet you in a dark alley); all are remarkable testaments to her memory. Neither you or anyone in your family will ever be qualified to even wash their clothes.

But go ahead and insult them, or their mother again. It makes me feel sorry for you. I wish you well.
 

jessy koons

New Member
Do you think there's anything original you can say that I haven't heard before? Not hardly. You are just one of many peons that have tried to rile me up over the years.

BTW, it took 5 of you to kill my wife. 5 cowards like you who are NOT enjoying virgins in heaven right now.

But I really think you and I could be friends one day. You seem like a nice person. And I really mean that.

In the mean time, fuck Muslims. And I really mean that.

My wife left behind 3 lovely, smart daughters (triplets - all in Ivey League schools now on scholarship - who wouldn't even give you the time of day), and one strong son (a Navy Seal now - who would love to meet you in a dark alley); all are remarkable testaments to her memory. Neither you or anyone in your family will ever be qualified to even wash their clothes.

But go ahead and insult them, or their mother again. It makes me feel sorry for you. I wish you well.
Mr. Coyote, thank you for your thoughtful post I appreciate it very much. You see not many people like me so any attention, even dishonest, angry interaction is warmly embraced. I will respond to the most interesting statements that you posted.

They are actually enjoying virgins right now, you are very wrong about that.

I don't think that we could be friends, you seem like an inherently dishonest person.

My family has never been in the laundry business so your lovely daughters and your burly, heavily armed son will have to do their own washing. ( hot for whites-cold for colors )

I don't believe that you feel sorry for me or wish me well. I do believe you just slap those trite sentiments on the backend of your rant to create a veneer of sensitivity that acts as a girdle to hold in you rage.

As an end cap to this I must ask you. Why do you bother with all this?
 

WileyCoyote

Active Member
Mr. Coyote, thank you for your thoughtful post I appreciate it very much. You see not many people like me so any attention, even dishonest, angry interaction is warmly embraced. I will respond to the most interesting statements that you posted.

They are actually enjoying virgins right now, you are very wrong about that.

I don't think that we could be friends, you seem like an inherently dishonest person.

My family has never been in the laundry business so your lovely daughters and your burly, heavily armed son will have to do their own washing. ( hot for whites-cold for colors )

I don't believe that you feel sorry for me or wish me well. I do believe you just slap those trite sentiments on the backend of your rant to create a veneer of sensitivity that acts as a girdle to hold in you rage.

As an end cap to this I must ask you. Why do you bother with all this?
Because it's true. Do you know anything about the truth?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
jessy koons, if we were both gay, we'd have to have some excellent radical muslim-y sex. i nearly had an orgasm reading those replies.

i lol'd hard. enjoy the rep.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
My wife left behind 3 lovely, smart daughters (triplets - all in Ivey League schools now on scholarship - who wouldn't even give you the time of day), and one strong son (a Navy Seal now - who would love to meet you in a dark alley); all are remarkable testaments to her memory. Neither you or anyone in your family will ever be qualified to even wash their clothes.

And I bet your inlaws are the King and Queen of Hungary too, huh?
 
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