My First Grow! DIY DWC & Grow Area, SNOW WHITE FEM FROM SEED!

Bob Smith

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#1, those marks aren't enough for even a paranoid soul to worry that much about - you've found them early, which is great.

#2, that's without a doubt light burn - if the burning on the tips was on the whole plant and every leaf, then it could be nute burn, but seeing as the burn marks are concentrated in an area which was near the light, it's clearly light burn.

See my previous post for "if it looks like light burn, and smells like light burn, it's prolly light burn".

Still looking good though, just remember to raise your lights a touch each night before you go to sleep.
 

Bob Smith

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There are your pics Bob.


GO BOB GO! GO BOB GO!
Lol, thanks man - one of these days I'll actually stick with my initial plans.

Decided (a couple of hours ago) to switch to individual 5 gallon buckets connected to a reservoir as opposed to doing 18 gallon Rubbermaids.

Kinda stoked on it, actually.
 

tmsculli

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Thanks Bob. That was exactly what I was looking for haha. I am a well educated person on many subjects, but regardless of the knowledge I have I love to be reassured.
 

Bob Smith

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Thanks Bob. That was exactly what I was looking for haha. I am a well educated person on many subjects, but regardless of the knowledge I have I love to be reassured.
No worries mate; like a lot of things in life, growing weed is simple, but it's not easy.

Keep at it, you're on an awesome course - I wish I would've known about the Internet ten years ago, that woulda been something :eyesmoke:
 

tmsculli

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Oh god I couldn't imagine not having millions of people's opinions, experiences, and pictures at your fingertips and successfully learning how to grow haha.
 

tmsculli

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ROSEEEEEMANNNNNNN


I just did something that will hopefully make you proud and hopefully is something that was a great thing for me to do.

So, I wanted to make sure I had my nute situation correct for my mother so here is what I did.

I found the ppm of my tap water and found that it is = 200ppm

I filled a 5 gallon bucket with 3 gallons of fresh water. There are 3.79L per US Gallon. 3 x 3.79 = 11.37L in my 5 gallon bucket.

Then I looked at my nutes. For full veg stage, it says that I should have 2mL/L of both Grow and Micro nutrients.

11.37L x 2mL = 22.74 mL of each type of nute necessary would be a full dose.

30mL = 1 fluid ounce = 2 Tablespoons
15ml = .5 fluid ounces = 1 tablespoon

22.74mL / 30mL = .758 so 22.74mL = 75.8% of a fluid ounce.

~75% = 1.5 Tablespoons

So, I put in 1.5 tablespoons of both my Grow and Micro nutrients into the water and mixed it up.

I took the ppm and it was 470.

This is not proper ph though, so I adjusted the ph down to 5.9 and then measured again. Now it was 500ppm.

So in optimum conditions for my mother plant there should be 9" of water, 500ppm, and proper ph (obviously)

If I am correct, this means that my nutrients and ph solution are 300ppm.


Now that I have all of my base information like Roseman told me to do, I can continue keeping track of my water height, ppm, and ph. This way I can track it and keep it all at optimum conditions.


Is this correct?!
 

Roseman

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ROSEEEEEMANNNNNNN


I just did something that will hopefully make you proud and hopefully is something that was a great thing for me to do.

So, I wanted to make sure I had my nute situation correct for my mother so here is what I did.

I found the ppm of my tap water and found that it is = 200ppm

I filled a 5 gallon bucket with 3 gallons of fresh water. There are 3.79L per US Gallon. 3 x 3.79 = 11.37L in my 5 gallon bucket.

Then I looked at my nutes. For full veg stage, it says that I should have 2mL/L of both Grow and Micro nutrients.

11.37L x 2mL = 22.74 mL of each type of nute necessary would be a full dose.

30mL = 1 fluid ounce = 2 Tablespoons
15ml = .5 fluid ounces = 1 tablespoon

22.74mL / 30mL = .758 so 22.74mL = 75.8% of a fluid ounce.

~75% = 1.5 Tablespoons

So, I put in 1.5 tablespoons of both my Grow and Micro nutrients into the water and mixed it up.

I took the ppm and it was 470.

This is not proper ph though, so I adjusted the ph down to 5.9 and then measured again. Now it was 500ppm.

So in optimum conditions for my mother plant there should be 9" of water, 500ppm, and proper ph (obviously)

If I am correct, this means that my nutrients and ph solution are 300ppm.


Now that I have all of my base information like Roseman told me to do, I can continue keeping track of my water height, ppm, and ph. This way I can track it and keep it all at optimum conditions.


Is this correct?!

Yes, I am proud and man, I am flattered too.

PPM is not an easy thing to explain. I am no rocket scientist, or botanist or horoculturist. I used to have a high IQ but 41 years of daily smoking has taken its toll on me. Honestly, I never tried to explain ppm, it just semed too complicated and these charts people use giving a ppm amount seem so foollish to me, saying have 850 in VEG, and I think how do you know what nutes he is using, or what ppm was already in his water, or how the pH Up or the pH Down or any catalysts or supplements are included in the ppm................

yet everyday here, newbies say, get that ppm up, or get that ppm down........go to 1200 ppm now, make me laugh.
You did the research, you did the work, you did the calculations, you did the math......I applaud you bro. You calculated how much was target ppm, and now you can know every day, if they are eating a lot, eating a little and how much they are eating without guessing by how much water they drank. You can play with it, and experiment by adding a very small amount, 25 ppm, for example, and when and if you see a little yellow leaf tip curling, back off, remove a gallon and add a gallon of plain water back..

The grow I am doing in my tutorial, I am being way over cautious feeding them, so I am not embarrassed. But normally, I push that ppm like I push
the gas pedal on the Interstate Highway, til it is time to hit the brakes. LOL.

Good luck , I'm still watching your grow.
 

tmsculli

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Thanks brother, I appreciate it. I wish we could have a secret bubbleheads meeting conference somewhere and all meet up and swap our delicious bubble-birthed-bud.
 

Roseman

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Thanks brother, I appreciate it. I wish we could have a secret bubbleheads meeting conference somewhere and all meet up and swap our delicious bubble-birthed-bud.

yes, it'd be nice, but some narc would show up and bust us all.
 

cruzer101

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Hey man, Cool reflector, I wish I could use wood like that but it is just too heavy.
I bet it was not easy drilling those holes.

On another note, the PPM thing. My opinion is your tap has some nutrients in it, you just dont know what it is. You can find your water company on the net and they publish whats in the water. At least you have an idea.

Thing is starting with 200ppm and adding nutrients to get to 500ppm you say you are really giving it 300ppm when your not. It is 500ppm.
Of what? you just dont know.

Of course you could do what i do and get a few 5 gallon bottles and go fill them up once a week with distilled or R/O. Then you know what you are starting with.

My opinion, That dont look like a light burn. leaf has to be pretty close for that to happen.
 

Knickers

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Ah, and I forgot, I have been building that second reflector for the main tub. I am almost done. Here is what I have so far.






The bulb that is in there is one of my 65 actual Watt 6500k cfls. I am going to put two of them in there and then 2 of the 2700k guys most likely.

I plan on doing my next very similar, but I'm feeling that I'd rather have the bulbs mounted alng the long side like your current reflector, but make it so that it hands flat/level.
 

tmsculli

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The first one that I made does hang relatively flat. The additional chain that is hooked to the front gets pulled up and tight to make it so that the lights are almost completely horizontal across it. The reason i did this set up for the second one is because this reflector is going to be over the main tank which is going to have more plants in it. I wanted the lighting to be a bit more spread out.


I do have a question though guys. How do you think I should set this up for the perpetual SOG deal? I can't exactly get a plan in my head about it./
 

cruzer101

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Hey bud,

I was messin around last night with the reflection of the sheet metal and when you said you were trying to spread the light
I thought I would show you what I found out. When the metal is bent like a half circle VS spreading it out it does not reflect
as much. I turned off all the light in the room but one and tested it.



Check it out It seems like by flattening it out a bit I get much more reflection.




Now I am just using one light but i thought you might want to know this.
 

Roseman

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I think that is one of the most brilliant test I have ever seen on this site. And to see it with our own eyes!

I applaud you, bro.
 

tmsculli

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Wow Cruzer, that is pretty cool man. Good to know if I ever fab up any in the future. Had a wicked ride on those chocolate boomers today. Had my shit rearranged again haha. Didn't check on my girls all day until now. They are fine though
 

MRsteverson

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looking good... i usually put the rockwool all the way to the bottom of the cup then i cover the rest with a neoprene insert. i figgure rockwool and hydroton are both medium and i saw no use for both..
 

Bob Smith

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Tmsculli, what kind of "round" air stones are you using? Asking because I'm not very happy at all with the blue bars that I get from Wal-Mart, and since I'm re-designing my system to go into five gallon buckets, I was curious as to what airstone you were using because you seemed to be a big fan of it.

Of course, if memory serves you're also going with a much larger pump (like a 100-150) versus the 20-60s that I plan on having per bucket, so that obviously helps out your airstone tremendously.

Thanks in advance for your help, kiddo.
 
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