My Current set up: journal?

I clone the basic way. I make the cut, never under water (stopped doing that a while back), and then I'll make a slice into the core of the stem, where I made the original cut. If that doesn't make sense I'll try to explain better.

I also don't use rooting hormone. It isn't needed. The hormone for the plant to grow roots is already present, no need to add more. The single most important factor in cloning is environment. Keep them wet and humid, with plenty of light. the more light they get the more energy they have for making root. As an example, my prop' is set 2-3 ft away from a 400w MH lamp.

I also layer the bottom of my prop with perlite. this helps to keep things humid in there. Also, filling your prop is very important. Too much space in there and there's more air movement... which will cause them to dry out quicker.

Once, every morning, I'll clean the top of the prop' of any excess water. Then I check the weight of the cubes. Even if i know they're ok, and don't need to be dunked. I just like to take each clone out and give a brief check.

I also mist them, once to twice a day. Keep them wet, and they can concentrate on growing root. they also don't draw as much out of the cube, so you don't need to dunk as often.

My results are usually a first sign of root in 7 days. In 9 days they are well on the way... 14 days and they are more than ready for transplant into the medium.

Another neat trick, is to trim the larger leaves. leave as little leaf as possible anyway, as the less leaf it has to support, the more it can concentrate on rooting. But the leaves you do leave on, trim down.

I hope I haven't missed anything.

hold your left hand as if your holding a beer bottle, now if you stick a cutting through that hole that your index finger and thumb makes pull it down a bit you can easily trim of all unwanted foliage in one snip! make sure you put cut stem in first pull down until the top shot is to your middle finger(or where the first shot leaf meet the hole opening) and just snip off everything and viola a perfectly trimmed cutting.

I have to clone like 200+ plants everytime i need clone so this technic i've discovered saves me alot of time and makes my cutting neat for spacing.

Thanx for the cloning input. Please post any pictures you may have or be able to get if you can to illustrate. Skunk I didn't feel you were snapping, I thought it was funny, like something I might have said. I remember when I heard there is a big one year learning curve and I think its a little longer than that. Maybe it has just been my experience, or lack of it, I'm not sure which. If there was a chance for a problem I had that problem. I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Well maybe for the whole world.
I do have a couple pix to share as well, thanx waffle for the picture of the difference. Slap me and call me SHirley, why hadn't I tried a picture. Seems people are a little confused about how to mix the red and blue so I thought I would try to show it with a few pictures. The first one shows 2 blue and 6 red Bulbs. You can't see the red, you see it as almost white, you can see the blue. I bought the light that way before the research was completed. I bought the next one that way as well. By the third one I had learned and so I got all blue, mixed half of them in this other fixture that is pictured. You will see four blue bulbs and a bunch of lights or reflectors. The last light picture I turned off 1/2 the fixture. And last my SEXY Heater.

ya i definatly think you have a pretty sick set up good job man

hey victor give me a few months to catch up to you and ill go with u head to head with my 2 600 hps's

wafflehouselover said:

I have to clone like 200+ plants everytime i need clone so this technic i've discovered saves me alot of time and makes my cutting neat for spacing.

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There was a time, not too long ago where I had to do that many cuttings myself. It's real hard work. we don't have clone clubs in my country, let's just say there are a lot of lazy growers.

I have pic's of clones, rooted clones etc on my hard drive... although in his profile NGT has an excellent cloning video. that walks through step by step. he does it, pretty much, the same way I do.

butterflykisses said:

hey victor give me a few months to catch up to you and ill go with u head to head with my 2 600 hps's

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I'm almost 60 years old with a bad back I don't do competitons. I do love learning experiences, especially the hands on kind where you let the one thats learning perform the task. You can watch video's, read books, until you have done it, you won't remember it.
I want to put a little plug in here. Garden Knowm book, the one I received, has a good page or two on cloning and pictures of the plants life every day. I remember when he first talked about it, when it was originally titled with the $50.00 cost instead of $100. I had a crop that started around that same time. GK got close to one half of my yield from 20 plants with just 3 plants. Sets the bar pretty high.
Butterfly, you know I'll be here. Do you have the room to do this, what can we help you with?
VV

I have pic's of clones, rooted clones etc on my hard drive... although in his profile NGT has an excellent cloning video. that walks through step by step. he does it, pretty much, the same way I do.[/quote]
Please link it in a post here. I haven't watched his yet. I do remember he posted one. I think at the time he and another member where having a pissin contest, NonGreen was right, I just wanted to stay out of it and I wasn't set up to need clones ready to flower every two weeks.
Maybe thats the difference. I don't want them to be ready for four weeks. Thats the rotation I have. We could probably list a few hundred cloning methods.
The point I want to make is this. It is ok to try and fail. I find comfort in little successes. First harvest, first clones, first table, only modified it three times. Whoops it was four forgot that stupid play with the 1/4" water lines. That one cost me like $100.00 when I really couldn't afford it, wife bailed my out again, I love my wife.
Not trying is a success of sorts, you don't have to add another failure and you will never have any other success. I love you man. VV

https://www.rollitup.org/z/nongreenthumb/ here you go.

Thanks for the love VV, I'm trying to figure out a way of saying the same thing back without sounding like a homo (not that there's anything wrong with that, so long as its behind closed doors and I don't have to see it).

thanks vv i didnt mean a compitition just same strain we can figure out the details my husband thinks im crazy anyhow. and i cant thank you GUYS enough for all your help on my inside growing we have grown outside for years never inside till rollitup. i know about the bad back thing i have an ans spinal cord stimulator implanted! ugh mutiple back surgerys as well. but i like u and think it would be fun

I like company. I did transplant 16 clones yesterday and will start harvesting table 4 over the next two days. I picked up a couple of things today. These wire ties were less than $13.00 for 2300, 1000 uses in a grow room, and a little something for my self. A small reward for reaching another goal. VV

What a difference a day makes. I started the harvest of table four, 9 down 6 to go. I have been averaging a little over 100 grams wet, not quite a dry oz/plant. Maybe the last six will pull it up, we will see.
I decided to see what the tables would look like with fewer plants. I moved15 plants from table 3 to table four, leaving the other 5 on table 3. Started moving some off table 2 to table 3. I ended up spreading the fourty plants from those two tables over the three tables instead. Of course this will mean I will have to make some other adjustment, what they hell do I do with the 20 plants I was going to move to flowering?? And the 16 plants I just transplanted ready to go into vegging and the other 15 clones I still have to transplant. Any ideas??

These are pictures of what those tables look like now, with 12, 13 and 15 plants. A bud on a flowering plant and a few crystal buds getting ready to dry. Turn the page. VV

Hey VV, with every crop I grow I have background plants that are never meant to give a decent yield.

Admittedly, 40 is a fair amount to just leave in the background, but hey... it's all bud. A lot of the time I'll turn the background plants into oil anyway, only really save the tightest nugs, or give them to my friends... who don't know the difference anyway. They're also good for experiments.

If you're just flowering with the fluoros, and with that many plants... I'd say 100g average (wet) per plant is a good yield. Good to see some honesty, there's too many people on here that exaggerate their yields in an effort to impress others that have also lied about theirs.

This is a picture of a plant that has been flowering for 8 weeks beside one that has been flowering for just four weeks. You may notice the one the right (four weeks flowering) is slightly taller. This 30" plant height is not alarming, the sparse looking plant is. Thats why I decided to spread them out more. They haven't grown much taller in the last week. Now if they fill the buds in They will be awesome. Top view of the two together, and then separatley. Lots to do tomorrow. Good night all. VV

Yes, cramming in too many plants will shield parts of the plant from the light. So they won't grow. But you don't need me to tell you that, you've just told me... lol.

Thanx for the response. The number is actually smaller that I would have to move. 15 moved would do it. I may just start getting pickier with the clones. I can still hang for a few days without making a decision. I have seen several people comment about growing fewer plants with larger yields per plant. If I can get the same type of total yield off 12-16 plants that I get off 20 I would be silly not to. What could I lose, 15 clones, oh well. First major grow I had about 12 plants per table, probably 20 varieties, it was a nightmare. By the way, both of those plants the 4 week flowering and 8 week flowering are white widow. The four week flowering one reminds me of the widow I had that first major grow. Ended up with one major cola, wet weight of 94 grams. I want that back. Been a long time getting there. VV

My Sea of Green experiment has been educational. At least I know I can manage to keep 60 plants in flowering, if I chose to, and I may. I might change the size of the tables a little, may even think about converting one to dwc, haven't tried that yet. I do know I want to make a change with the reses and tables. With my drip I had the reses suspended from the table, didn't need the larger res. Much more convienient. Well, I really do need to go get some sleep, still have 6 plants to finish...uhh today. VV

You could always cut down your pot sizes... although in soil I'm not sure how far you can push this. I know in coco coir, it's possible to get a 2oz plant from a 500ml container.

Trouble with this is, that the plants still grow the same size, so now instead of 4 beneath the lights I have only 6 good ones, with another 2 behind that will become fair sized, at least an oz. So, let's just say 7, instead of 4 which is still good.

It's all in my sig'.

skunkushybrid said:

Hey VV, with every crop I grow I have background plants that are never meant to give a decent yield.

Admittedly, 40 is a fair amount to just leave in the background, but hey... it's all bud. A lot of the time I'll turn the background plants into oil anyway, only really save the tightest nugs, or give them to my friends... who don't know the difference anyway. They're also good for experiments.

If you're just flowering with the fluoros, and with that many plants... I'd say 100g average (wet) per plant is a good yield. Good to see some honesty, there's too many people on here that exaggerate their yields in an effort to impress others that have also lied about theirs.

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Are you saying 26.5 lb's isn't possible under 2 flashlights?