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Dick Moser

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wow...i mean...wow....i had no idea so many of you had so a vast and interesting knowledge of how the ENTIRE world produces and markets the sell of drugs conditioned with mdma. i retract my prior statement and want poo splatter filth to be viewed along with all my future statements due to the blinding light of your knowledge. you sirs and madams are scholars and nah, though others may disagree, i say gods among men. bravo...handclaps for all.....does something smell like douch to you...

p.s. mdma...kinda foul you hyped up raver homos, over played

p.p.s i read back through this and am still AMAZED at how good i feeeeeeel
 

Tenner

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wow...i mean...wow....i had no idea so many of you had so a vast and interesting knowledge of how the ENTIRE world produces and markets the sell of drugs conditioned with mdma. i retract my prior statement and want poo splatter filth to be viewed along with all my future statements due to the blinding light of your knowledge. you sirs and madams are scholars and nah, though others may disagree, i say gods among men. bravo...handclaps for all.....does something smell like douch to you...

p.s. mdma...kinda foul you hyped up raver homos, over played

p.p.s i read back through this and am still AMAZED at how good i feeeeeeel
Round 2, FIGHT!!

Your intense sacrasm doesn`t prove mdma foul for starters. It only hints to the fact we don`t know all the info about how its produced, but that doesn`t prove your point either. Smuggling extacy is a big business, once guns, bullets and barrels of saffrole are involved you ought to have a good lab to produce the shit, specially when making million $`s.

I`m not a homo, nor a raver. I took mdma only twice so watch the assumptions you launch out.

Whats your exact argument to claim mdma to be foul? Is it just the fact that it looks like other illegal drugs in its suspicious ziploc bag and carries the risk of being cut with shit? Fuck that. If its cut with speed then let it be, some milligrams of speed a few times a year isn`t going to do me any harm. That still doesn`t make mdma foul as a substance anyway.

I can just bomb down 70mg of it and feel wonders!
 

Dick Moser

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i do want to point out im not trying to troll...i just see how worthless wasting any ACTUAL thought on anything i might want to explain to the simple town folk...you dont tell your kids why you wont let them cook on the stove...you let them burn themselves. in your cases im hoping for the face. and im also really annyoed at how all of this was supposed to mean somthing to me...cause you have just reinforced how right i was, and then act superior....just really douching up the jiont, like you live here or somthing
 

DarthD3vl

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your kinda doing the same thing, making me glad im not a mdma hating what did you say oh douche as you would put it
after all you came into someone elses thread and told them their choice of high is foul. he didn't come into your thread and say your choice was foul. unfortunately you did troll, from the very start.

your opinion is valued if asked for.
 

Dick Moser

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wow so moving, this argument of yours, i have explained my lack of viable evidence to the "foulness" in light of the startling ignorance. im not gonna teach algebra to someone who can "just bomb down 70mg of it and feel WONDERS!!!!"" (i was gonna say trig to someone who cant do algebra but i thought this was funnier, and this is an "analogy" so thus not having anything to do with this situation, i dont know or care about your math skills) so you my friend are an idiot and if you havent figured it i will explain this much. my "argument" wasnt what is and isnt allowed in MY body, it was simply that he* shouldnt have to depend on his "dude" who might or might not have the goods from time to time and have some fun making a batch of goodies on his lonesome. and i suggested acid and shrooms for a fun easy start into manufacturing a good time. brewing is also fun but less halistic. but

for reall...suck a fat dick.

*the a fore mentioned he being asdf1
 

Tenner

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Yeah dude thats how its done, bomb it down and feel wonders. Like a 5 hour lesson about happiness from a chemical teacher :D A gift of understanding how your mind can actually let go of all the bullshit you had stored about things. Plus don`t you "skin up that shit"?

Your equating me to a child, and hoping I get hurt badly from my acts and telling people YOU started an argument with to "suck a fat dick" when you can`t get your point through.

No your argument was that mdma was foul and dmt was better, thats how you started, don`t do a 180* turnaround now. You challenged this thread to argue it out with you.

If I`m not wrong your also calling people here "simple town folk" your wasting your time on. Wasting your time, maybe you shouldn`t pick on peoples choice of substance then?

Talking about "not needing things" I`m gonna quote your signature here

"ANYONE WHO SAYS
MARIJUANA
ISN'T ADDICTIVE, HAS NEVER GROWN IT"

Well, do YOU need cannabis? Yes? No? It doesn`t even matter on the argument you put forth. Stop being a troll, lol
 

Dick Moser

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well..the problem is you ARE wrong...i mean appareantly i am wasting my time but this will make me feel good so im goona explain it to you.


the fat dick thing...my name is dick (screen name) and it said originally, suck a fattie, dick like a signature but i thought it would be funnier and still seem like a signature if a made an alterantion, ...you apparently didnt CATCH that one, and

the "simple towns folk" are simply the simply ones...all the others are just town folk you clown fulk. and

the original statement "you wanna fight about it" comes from the classic ameican cartoon comedy "family guy" and its in refrence to a short soulless ginger, and it is somthing

i could debate for days and hate for daze (that means i know a fair bit about it and i dont like the feelings or side effects of it)

you are an IDIOT..so please read through this and tell me what you think....im gonna got take a shit and name it aftter you......marijuana is prescibed to me legally and my doctor seems to think i "need" it, so if it means that much to you ask him if i "need" it. douch < my version
 

Tenner

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well..the problem is you ARE wrong...i mean appareantly i am wasting my time but this will make me feel good so im goona explain it to you.


the fat dick thing...my name is dick (screen name) and it said originally, suck a fattie, dick like a signature but i thought it would be funnier and still seem like a signature if a made an alterantion, ...you apparently didnt CATCH that one, and

the "simple towns folk" are simply the simply ones...all the others are just town folk you clown fulk. and the original statement "you wanna fight about it" comes from the classic ameican cartoon comedy "family guy" and its in refrence to a short soulless ginger, and it is somthing i could debate for days and hate for daze (that means i know a fair bit about it and i dont like the feelings or side effects of it)

you are an IDIOT..so please read through this and tell me what you think....im gonna got take a shit and name it aftter you......
So I don`t get what your on about. Are you saying mdma is foul or foul for you? Spit it out man!

The way your structuring those sentences and the mistakes your making is hinting me to not argue with you, but ima go on.

How can we be simple towns folk? Your in the HS section... I`m sure people in this section aren`t like... what you would call "normal" people :D

Your saying you don`t like the side effects of it, how much mdma have you used? In what doses and what timespan?

:D
 

Dick Moser

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pf tek-https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/165893-mushroom-growing-walkthrough-pf-tek.html from there its simple method (or tek) changes to grow bigger better more...yada yada, move from this to mono tub

here is a well known and respected guide. i used morning glories and did this when i was 16 and i think it was closer to prep #2. this is the recipe i dont think it has a materials guide in it. using anything other then culture ergot will result in a less "trippy" feeling but still come with all the colors and distortion to reality (or diffrent view point)


LSD-25 Synthesis from "Psychedelic Guide to the Preparation of the Eucharist"
Preparatory arrangements
Starting material may be any lysergic acid derivative, from ergot on rye grain or from culture, or morning glory seeds or from synthetic sources. Preparation #1 uses any amide, or lysergic acid as starting material. Preparations #2 and #3 must start with lysergic acid only, prepared from the amides as follows:

10 g of any lysergic acid amide from various natural sources dissolved in 200 ml of methanolic KOH solution and the methanol removed immediately in vacuo. The residue is treated with 200 ml of an 8% aqueous solution of KOH and the mixture heated on a steam bath for one hour. A stream of nitrogen gas is passed through the flask during heating and the evolved NH3 gas may be titrated is HCl to follow the reaction. The alkaline solution is made neutral to congo red with tartaric acid, filtered, cleaned by extraction with ether, the aqueous solution filtered and evaporated. Digest with MeOH to remove some of the coloured material from the crystals of lysergic acid.

Arrange the lighting in the lab similarly to that of a dark room. Use photographic red and yellow safety lights, as lysergic acid derivatives are decomposed when light is present. Rubber gloves must be worn due to the highly poisonous nature of ergot alkaloids. A hair drier, or, better, a flash evaporator, is necessary to speed up steps where evaporation is necessary.

Preparation #1

Step I. Use Yellow light
Place one volume of powdered ergot alkaloid material in a tiny roundbottom flask and add two volumes of anhydrous hydrazine. An alternate procedure uses a sealed tube in which the reagents are heated at 112 C. The mixture is refluxed (or heated) for 30 minutes. Add 1.5 volumes of H2O and boil 15 minutes. On cooling in the refrigerator, isolysergic acid hydrazide is crystallised.

Step II. Use Red light
Chill all reagents and have ice handy. Dissolve 2.82 g hydrazine rapidly in 100 ml 0.1 N ice-cold HCl using an ice bath to keep the reaction vessel at 0 C. 100 ml ice-cold 0.1 N NaNO2 is added and after 2 to 3 minutes vigorous stirring, 130 ml more HCl is added dropwise with vigorous stirring again in an ice bath. After 5 minutes, neutralise the solution with NaHCO3 saturated sol. and extract with ether. Remove the aqueous solution and try to dissolve the gummy substance in ether. Adjust the ether solution by adding 3 g diethylamine per 300 ml ether extract. Allow to stand in the dark, gradually warming up to 20 C over a period of 24 hours. Evaporate in vacuum and treat as indicated in the purification section for conversion of iso-lysergic amides to lysergic acid amides.

Preparation #2

Step I. Use Yellow light
5.36 g of d-lysergic acid are suspended in 125 ml of acetonitrile and the suspension cooled to about -20 C in a bath of acetone cooled with dry ice. To the suspension is added a cold (-20 C) solution of 8.82 g of trifluoroacetic anhydride in 75 ml of acetonitrile. The mixture is allowed to stand at -20 C for about 1.5 hours during which the suspended material dissolves, and the d-lysergic acid is converted to the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids. The mixed anhydride can be separated in the form of an oil by evaporating the solvent in vacuo at a temperature below 0 C, but this is not necessary. Everything must be kept anhydrous.

Step II. Use Yellow light
The solution of mixed anhydrides in acetonitrile from Step I is added to 150 ml of a second solution of acetonitrile containing 7.6 g of diethylamine. The mixture is held in the dark at room temperature for about 2 hours. The acetonitrile is evaporated in vacuo, leaving a residue of LSD-25 plus other impurities. The residue is dissolved in 150 ml of chloroform and 20 ml of ice water. The chloroform layer is removed and the aqueous layer is extracted with several portions of chloroform. The chloroform portions are combined and in turn washed with four 50 ml portions of ice-cold water. The chloroform solution is then dried over anhydrous Na2SO4 and evaporated in vacuo.

Preparation #3
This procedure gives good yield and is very fast with little iso-lysergic acid being formed (its effect are mildly unpleasant). However, the stoichometry must be exact or yields will drop.

Step I. Use White light
Sulfur trioxide is produced in anhydrous state by carefully decomposing anhydrous ferric sulfate at approximately 480 C. Store under anhydrous conditions.

Step II. Use White light
A carefully dried 22 litre RB flask fitted with an ice bath, condenser, dropping funnel and mechanical stirrer is charged with 10 to 11 litres of dimethylformamide (freshly distilled under reduced pressure). The condenser and dropping funnel are both protected against atmospheric moisture. 2 lb of sulfur trioxide (Sulfan B) are introduced dropwise, very cautiously stirring, during 4 to 5 hours. The temperature is kept at 0-5 C throughout the addition. After the addition is complete, the mixture is stirred for 1-2 hours until some separated, crystalline sulfur trioxide-dimethylformamide complex has dissolved. The reagent is transferred to an air- tight automatic pipette for convenient dispensing, and kept in the cold. Although the reagent, which is colourless, may change from yellow to red, its efficiency remains unimpaired for three to four months in cold storage. An aliquot is dissolved in water and titrated with standard NaOH to a phenolphthalein end point.

Step III. Use Red light
A solution of 7.15 g of d-lysergic acid mono hydrate (25 mmol) and 1.06 g of lithium hydroxide hydrate (25 mmol) in 200 ml of MeOH is prepared. The solvent is distilled on the steam bath under reduced pressure. the residue of glass-like lithium lysergate is dissolved in 400 ml of anhydrous dimethyl formamide. From this solution about 200 ml of the dimethyl formamide is distilled off at 15 ml pressure through a 12 inch helices packed column. the resulting anhydrous solution of lithium lysergate left behind is cooled to 0 C and, with stirring, treated rapidly with 500 ml of SO3-DMF solution (1.00 molar). The mixture is stirred in the cold for 10 minutes and then 9.14 g (125.0 mmol) of diethylamine is added. The stirring and cooling are continued for 10 minutes longer, when 400 ml of water is added to decompose the reaction complex. After mixing thoroughly, 200 ml of saturated aqueous saline solution is added. The amide product is isolated by repeated extraction with 500 ml portions of ethylene dichloride. the combined extract is dried and then concentrated to a syrup under reduced pressure. Do not heat up the syrup during concentration. the LSD may crystallise out, but the crystals and the mother liquor may be chromatographed according to the instructions on purification.

Purification of LSD-25
The material obtained by any of these three preparations may contain both lysergic acid and iso-lysergic acid amides. Preparation #1 contains mostly iso-lysergic diethylamide and must be converted prior to separation. For this material, go to Step II first.

Step I
Use darkroom and follow with a long wave UV The material is dissolved in a 3:1 mixture of benzene and chloroform. Pack the chromatography column with a slurry of basic alumina in benzene so that a 1 inch column is six inches long. Drain the solvent to the top of the alumina column and carefully add an aliquot of the LSD-solvent solution containing 50 ml of solvent and 1 g LSD. Run this through the column, following the fastest moving fluorescent band. After it has been collected, strip the remaining material from the column by washing with MeOH. Use the UV light sparingly to prevent excessive damage to the compounds. Evaporate the second fraction in vacuo and set aside for Step II. The fraction containing the pure LSD is concentrated in vacuo and the syrup will crystallise slowly. This material may be converted to the tartrate by tartaric acid and the LSD tartrate conveniently crystallised. MP 190-196 C.

Step II. Use Red light
Dissolve the residue derived from the methanol stripping of the column in a minimum amount of alcohol. Add twice that volume of 4 N alcoholic KOH solution and allow the mixture to stand at room temperature for several hours. Neutralise with dilute HCl, make slightly basic with NH4OH and extract with chloroform or ethylene dichloride as in preparations #1 or #2. Evaporate in vacuo and chromatograph as in the previous step.

Lysergic acid compounds are unstable to heat, light and oxygen. In any form it helps to add ascorbic acid as an anti- oxidant, keeping the container tightly closed, light-tight with aluminum foil, and in a refrigerator.
 

Dick Moser

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after the crystals have formed we dissolved in ethanol and dipped blotters. i just posted this as a helpful insensitive to see what you cant figure out. (and it may sound complex, but if you looked at some of the stuff growers use its not really complex at all. growers have to worry about light spectrum air dirt water tmeps humidity ph nutes yada yada yada and growing can take MONTHES and acid and shrooms a few days and a few weeks respectivly.) and no destroying half of the globe and without those nasty meth added highs.
 

Ellis Dee

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Your fucking stupid.

LSD is LSD, if you made it the effects of each batch will be the same. Several easier ways to make it anyway you tool.

Copy and pasting doesn't make you a chemist. "I think it was closer to prep 2" You joke, stop trolling and get a fucking life.
 

Da'at

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Hey, I can do that too...

How to make MDMA (Extacy)


The following synthesis is not meant to be carried out by a novice chemist, although it is not terribly difficult. For descriptions of how to carry out the procedures, you should buy a standard lab procedures reference manual (or preferably you should take college organic chemistry).


Method 1
To a well stirred, cooled mixture of 34g of 30% H202 (hydrogen peroxide)in 150g 80% HCO2H (formic acid) there was added, dropwise, a solutionof 32.4g isosafrole in 120ml acetone at a rate that kept the reaction mixture from exceeding 40 deg C. This required a bit over 1 hour, andexternal cooling was used as necessary. Stirring was continued for 16hours, and care was taken that the slow exothermic reaction did notcause excess heating. An external bath with running water worked well.During this time the solution progressed from an orange color to a deepred. All volatile components were removed under vacuum which yieldedsome 60g of a very deep residue. This was dissolved in 60ml of MeOH(methyl alcohol -- methanol), treated with 360ml of 15% H2SO4 (sulfuricacid), and heated for 3 hours on the steam bath. After cooling themixture was extracted with 3x75ml Et2O (diethyl ether) or C6H6(benzene). Its recommended that, the pooled extracts can washed --first with H2O and then with dilute NaOH (sodium hydroxide). Then thesolvent is removed under vacuum to afford 20.6g 3, 4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone (3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl methylketone). The final residue may be distilled at 2.0mm/108-112 deg C, or at about 160 deg C at the water pump.


Add 23g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone to 65g HCONH2 (formamide) and heat at 190 deg for five hours. Cool, add 100ml H20, extract with C6H6(benzene) and evaporate in vacuum the extract. Add 8ml MeOH (methylalcohol -- methanol) and 75ml 15% HCl to residue, heat on water bathtwo hours and extract in vacuum (or basify with KOH and extract the oilwith benzene and dry, evaporate in vacuum) to get 11.7 g3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA).
To produce MDMA substitute N-methylformamide for formamide in the above synthesis.






Method 2

This is a less yealding method usually producing only MDA. It is a two step procedure first reacting safrole with hydrobromic acid to give3,4-methylenedi- oxyphenyl-2-bromopropane, and then taking this material and reacting it with either ammonia or methylamine to yield MDA or MDMA respectively. This procedure has the advantages of no tbeing at all sensitive to batch size, nor is it likely to "run away"and produce a tarry mess. It shares with the Ritter reaction the advantage of using cheap, simple, and easily available chemicals.



The sole disadvantage of this method is the need to do the final reaction with ammonia or methylamine inside a sealed pipe. This is because the reaction must be done in the temperature range of 120- 140 C, and the only way to reach this temperature is to seal the reactants up insideof a bomb. This is not particularly dangerous, and is quite safe if some simple precautions are taken.



The first stage of the conversion, the reaction with hydrobromic acid, is quite simple,and produces almost a 100% yield of the bromi- nated product. See the Journal of Biological Chemistry, Volume 108 page 619. The author is H.E. Carter. Also see Chemical Abstracts 1961, column 14350. The following reaction takes place:



To do the reaction,200 ml of glacial acetic acid is poured into a champagne bottle nestled in ice. Once the acetic acid has cooled down, 300 grams (200 ml) of 48% hydrobromic acid is slowly added with swirling. Once this mixture has cooled down, 100 grarns of safrole is slowly added with swirling. Oncethe safrole is added, the cheap plastic stopper of the champagne bottleis wired back into place, and the mixture is slowly allowed to come to room temperature with occasional shaking. After about 12 hours theoriginal two layers will merge into a clear red solution. In 24 hours,the reaction is done. The chemist carefully removes the stopper from the bottle, wearing eye protection. Some acid mist may escape from around the stopper.



The reaction mixture is now pouredonto about 500 grams of crushed ice in a 1000 or 2000 ml beaker. Oncethe ice has melted, the red layer of product is separated, and thewater is extracted with about l00 ml of petroleum ether or regularethyl ether. The ether extract is added to the product, and thecombined product is washed first with water, and then with a solutionof sodium carbonate in water. The purpose of these washings is toremove HBr from the product. One can be sure that all the acid isremoved from the product when some fresh carbonate solution does notfizz in contact with the product.



Once all the acid inthe product is removed, the ether must be removed from it. This isimportant because if the ether were allowed to remain in it, too muchpressure would be generated in the next stage inside of the bomb. Also,it would interfere with the formation of a solution between the productand methylamine or ammonia. It is not necessary to distill the productbecause with a yield of over 90%, the crude product is pure enough tofeed into the next stage. To remove the ether from the product, thecrude product is poured into a flask, and a vacuum is applied to it.This causes the ether to boil off. Some gentle heating with hot wateris quite helpful to this process. The yield of crude product is in theneighborhood of 200 grams.



With the bromo compound inhand, it is time to move onto the next step which gives MDA or MDMA.The bromo compound reacts with ammonia or methylamine to give MDA orMDMA.




To do the reaction, 50 grams of the bromocompound is poured into a beaker, and 200 ml of concentrated ammoniumhydroxide (28% NH3) or 40% methylamine is added. Next, isopropylalcohol is added with stirring until a nice smooth solution is formed.It is not good to add too much alcohol because a more dilute solutionreacts slower. Now the mixture is poured into a pipe "bomb." This pipeshould be made of stainless steel, and have fine threads on both ends.Stainless steel is preferred because the HBr given off in the reactionwill rust regular steel. Both ends of the pipe are securely tighteneddown. The bottom may even be welded into place. Then the pipe is placedinto cooking oil heated to around 130 C. This temperature is maintainedfor about 3 hours or so, then it is allowed to cool. Once the pipe ismerely warm, it is cooled down some more in ice, and the cap unscrewed.


The reaction mixture is poured into a distilling flask, theglass- ware rigged for simple distillation, and the isopropyl alcoholand excess ammonia or methylamine is distilled off. When this is done,the residue inside the flask is made acid with hydrochloric acid. Ifindicating pH paper is available, a pH of about 3 should be aimed for.This converts the MDA to the hydrochloride which is water soluble. Goodstrong shaking of the mixture ensures that this conversion is complete.The first stage of the purification is to recover unreacted bromocompound. To do this, 200 to 300 ml of ether is added. After someshaking, the ether layer is separated. It contains close to 20 grams ofbromo compound which may be used again in later batches.

Nowthe acid solution containing the MDA is made strongly basic with lyesolution. The mixture is shaken for a few minutes to ensure that theMDA is converted to the free base. Upon sitting for a few minutes, theMDA floats on top of the water as a dark colored oily layer. This layeris separated and placed into a distilling flask. Next, the water layeris extracted with some toluene to get out the remaining MDA free base.The toluene is combined with the free base layer, and the toluene isdistilled off. Then a vacuum is applied, and the mixture isfractionally distilled. A good aspirator with cold water will bring theMDA off at a temperature of 150 to 160 C. The free base should be clearto pale yellow, and give a yield of about 20 ml. This free base is madeinto the crystalline hydrochloride by dissolving it in ether andbubbling dry HCl gas through it.
Does that make me cool?
 
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