My first closet grow - 400w HPS, Master Kush, Frisian Dew, and more!

Just figured I'd log my first *real* grow here.. I did try a grow about 3yrs ago with an old crappy 600w HPS, some Master Kush seeds from Nirvana. Got two females that were really stretchy and got me about an eigth of dried bud.. Not very impressive. Looking back, I did almost everything wrong. Wrong location, no nutrients, wrong soil, etc. Well, FF a couple years, and a lot of reading.. I went and got a 400w HPS from HTGsupply. That bastard is wayyyyy brighter than my old 600! Anyways.. On to some pics.. I must apologize, my Nikon DSLR is at my parent's house so I had to use a Canon point and shoot,, I started by planting one of the old Master Kush seeds I was stowing away.. Just one.. I also grabbed two clones from a grow friend.. One is a Northern Lights/Blueberry, and the other is a Frisian Dew. All the clones have been going now for about three - four weeks. The Master Kush seed I never wrote down the date it popped so I'm going to guess about 5 weeks on the MK. To my delightful surprise, two days ago the MK started busting pre-flowers - it's a girl!!! And a beautiful looking one at that!! I think they've all grown enough now. I've done a lot of LST'ing and a FIM on both the MK and the Frisian.. They look wonderful. I'm going to start the 12/12 tonight!!! Can't wait!!! Some pics: The Master Kush The Frisian Dew The Northern Lights - not doing as good as the others, but still doing OK. Also I planted two Butterscotch Hawaiian x G13 skunks.. They're both 12 days old (12 days since popped out of soil). I'm going to move them to a veg box today so they can keep vegging while the others are budding. Here's the two Butterscotches. They've been under 400w HPS since popping.. But I keep them on the floor off to the side so they don't get too much light.. That one is looking great and is right at the surface of the soil. Interested to see how it turns out!!! I also tried my hand at clones.. I took two clippings off the Frisian Dew yesterday. Today they look as green and healthy as if I just snipped them off. I have high hopes! My first clone attempts ever! Now I will have two clones of a clone. hahaaa Also for Nutes I'm using the GH Flora three part series for hydroponics. That's all. I noticed a HUGE jump in plant life when I started that. Got all three in 32oz bottles off ebay for like $39 shipped. And the grow closet - completely light proof using weather stripping and sticky sheets of felt from Wally World. Worked beautifully. Also threw on a locking door handle in case of any nosy guests. Off shot are a fan blowing from an intake hole in the wall which gets fed cold basement air, and a hole up in the ceiling with an exhaust fan blowing into the attic. No carbon filters or any of that crap. I'm in a single family house and with venting to the attic I don't think smell will be much of an issue. Not to mention it's only a few plants at a time.. that's about it!!! Switching to 12/12 and will keep this thread updated with pics and progress.. Thanks to all for all the great help I've gotten while reading these forums!!!!

Alright - moved the clippings and seedlings out.. Built a small grow box with four CFL's on it.. It's expandable to eight if needed... That's it - tomorrow will be day 1 of flowering! Can't wait to see what comes of it all.

I also wanted to ask - Anyone with the HTGsupply 400w HPS light? Does the ballast get very hot? The black part you can't even touch your hand to for more than a second or two.. Is this normal? I have fans in there, and the temps are low.. The exhaust is about a foot above the ballast anyway.. I just want to make sure that it's *supposed* to get that hot. Thanks And what's up, no love for my grow?!

The clones are still looking good! Hoping that means all is well!!

nice work, subbed to this thread

Day two of flowering.. Everything looking A-OK. The two FD clippings I took are still bright green and standing up nicely. It's been over three days for them - can I assume they're OK and are currently rooting? Or can there still be probs? Started the two Butterscotches on a light mix of nutrients this morning too.. Truckin along!

Bump - Just wondering if I should repot these? The NL and FD is in a 2.5gl, and I think the MK is a 2gl.. Just turned 12/12 yesterday.. thanks

potberto said:

Bump - Just wondering if I should repot these? The NL and FD is in a 2.5gl, and I think the MK is a 2gl.. Just turned 12/12 yesterday.. thanks

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Fuck it, repotted it. It's in a 3.5gl or so pot.. Not 100% sure on size, but definitely bigger than the 2.5 and by a good bit. I want to find one more bigger pot and do up the Frisian - I'll keep the NL in the 2.5 since it's smallish anyway. I did it quick and lowest stress possible. Cut the other pot off of it and slid it right in the new one. Less than 3 min total.

potberto said:

I also wanted to ask - Anyone with the HTGsupply 400w HPS light? Does the ballast get very hot? The black part you can't even touch your hand to for more than a second or two.. Is this normal? I have fans in there, and the temps are low.. The exhaust is about a foot above the ballast anyway.. I just want to make sure that it's *supposed* to get that hot. Thanks And what's up, no love for my grow?!

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I have a 400w from HTG and ya it gets pretty hot.

That's what I figured.. It's OK though. The closet gets about 65 during lights off, and 75-80 lights on. Hopefully will bring out the dark purples with the Frisian Dew when it's budding

Also - I woke up this morning and beautiful Mrs. Kush is nice and green and standing tall at attention. It appears the re-pot had no ill-effects on this old lady!! Going to try to find a bigger pot today for the Frisian. Also, my Frisian clippings that I took four days ago are still bright green and standing tall in their party cups (with a clear lid). Is it safe to assume at this point that all is going well with the rooting? They're being rooted in 50/50 mix of perlite and vermiculite. Should I rinse that out and take a look to see if it has roots? Or should I just let it go and not worry about it just yet? I'm just not sure when it is OK to put them in a normal pot and go about their normal lives... Thanks!!!

Going on day 5 of 12/12 cycle. All are looking great. The MK is really starting to bush a bit.. The NL have some looooong pistils shooting out. Lookin good! No new pics, maybe tomorrow morning I'll grab a few.

Day 6 of budding.. Took some pics this morning before they all went back to sleep First though here's the two baby Butterscotch Hawaiian x G13 skunks. They're both 19 days since they popped soil. Do they look about on par? Couple forming buds on the Master Kush plant: Nice long pistils on the Northern Lights: And the garden: That's all for now!

Small update with a couple pics.. Flowering day 11 of my personal medical grow.


The Frisian Dew:



The Master Kush:



And the Northern Berry x Blueberry (I call it Berry Blue )




And the garden:


Well within the legal limit of budding girls! Isn't life grand..

looks good bro, cant wait to see how they end up.

Garden is realllly filling in nicely!! Hoping the buds start to really bulk up soonn!!! Day 20 of flowering.. I guess I'm a little under half-way there??

Day 24 of flowering. At the moment trying to figure out a small prob - if you have a minute check out the THREAD please!

Here's two nice bud pics.. The Frisian:


And the MK:


'till next time

Day 26 of flowering.. Aside from the extensive yellowing, the buds are looking great.. I flushed/fed and gave some cal-mag in case it was a mag deficiency..

Anyway, just going to let nature take it's course from here and see what happens.

Here's a bud pic from each of the three flowering plants:

Frisian Dew:


Northern Berry x Blueberry:


Master Kush:


Any comments are welcome!

bud porn indeed! and a nice job of lst'ing i must say... subscribed!

after 20 days of flowering I don't know if you are half way yet... I would say more to the 30-35 day point, I guess which is what you are at now. And you have 1-2 weeks of flushing before harvest. How is your yellow leaf problem turning out after adding cal+mag and the other nuts you are using?

Yah, I guess I'm just trying to make it seem like harvest time was sooner! I can't wait! haha

I really haven't seen much of an improvement that I noticed.. It's only been a couple days though. And will the yellow leaves ever go back to green? Or should I just be focusing on the new growth?

Also, one of my ButterscotchxHawaiians looks like it might be a little boy. I should know tonight when the lights come on. If it is I'll finish it seperately and get some sperm .

Which brings me to another Q - if I "paint" a bit of pollen on a single bud from each plant - will that stunt the plant at all? Or just that one bud? I'd like to do a little cross-pollination, but don't want to fuck up my end yield just to get a few beans.

Thanks!