My CFL Lowryder 2 grow - first grow!

jackonthebox

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Nice looking plants!! If you're stilling having a problem with the light timing because of no timer, I know a lot of people put their plants in 24/48 hour complete darkness right before they chop so might consider that... just a suggestion.
 

QueenBee

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That would be an idea but G is a few days behind so G and C will need longer, and then hopefully my new seeds will arrive and theyl be going straight in there! Im going to do the next lot in stages, like 4 seeds first then a week later another 2 and so on, just to keep it interesting lol and maybe theyl get more light if theyr not all massive, dont know, we'l see how that one goes. Im going to start rambling so Im off to bed, night all
 

QueenBee

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I got my Automatic White Russian seeds today! Very quick service! So Im starting a new journal for them, Id love everyone to check in from time to time and help make my next grow just as fun!


https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/115825-auto-white-russian-white-widow.html


Anyway heres the pic of my drying box as promised, not that its very exciting to look at. Those 2 buds have been hanging since Tuesday night. I think a bit more of A will be getting the chop tonight as its day 60 for her, Ill leave some a bit longer and Im not chopping any off C or G yet.
 

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QueenBee

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Theyre doing good! I havnt cut anymore off A yet, Ill maybe give it another day or two. G's leaves have started dying now. C's pistils are taking their time going brown so she needs a little while yet. C is very crystally tho.

Pics are A, A, C, C, C, G
 

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QueenBee

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Well theres been a bit of excitement tonight. After watching some of those ready set grow vids on youtube (thanks mr west) I decided to give them a good flush so Ive had them all in the bath drenching them through with water! Wish Id done this more often to get rid of all the bad stuff building up. I tried not to get too much run off before to keep my cupboard dry. Ill try regular flushing next time tho.

When I was doing this I noticed that C's pistils are mostly brown and the leaves up at the top near the bud were going brown. I dont like the idea of smoking leaves that are brown, what if theyre diseased? Will it be harmful? So I cut the top off her, hoping to stop the spread of this leaf browning. She does actually look ready now tho so I might only leave her another day or two but Id like to try give the flushing a teeny bit of a chance to work. The first pic shows the top of C hanging up. I think it looks bigger than it is tho coz its not very densely packed and there are lots of leaves still on. I got my fingers sticky as hell just pulling a few leaves off. It was like glue and I had to scrub my fingers about 5 times!

A still has a few white pistils so she can have another day or few.

G is surprisingly nice. I didnt get to see much of her but when I took her out she has some nice buds and lots of her pistils are brown. So lots of hervesting to come soon! I wish I had a microscope but funds dont allow at the mo. Im having to judge by time and the colour of the pistils. Its been nearly 9 weeks now tho.

Pics are drying box, A and C, C, C, G, G
 

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wwbang

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Really impressive so far well done for sticking with it!

I'm planning to start a grow with 125W CFL but thinking now it may not be enough :/
 

brendon420

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where did you get the sockets for your 150watt cfls?, i have one and it is funking huge and i cant find a mogul socket for it anywhere! any ideas?
 

mr west

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never wash off the sticky residue hun u can make finger hash out of it, jus rub it off into little balls and save it up till u have enough to fill a bowel or make a worm to put in a joint. Finger hash fucks u up lol, i love it. yeah its now u should be aware of bud rot which can start wen the leaves die and are not removed from the bud
 

hmmm123

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Or if your a bit OCD like me then wear gloves lol, i have ome bright blue surgical ones!

never wash off the sticky residue hun u can make finger hash out of it, jus rub it off into little balls and save it up till u have enough to fill a bowel or make a worm to put in a joint. Finger hash fucks u up lol, i love it. yeah its now u should be aware of bud rot which can start wen the leaves die and are not removed from the bud
 

QueenBee

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I dont think it would have been possible to rub my fingers together and mae a ball! Ive been wondering if to get some sugar paper to rest them on when im playing with the buds. Then the sugar paper will get covered and I can eat it or make cookies with it! Just a random thought.
So, mr west, should I pick off the dying leaves on the plants?

Really impressive so far well done for sticking with it!

I'm planning to start a grow with 125W CFL but thinking now it may not be enough :/

Hmmm123 did great with just one 125w CFL but then she only had one plant. I think it should be plenty for one plant maybe even two?




where did you get the sockets for your 150watt cfls?, i have one and it is funking huge and i cant find a mogul socket for it anywhere! any ideas?

I got my socket with the bulb when I bought it on ebay. You can get the sockets from ebay by themselves, think the cheapest ones are about £8 or something
 

mr west

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i regularly prune any dead matter on my plants once its dead it starts to decompose and thats where mould starts and bud rot
 

hmmm123

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Take the dead leaves off now! Wish i had off! But i left a few of the little ones one cos they where not complety dead and where really frosty, bad idea wish i hadn't know after just checking Trinity :(

i regularly prune any dead matter on my plants once its dead it starts to decompose and thats where mould starts and bud rot
 

QueenBee

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Yesterday I chopped down C because all her pistils were brown and Im getting more and more worried about bud rot. So A also came down today. Im leaving G for now because she still has a few white pistils but now her leaves are going brown (took the dead leaves off). So pics are the drying boxes. The first two pics are C, the next two are A then G all by herself in the cupboard! It looks like A has produced more although its hard to compare coz C's buds have dried a bit and shrunk a little. Also, I found a seed! Yay! On A which is good coz I actually think I like her the best after C's dissapointing non-bud-swelling. Do I need to let the seed dry or can I plant it straight away? There wasnt any more seeds in the area so I dont think Ive ruined the bud. I hope I get a few more seeds tho. Ive now got the buds in the boxes by the fire (which isnt on all the time) which Im hoping will dry it a bit quicker. The bits I cut off A a few days ago still arnt properley dry so its not drying too quick so Im hoping it will be an OK smoke, but Im more concerned about getting it dry and safe than the taste.
 

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mr west

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yeah better safe than sorry, i think the drying is one of the hardest parts lol im soo impatent lol i smoke half mine uncured lol
 

wackymack

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dont cure and dry in the light,u want it to be dryed and cured in the dark,light degrades and breaks down the active thc,the dark converts and activates the nonthc into active thc.

read this please...

Marijuana

Cannabinoids (THC, CBD, CBN...)



The Active Ingredients Of Cannabis

Cannabis products include marijuana, hashish, and hashish oil.
THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) gets a user high, a larger THC content will produce a stronger high. Without THC you don't get high.
CBD (Cannabidiol) increases some of the effects of THC and decreases other effects of THC. High levels of THC and low levels of CBD contribute to a strong, clear headed, more energetic high.
Cannabis that has a high level of both THC and CBD will produce a strong head-stone that feels almost dreamlike. Cannabis that has low levels of THC and high levels of CBD produces more of a buzz or stoned feeling. The mind feels dull and the body feels tired.
CBN (Cannabinol) is produced as THC ages and breaks down, this process is known as oxidization. High levels of CBN tend to make the user feel messed up rather than high.
CBN levels can be kept to a minimum by storing cannabis products in a dark, cool, airtight environment. Marijuana should be dry prior to storage, and may have to be dried again after being stored somewhere that is humid.
THCV (Tetrahydrocannabivarin) is found primarily in strains of African and Asian cannabis. THCV increases the speed and intensity of THC effects, but also causes the high to end sooner. Weed that smells strong (prior to smoking) might indicate a high level of THCV.
CBC (Cannabichromene) is probably not psychoactive in pure form but is thought to interact with THC to enhance the high.
CBL (Cannabicyclol) is a degradative product like CBN. Light converts CBC to CBL.
If you are a grower, you can experiment with different strains of cannabis to produce the various qualities you seek. A medical user looking for something with sleep inducing properties might want to produce a crop that has high levels of CBD.
Another user looking for a more energetic stone will want to grow a strain that has high levels of THC and low levels of CBD. In general, Cannabis sativa has lower levels of CBD and higher levels of THC. Cannabis indica has higher amounts of CBD and lower amounts of THC than sativa. See marijuana strains.


For a more scientific description, see below for an excerpt from marijuana growers guide by Mel Frank.
Cannabis is unique in many ways. Of all plants, it is the only genus known to produce chemical substances known as herbal cannabinoids. These cannabinoids are the psychoactive ingredients of marijuana; they are what get you high, buzzed, or stoned. By 1974, there were 37 naturally occurring cannabinoids that had been discovered.
There are 3 types of cannabinoids:
--- Herbal: occur naturally only in the cannabis plant
--- Endogenous: produced naturally by humans and other animals
--- Synthetic: cannabinoids produced in a lab
Most of the cannabinoids appear in very small amounts (less than .01 percent of total cannabinoids) and are not considered psychoactive, or else not important to the high. Many are simply homologues or analogues (similar structure or function) to the few major cannabinoids which are listed.
There are several numbering systems used for cannabinoids. The system used here is based on formal chemical rules for numbering pyran compounds (any of a class of organic compounds of the heterocyclic series in which five carbon atoms and one oxygen atom are present in a ring structure). Another common system is used more by Europeans and is based on a monoterpenoid system which is more useful considering the biogenesis of the compound.


Tetrahydrocannabinol - THC

Delta 9-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol - delta-9 THC is the main psychotomimetic (mindbending) ingredient of marijuana. Estimates state that 70 to 100 percent of the marijuana high results from the delta-9 THC present. It occurs in almost all cannabis in concentrations that vary from traces to about 95 percent of all the cannabinoids in the sample.
In very potent strains, carefully prepared marijuana can be 30 percent delta-9 THC by dry weight (seeds and stems removed from flowering buds). Buds are the popular name given to masses of female flowers that form distinct clusters.
Delta 8-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol - delta-8 THC is reported in low concentration, less than one percent of the delta-9 THC present. Its activity is slightly less than that of delta-9 THC. It may be an artefact of the extraction/analysis process. Almost everyone who uses the term THC, refers to delta-9 THC and delta-8 THC combined, as THC.


Cannabidiol - CBD

Cannabidiol - CBD also occurs in almost all strains. Concentration range from none, to about 95 percent of the total cannabinoids present. THC and CBD are the two most abundant naturally occurring cannabinoids. CBD is not psychotomimetic in the pure form, although it does have sedative, analgesic, and antibiotic properties.
In order for CBD to affect the high, THC must be present in quantities ordinarily psychoactive. CBD can contribute to the high by interacting with THC to potentiate (enhance) or antagonize (interfere or lessen) certain qualities of the high.
CBD appears to potentiate the depressant effects of THC and antagonize is excitatory effects. CBD also delays the onset of the high but can make it last considerably longer (as much as twice as long). The kind of grass that takes a while to come on but keeps coming on.
Opinions are conflicting as to whether it increases or decreases the intensity of the high, intensity and high being difficult to define. Terms such as knock-out or sleepy, dreamlike, or melancholic are often used to describe the high from grass with sizeable proportions of CBD and THC.
When only small amounts of THC are present with high proportions of CBD, the high is more of a buzz, and the mind feels dull and the body de-energized.


Cannabinol - CBN

Cannabinol - CBN is not produced by the plant per se. It is the degradation (oxidative) product of THC. Fresh samples of marijuana contain very little CBN but curing, poor storage, or processing such as when making hashish, can cause much of the THC to be oxidized to CBN. Pure forms of CBN have at most 10 percent of the psychoactivity of THC.
Like CBD, it is suspected of potentiating certain aspects of the high, although so far these effects appear to be slight. CBN seems to potentiate THC's disorienting qualities. One may feel more dizzy or drugged or generally messed up but not necessarily higher.
In fact, with a high proportion of CBN, the high may start well but feels as if it never quite reaches its peak, and when coming down one feels tired or sleepy. High CBN in homegrown grass is not desirable since it represents a loss of 90 percent of the psychoactivity of its precursor THC.


Tetrahydrocannabivarin - THCV

Tetrahydrocannabivarin - THCV or THV is the propyl homologue of THC. In the aromatic ring the usual five-carbon pentyl is replaced by a short three-carbon propyl chain. The propyl cannabinoids have so far been found in some strains originating from Southeast and Central Asia and parts of Africa.
In one study, THCV made up to 48.23 percent (Afghanistan strain) and 53.69 percent (South Africa) of the cannabinoids found. We've seen no reports on its activity in humans. From animal studies it appears to be much faster in onset and quicker to dissipate than THC. It may be the constituent of one or two toke grass, but its activity appears to be somewhat less than that of THC. Some people use the term THC to refer collectively to delta-9 THC, delta-8 THC, and THCV.
An interesting note is that people who have a prescription for Marinol (synthetic medical THC) may be tested for THCV. Marinol contains no THCV, if a person tests positive it means they have been using marijuana, or another cannabis product. This is usually sufficient grounds to terminate the prescription of a person who has signed a contract not to ingest any cannabis while taking Marinol.


Cannabichromene - CBC

Cannabichromene - CBC is another major cannabinoid, although it is found in smaller concentrations than CBD and THC. It was previously believed that is was a minor constituent, but more exacting analysis showed that the compound often reported as CBD may actually be CBC.
Relative to THC and CBD, its concentration in the plants is low, probably not exceeding 20 percent of total cannabinoids. CBC is believed not to be psychotomimetic in humans; however, its presence in plants is purportedly very potent has led to the suspicion that it may be interacting with THC to enhance the high.


Cannabicyclol - CBL

Cannabicyclol (CBL) is a degradative product like CBN. During extraction, light converts CBC to CBL. There are no reports on its activity in humans, and it is found in small amounts, if at all, in fresh plant material.


Cannabinoids And The High

The marijuana high is a complex experience. It involves a wide range of psychical, physical, and emotional responses. The high is a subjective experience based in the individual and one's personality, mood, disposition, and experience with the drug.
Given the person, the intensity of the high depends primarily on the amount of THC present in the marijuana. Delta-9 THC is the main ingredient of marijuana and must be present in sufficient quantities for a good marijuana high.
People who smoke grass that has very little cannabinoids other than delta-9 THC usually report that the high is very intense. Most people that don't smoke daily will feel something from a joint having delta-9 THC of 3 percent concentration to material.
Cannabis products having a THC concentration of 5-10 percent would be considered good, 10-25 percent would be considered very good, and over 25 percent would be excellent quality by daily users standards. In general, we use potency to mean the sum effects of the cannabinoids and the overall high induced.
Marijuana is sometimes rated more potent than the content of delta-9 THC alone would suggest. It also elicits qualitatively different highs. The reasons for this have not been sorted out. Few clinical studies with known combinations of several cannabinoids have been undertaken with human subjects.
So far, different highs and possibly higher potency seem to be due to the interaction of delta-9 THC and other cannabinoids (THCV,CBD,CBN, and possibly CBC). Except for THCV, in the pure form, these other cannabinoids do not have much psychoactivity.
Another possibility for higher potency is that homologues of delta-9 THC with longer side chains at C-3 (and higher activity) might be found in certain marijuana strains.
Compounds with longer side chains have been made in laboratories and their activity is sometimes much higher, with estimates over 500 times that of natural delta-9 THC.
The possibility that there are non-cannabinoids that are psychoactive or interacting with the cannabinoids has not been investigated in detail. Non-cannabinoids with biological activity have been isolated from the plants, but only in very small quantities.
None are known to be psychotomimetic. However, they may contribute to the overall experience in non-mental ways, such as the stimulation of the appetite.
Different blends of cannabinoids account for the different qualities of intoxication produced by different strains of cannabis. The intensity of the high depends primarily on the amount of delta-9 THC present and on the method of ingestion.
A complex drug such as marijuana affects the mind and body in many ways. Sorting out what accounts for what response can become quite complex.
 
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