my first grow! 4x Dinafem Cloud 9 :D

cockbag123

cockbag123

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hi guys so this is my first grow. all tips/suggestions/comments/flames/compliments etc are welcome. the plants are 19 days old today and in these pictures also, are they a good size how do they look? i burned two of them with the lgiht when they were only about a week old, but they seem to have recovered nicely for the most part. theres a small bit of canoeing on two of them also so if you could tell me what that might be id appreciate it, heres my setup.

Light : 250W HPS
nutes : biobizz. bio grow and bio bloom
medium : organic potting soil

i transferred them at 14 days from 5 inch pots to 3 gallons.

its hard to find much info on cloud 9 online.. not a very popular choice for growers so anyone with experience with this plant if you can let me know how your grow went and the temperment of the plant that'd be great. happy growing!

heres some pics of my babies! :)
 

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hempy7723

hempy7723

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plants looking good. how far away is your light? I also have a 250w hps. I put mine 6in away from the tops with a fan blowing on the top part of plant. id say 1ft away max for light for small plants in veg. make sure the fan is making them dance a little. heres my plants day19 flower. good luck and monster harvest.

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cockbag123

cockbag123

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my light is about a foot and a half away atm, ive been having problems with light bleaching and canoeing they seem pretty sensitive to it for some reason, ive got a fan on them and they dance alright :) thnx for you interest!
 
cockbag123

cockbag123

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let air in no? so i definitely need perlite ? i thought that was just a choice no? thnx for your input greatly appreciated + rep
 
fir3dragon

fir3dragon

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cockbag123 said:
let air in no? so i definitely need perlite ? i thought that was just a choice no? thnx for your input greatly appreciated + rep
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you dont need perlite. you can use alternatives its just that you need something in there to give the roots air. eventually as you keep watering the soil will keep compacting under the surface and basically keep the roots from breathing which i believe is called root rot.
 
cockbag123

cockbag123

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o nobody ever grows in just soil? i dug down a little and roots are everywhere and nice and white and healthy and the soil doesnt seem extremely hard or compact.
 
fir3dragon

fir3dragon

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cockbag123 said:
o nobody ever grows in just soil? i dug down a little and roots are everywhere and nice and white and healthy and the soil doesnt seem extremely hard or compact.
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normal soil is good but you need to add something like perlite or whatever. let it go and we will see what happens.

when you water, does it drain down fast or does it sit like a puddle then drain?
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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I dont really see any canoeing but do see a few rolled margins. By the looks of it those leaves are experiencing some heat stress. A hot spot under your lights. The margins curl due to the "GUARD CELLS" closing the "STOMA" to slow transpiration. This also can occur due to low humidity. But presents in much more of the plant. I just quoted and capped those words so you can research them yourself. Basic botanical and horticulural knowledge with almost always out weigh and out grow cannabis forum hype/myth/BS....
 
stoneslacker

stoneslacker

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As far as soil compaction, a friend of mine used promix with no perlite and had serious soil compaction problems bought halfway through. He now uses foxfarm ocean floor with about 10-20% perlite mixed in and this has done well for him.

Im my grow listed in my sig, I have a 250w hps about 8" from my canopy with a fan blowing between the light and plants. I also have another fan blowing from underneath and through the canopy, and have had no issues with heat stress even though my cabinet temps are over 84 most days. I've got lots of pics in my grow journal showing my setup if your interested, but I agree your light should be no farther than 12" away from your canopy. Just have good ventilation and air movement and the heat shouldnt be an issue. GL subbed and +rep 4 ya
 
Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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Soil compaction happens when you drive tractors across a field. And in container grows can happen if you fall into the flushing routine in which case its more of a settling thing with the same outcome. Otherwise in our pots it just dosent happen........
 
stoneslacker

stoneslacker

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Alexander Supertramp said:
Soil compaction happens when you drive tractors across a field. And in container grows can happen if you fall into the flushing routine in which case its more of a settling thing with the same outcome. Otherwise in our pots it just dosent happen........
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Right! My terms are incorrect, but I guess it seemed as he watered, the soil became more compact and wouldnt drain properly. The added perlite helped to keep the soil aerated and loose so I guess my only point would be that perlite helps.
 
cockbag123

cockbag123

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fir3dragon said:
normal soil is good but you need to add something like perlite or whatever. let it go and we will see what happens.

when you water, does it drain down fast or does it sit like a puddle then drain?
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when watered the water goes straight down pools for mb 1/2 second if that.
 
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backwood grower

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Hey man, Nice plants

From my experience here is how to prevent your soil from locking up, put a layer of non clump unscented cat liter on the top of your soil, it will help the water spread out and drain in the soil evenly which prevents the soil from compacting and clumping. Another thing you can do is add about a 2 inch layer or coco on your tops, both of these techniques will stop clumping AND prevent evaporation so you lose less water into the air, which can help with humidity indoors if your having any problems.
 
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