My first CFL grow.

growman3666

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Lucky you, I've done warm and 'cold' settings, dark and light, in soil, paper towel...and it's ridiculous that I've got nothing. The one time I did get something I had to leave for a few days unexpectedly and they rotted in the paper towel with like 2.5" tap roots lol :(


Dark and warm everytime, mine go right on the cable box in a lightproof container
 

xp0c

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Lucky you, I've done warm and 'cold' settings, dark and light, in soil, paper towel...and it's ridiculous that I've got nothing. The one time I did get something I had to leave for a few days unexpectedly and they rotted in the paper towel with like 2.5" tap roots lol :(
you might be cursed. lol

i'm sure you'll get your sprouts soon enough.

i am watching the movie "how high" buddy grows some good shit, and funny as hell.
 

Sincerely420

New Member
Nice Job Xp0c for the whatever'th time lol! And congrats on the new addition.
While reading thru the thread I didn't see what soil you were growing in??
 

xp0c

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Nice Job Xp0c for the whatever'th time lol! And congrats on the new addition.
While reading thru the thread I didn't see what soil you were growing in??
I guess it's a soiless mix, but looks a lot like soil.

Only thing they had besides miracle grow.


  • Mark's Choice
  • Scientifically blended growing media for all hanging baskets, planters and window boxes
  • A rich blend of peat humus, light & dark Canadian sphagnum peat moss, compost, perlite and calcinated clay
 

Sincerely420

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Damn, and it's been all green since day one. Nice bro.
Your yellowing set it only when it was supposed too..
And are you/were you feeding? if so how?
I'm just asking because I jumped straight onto the organic ship thinking that it couldn't be more simple..
I've got a water only soil mix, where I feed the soil type deal.
 

xp0c

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Damn, and it's been all green since day one. Nice bro.
Your yellowing set it only when it was supposed too..
And are you/were you feeding? if so how?
I'm just asking because I jumped straight onto the organic ship thinking that it couldn't be more simple..
I've got a water only soil mix, where I feed the soil type deal.

LOL I hate to say but I did use miracle grow 24-8-16 during veg and sometimes add it with shultz 10-54-10 bloom. I only use them at 1/4 strenghth, but last feeding was 1/3 strength of the 10-54-10 bloom, and les than 1/4 strenghth 24-8-16 mg.
I only added the MG to the mix because the bloom stuff has so low N, and k, and I hate yellow leaves. lol
I feed her almost every water, but small doses.
I flushed her about a week ago to get rid of any salts, and the next day she had the yellow leaves.lol
She had a few more yellow leaves this morning so I mixed some MG with the Bloom.
I'll cut out the MG all together shortly.

Im shopping around for some nutrients now. There's too many to choose. lol
 

Sincerely420

New Member
It's just impressive that you didn't put much into the soil, and you're working with a limited selection of bottled nutes! :joint:
I would say look into organics lad. It's as simple as it get.
You can find a descent ready-made potting soil to begin with,(I chose Fox Farm Ocean Forest but have read a lot of awesome things about Fox Farm Happy Frog, and Roots Organic as well), or you can start from scatch and build a soil from ground up and have total control.
I just added a little extra plant food in the form of organic fertilizer to what's already in the bag of FFOF, let it sit for a month to cycle/"cook" and it's been ALL GREEN:leaf:
With organics you actually feed your plant indirectly because you feed the soil(adding life/microbes to it), which in turn break the nutrients in the soil down to a form that the plants can use. With that said, it's ALMOST impossible to burn your plant with organics. Your soil PH takes care of itself as over time. No buying bottle nutes either(adding chemicals kills of life in your soil, throwing the PH outta wack/locking out nutes if you over do it as you feed them a form of directly available nutes).
Organic amendments are cheaper than fertilizer by the bottle and do the same thing in natures way.
You make your own nutes essentially(AACT's-active aerated compost teas) by adding what organic ferts you have to some water and bubbling them a day or two depending on how much you make.
I've been learning A LOT about the gardening organically for the past 6 months, and it's just simple man.
It's too easy to be true being able to only water and not really maintain a feeding schedule. Just takes a little understand like everything else.
With all that said, I don't know a lot about bottle feeding as I haven't went this route. I just know that if you do it right, it works well despite the chemical use because the nutes are immediately available to the grass.

Just my 2cents tho Pics goin gup later! Just woke up to turn the lights on and figured I'd get back to you.

"It's only a job if you have to do it, and don't really enjoy it!" Smoke :leaf:
 

growman3666

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It's just impressive that you didn't put much into the soil, and you're working with a limited selection of bottled nutes! :joint:
I would say look into organics lad. It's as simple as it get.
You can find a descent ready-made potting soil to begin with,(I chose Fox Farm Ocean Forest but have read a lot of awesome things about Fox Farm Happy Frog, and Roots Organic as well), or you can start from scatch and build a soil from ground up and have total control.
I just added a little extra plant food in the form of organic fertilizer to what's already in the bag of FFOF, let it sit for a month to cycle/"cook" and it's been ALL GREEN:leaf:
With organics you actually feed your plant indirectly because you feed the soil(adding life/microbes to it), which in turn break the nutrients in the soil down to a form that the plants can use. With that said, it's ALMOST impossible to burn your plant with organics. Your soil PH takes care of itself as over time. No buying bottle nutes either(adding chemicals kills of life in your soil, throwing the PH outta wack/locking out nutes if you over do it as you feed them a form of directly available nutes).
Organic amendments are cheaper than fertilizer by the bottle and do the same thing in natures way.
You make your own nutes essentially(AACT's-active aerated compost teas) by adding what organic ferts you have to some water and bubbling them a day or two depending on how much you make.
I've been learning A LOT about the gardening organically for the past 6 months, and it's just simple man.
It's too easy to be true being able to only water and not really maintain a feeding schedule. Just takes a little understand like everything else.
With all that said, I don't know a lot about bottle feeding as I haven't went this route. I just know that if you do it right, it works well despite the chemical use because the nutes are immediately available to the grass.

Just my 2cents tho Pics goin gup later! Just woke up to turn the lights on and figured I'd get back to you.

"It's only a job if you have to do it, and don't really enjoy it!" Smoke :leaf:
Yessir i am using organics as well.
 

xp0c

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It's just impressive that you didn't put much into the soil, and you're working with a limited selection of bottled nutes! :joint:
I would say look into organics lad. It's as simple as it get.
You can find a descent ready-made potting soil to begin with,(I chose Fox Farm Ocean Forest but have read a lot of awesome things about Fox Farm Happy Frog, and Roots Organic as well), or you can start from scatch and build a soil from ground up and have total control.
I just added a little extra plant food in the form of organic fertilizer to what's already in the bag of FFOF, let it sit for a month to cycle/"cook" and it's been ALL GREEN:leaf:
With organics you actually feed your plant indirectly because you feed the soil(adding life/microbes to it), which in turn break the nutrients in the soil down to a form that the plants can use. With that said, it's ALMOST impossible to burn your plant with organics. Your soil PH takes care of itself as over time. No buying bottle nutes either(adding chemicals kills of life in your soil, throwing the PH outta wack/locking out nutes if you over do it as you feed them a form of directly available nutes).
Organic amendments are cheaper than fertilizer by the bottle and do the same thing in natures way.
You make your own nutes essentially(AACT's-active aerated compost teas) by adding what organic ferts you have to some water and bubbling them a day or two depending on how much you make.
I've been learning A LOT about the gardening organically for the past 6 months, and it's just simple man.
It's too easy to be true being able to only water and not really maintain a feeding schedule. Just takes a little understand like everything else.
With all that said, I don't know a lot about bottle feeding as I haven't went this route. I just know that if you do it right, it works well despite the chemical use because the nutes are immediately available to the grass.

Just my 2cents tho Pics goin gup later! Just woke up to turn the lights on and figured I'd get back to you.

"It's only a job if you have to do it, and don't really enjoy it!" Smoke :leaf:
Nice post.
My next grow will be without chemical fertilizer, and some good soil.
I'm going to read up a bit before getting my nutes. I just want something like Fox Farm Trio, but organic.
We don''t have Fox farm around here, but there is a few decent gardening supply stores just outside of town. I'll be able to get good soil there, but I will probably order nutes online.
 

Sincerely420

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Let me know when you get ready and make some moves towards organics.
Maybe I can save you some headaches. :joint:

Make sure you plan ahead as well. You'll need between 2weeks and a month for your soil to cycle and it's ESSENTIAL that you do that.
If not, while the amendments you add are breaking down, the can easily literally COOK your roots.
In organics its known as "cooking" the soil when really you just mix it and let it sit.
I you plan correctly, you can literally just water you grow the entire time..

And you make your own "bottled nutes" with Organics bro.
Save some dough:leaf:
 
what is the ph of your water that you use? also what did you say your day and night temps are. wow so i thought it says fox farm is ready to use out of the bag sincerely420
 

Sincerely420

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what is the ph of your water that you use? also what did you say your day and night temps are. wow so i thought it says fox farm is ready to use out of the bag sincerely420
Apparently it is NF. I don't know from experience, but I've read it. And just by looking at the label, it's LOADED with ingredients that buds love.
So I would say so like "they" do.

With organics you can add more to the soil when you mix it so that it's for your plants. They'll use it if/when they need. That's another + of organic gardening

I like many people who use it, amended it to make it better.
 

xp0c

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I think i'm just going to get some bottled nutes, for now. I will wait until I get everything the way I want it before getting into a 100% organic grow.
I will have the best soil I can get around here.
I might get the Advanced nutrients "Micro, Grow, and Bloom". I will get 50 grams of Carboload, 50 grams Big Bud, and 40 grams of Bud Blood as free samples.
was also looking at Jungle Juice, and Humboldt nutrients.
It's all a money grab, but got to be better than what I got.
 

D.tea

Active Member
Nutrients in the mix, troubles on its way! Hopefully the good kind. Pics?!
Or gonna leave a brotha hangin'?:leaf:
 

xp0c

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Ok here she is at 62 days old, and 34 days since first pistil.

The buds are growing longer, and a bit bigger I guess. I see lots of new calyx's on top of the buds, even though I got this deficiency going on.

I think I got a K deficiency, and, I wont be watering for another two days at least. I think I'll foiliar feed with a light does of 15-30-15 stuff I got. Then wash it off with plain PH'd water after it evaporates.

If I do order nutes it will take at least a week to get here. That might be too late to help my big girl, but maybe not for my other lady.

Sorry, but some of the pics are pretty much the same. Too high to sort them lol.
also you can see the one branch that is yellowing. It's dying , but still growing slowly. Not sure if I should cut it off, or wait till it falls off.

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Sincerely420

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From all I've read p0c you don't wanna spray anything on your buds(if you haven't alread). Even if you plan to wash them.
And in regards to the dead branch(I'm not sure if I saw it or not) it'll fall off when you gently try to move it when it's ready dead.
And I read you shouldn't cut the leaves unless they're better than 50% dead. They're like solar panels for the plant bro :joint:.
 

xp0c

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From all I've read p0c you don't wanna spray anything on your buds(if you haven't alread). Even if you plan to wash them.
And in regards to the dead branch(I'm not sure if I saw it or not) it'll fall off when you gently try to move it when it's ready dead.
And I read you shouldn't cut the leaves unless they're better than 50% dead. They're like solar panels for the plant bro :joint:.
I just did the undersides of the leaves, and the buds stayed pretty much dry. I have good air flow, and low humidity, so it was dry again in no time.
 

Sincerely420

New Member
U can accrue a taste from what ur spraying, and flushing won't help!
Also, bud rot. Even with adequate air circulation.
Be easy with spaying stuff on your bud! I'm no expert bro..still got a lot to learn, but I've learned so far not to spray my buds with anything.

Im just a guy trying to help coach tho. Again, def. no pro tho. :joint:
 

xp0c

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I only did it the once, and just the leaves. I've read all that too :)
The solution was weak enough that I probably couldn't taste it if I had a drink.

all the bad leaves died off, and none returned.

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