My 8hr flowering experiment

torontoke

torontoke

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So I got the shipping info on the tents. Supposed to be on the way but we shall see.
I ordered a 4x8x6 and a 4x4x6
Plan to start seedlings in my cab then veg in the 4' and flower in the 8.
After the first cycle through I'll switch the lil cab back to seedlings,breeding and males.

Now I'm pumped to see how many square 3gals I can cram in that 8foot tent. Should be fun
I can almost smell it already.
My legal plant count will be 28 so now I need to figure out the best way to break that into a successful routine.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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torontoke said:
So I got the shipping info on the tents. Supposed to be on the way but we shall see.
I ordered a 4x8x6 and a 4x4x6
Plan to start seedlings in my cab then veg in the 4' and flower in the 8.
After the first cycle through I'll switch the lil cab back to seedlings,breeding and males.

Now I'm pumped to see how many square 3gals I can cram in that 8foot tent. Should be fun
I can almost smell it already.
My legal plant count will be 28 so now I need to figure out the best way to break that into a successful routine.
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7x4=28 or seven stages of four plants each, so I'd do 3 week rotations in a perpetual cycle, 1 cycle for clones, 3 for veg and 3 for bloom.

If you want smaller plants more often, you could try 2 week cycles, 3 in clone/veg and 4 in bloom. That seems pretty tight to me tho.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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I was thinking 9+9+9
Alternate chopping 3 or 4 plants every month. Should allow the plants to have a 5week veg on average if the Ol foggy brain is doin the math right.
5weeks of veg should give me a couple zips a plant minimum.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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Bodhi tester with absolutely zero side growth. Unusual nose kind of reminds me of black licorice with punch.
Going to pop the last 4 beans as soon as I get settled after the move.
I'll then try topping them early and often to see if I can force some branching.

The d cure is starting to gain some weight and both are now starting to frost upimage.jpeg
Not bad for 19 days
 
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JDMase

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torontoke said:
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Bodhi tester with absolutely zero side growth. Unusual nose kind of reminds me of black licorice with punch.
Going to pop the last 4 beans as soon as I get settled after the move.
I'll then try topping them early and often to see if I can force some branching.

The d cure is starting to gain some weight and both are now starting to frost upView attachment 3835142
Not bad for 19 days
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Looking good, can you recap what you're hoping to do and to achieve? There's so many pages now, it's hard to keep up :cool::bigjoint:
 
torontoke

torontoke

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JDMase said:
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Looking good, can you recap what you're hoping to do and to achieve? There's so many pages now, it's hard to keep up :cool::bigjoint:
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Lol I don't blame u
I started out trying a 6/18 flower schedule to see if the joe Pietri article from an old skunk magazine e article was full of shit or possible.
The 6/18 plants were disappointing and I tried 8/16 next and have stuck with it. Next I switched to using 12:1 for veg and then 8/16 to flower and this is were I journal it and have people tell me it won't work or that the potentcy will be crap.
And that is the Coles notes version lol
I guess the goal is maximum efficiency as I'm not a cash cropper.
I try to grow as much "good" stuff as possible for as cheap as possible with as little energy usage as possible.
 
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JDMase

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torontoke said:
Lol I don't blame u
I started out trying a 6/18 flower schedule to see if the joe Pietri article from an old skunk magazine e article was full of shit or possible.
The 6/18 plants were disappointing and I tried 8/16 next and have stuck with it. Next I switched to using 12:1 for veg and then 8/16 to flower and this is were I journal it and have people tell me it won't work or that the potentcy will be crap.
And that is the Coles notes version lol
I guess the goal is maximum efficiency as I'm not a cash cropper.
I try to grow as much "good" stuff as possible for as cheap as possible with as little energy usage as possible.
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It sounds reasonable, if my outdoors ones hadnt had mould they would've been on an 8/16 and there's a bloke in Ireland that grew some massive plants right up to the end of last month. Most of the flowering would've been less than 12 hours by September time I believe. I think it's worth a go.
I have wondered if 12/12 is the holy grail it's made out to be.. Most people say 24/0 works for autos but every one of mine hated it.
I think the best thing we can do is imitate nature!
 
torontoke

torontoke

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JDMase said:
It sounds reasonable, if my outdoors ones hadnt had mould they would've been on an 8/16 and there's a bloke in Ireland that grew some massive plants right up to the end of last month. Most of the flowering would've been less than 12 hours by September time I believe. I think it's worth a go.
I have wondered if 12/12 is the holy grail it's made out to be.. Most people say 24/0 works for autos but every one of mine hated it.
I think the best thing we can do is imitate nature!
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That's my belief aswell
I hate when old diehard growers say it won't work because we are supposed to mimic the sun! Where on earth is the sun out 12/12 consistently for 60-70days cus fuk the plants I'd move there and live off of solar.
I've smoked up many a naysayer over the last little while and they start to listen once their eyes start to close.
12/12 is not the only way
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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torontoke said:
That's my belief aswell
I hate when old diehard growers say it won't work because we are supposed to mimic the sun! Where on earth is the sun out 12/12 consistently for 60-70days cus fuk the plants I'd move there and live off of solar.
I've smoked up many a naysayer over the last little while and they start to listen once their eyes start to close.
12/12 is not the only way
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Pack your solar panels and move- to the equator. 12/12 or very nearly so year round.

That said, you already know I think your work is valuable.

Plus, the way you have your schedules set up, you'd only need to run off battery power for the thirty to sixty minutes for the gaslight interval in veg at night. All the rest can easily be handled by solar.
 
torontoke

torontoke

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ttystikk said:
Pack your solar panels and move- to the equator. 12/12 or very nearly so year round.

That said, you already know I think your work is valuable.

Plus, the way you have your schedules set up, you'd only need to run off battery power for the thirty to sixty minutes for the gaslight interval in veg at night. All the rest can easily be handled by solar.
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Lol thanks tty
I like being called out on my exaggerations lol
Yes I'm sure there's a few places on the planet lucky enough to get actual 12/12 but it doesn't change my perspective that using that as a starting point for arguing schedules is illogical and a tad short sighted.
I'm glad u find what I do valuable and I feel the same watching you push boundaries with what u do but my days of arguing and trying to sell people are done.
There are a billion people out there and every single one thinks they are smarter then the guy next them.
 
andy s

andy s

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Looks good my man why wouldn't people wanna save some money and maintain potency doubt you'll lose potency! Sounds great to me. Losing a couple grams for some tighter frostier buds isn't anything to complain about. That would be the only drawback if that's what people were concerned about. As long as I get some bomb I feel it's worth my time. I'll be following Bc I've debated doing 10 hours this run to save some money but if 8 works in game :)
 
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JDMase

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My belief is that slowly reducing hours towards the end of the cycle would speed up flowering times, as in nature shorter days mean less time to reproduce, right?. I read about it previously and since then I've wanted to try it. When I next run photos im going to give it a go. I think maybe reducing an hour a day from your 20/4 or 18/6 down to your 12/12 then to something like an 8/16 once flowering is underway.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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JDMase said:
My belief is that slowly reducing hours towards the end of the cycle would speed up flowering times, as in nature shorter days mean less time to reproduce, right?. I read about it previously and since then I've wanted to try it. When I next run photos im going to give it a go. I think maybe reducing an hour a day from your 20/4 or 18/6 down to your 12/12 then to something like an 8/16 once flowering is underway.
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I see no advantage to a slow transition. I've tried it, just got less yield.

I'm interested in an 8 hour high intensity day cycle and 16 hour dark because of the possible three way split of a given amp load. If yield loss is low vs 12/12 then maybe this is an efficiency boosting tactic.
 
haulinbass

haulinbass

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I tried something like this a few years ago but was doing 8 hr days and nights but abandoned it do to having to manually control the lights. couldn't find a countdown timer to flip the lights every 8 hours. the plants were flowering but no idea if the flowering cycle could be done 1/3rd faster which was the original point of the experiment.
Glad to see others trying there own experiments with light cycles
 
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