My first whole room SCRoG
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jondamon
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Yes everything is equal apart from one thing.
the height of the pots as my drip trays are slightly slanted to create a runoff section. So left plant is slightly lower than right plant.
I’ll work it out though lol.
It was topped once or twice in the early stages. (like i quoted above, "maybe once or twice in the early stages. ")
I try have 2-4 main branches depending on how i'm feeling.
4 main branches can get REALLY messy as I'm filling 3x3-5x5 with single plants.
the SCROG end goal is to get all the branches/tops to be mains by having them as equal as possible. Auxins in plants favor top buds that's why you'll see top buds are always bigger. By doing the second method as in my diagram, they are all equal top buds (side buds end up being higher than the main bud after its bent to slow down the tip.)
I still have along way to go with SCROGGING as i get a dome affect, but slowly getting there. There are so many methods and I'm not saying one is right or wrong, but SCROGGING was invented to try and mimick SOG.
jondamon
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I topped mine for 4 but didn’t do a mainline kind of 4.
Thanks for the info. Next run will be another scrog and I’ll take on board what you’ve said and consult the LBH tutorial to make sure I can understand fully what you mean.
thanks for the insight.
as I said not offended in the slightest.
everyone has different ways of doing things and as this was my first whole room scrog it’s been a learning curve but thoroughly enjoyable so far and I’ve set out what I was hoping to achieve which is better uniformity.
thanks again.
Here's a quick tip.
By tying where you want to start horizontal growth,
The entire branch won't bend out diagonally and helps the branches after the bend to stay at the top!
EDIT : Oh i don't mainline at all! i just let them grow straight up and bend them a week b4 i flower.
Trust me when i say this. If i had gotten REAL help/advice on this before. I'd been a lot better off. I went through years trying to SCROG when I was really just lollipopping from all the mistruths online.
Also here's also photo of a grow when i THOUGHT I was scrogging!
I pretty much saved a week veg, raising the pots i utilized a lot of the early growth. And in the end, my canopy was thicker, more even and filled out the same space!
In the last photo , you can see an odd branch i bent like a square , it could've have been chopped but i decided to keep it.
By tying where you want to start horizontal growth,
The entire branch won't bend out diagonally and helps the branches after the bend to stay at the top!
EDIT : Oh i don't mainline at all! i just let them grow straight up and bend them a week b4 i flower.
Trust me when i say this. If i had gotten REAL help/advice on this before. I'd been a lot better off. I went through years trying to SCROG when I was really just lollipopping from all the mistruths online.
Also here's also photo of a grow when i THOUGHT I was scrogging!
I pretty much saved a week veg, raising the pots i utilized a lot of the early growth. And in the end, my canopy was thicker, more even and filled out the same space!
In the last photo , you can see an odd branch i bent like a square , it could've have been chopped but i decided to keep it.
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bk78
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Faster veg? Any true scrog I’ve ever seen has a way longer veg than any other method of growing. Please explain how you get a faster veg?
jondamon
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Do you know what I thought about using some garden wire to tie to the scrog but figured I wouldn’t need it once I started weaving lol.
My scrog was given approx 6-7 weeks of veg to get to flip point.
how much veg time did those you posted of your “true scrog” take to get stocks that big lol?
jondamon
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I think he means based on his intial scrog vs the “true scrog”.
bk78
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I quoted his post correctly I think?
“The goal of scrog is pretty much less wasteage, more efficient, faster veg”
Ive never seen a scrog veg less than 2 months to get result?
The trick is to get them tall, and bend them after.
That way, no growth was stunted and every single leaf site gets exposed to light even the bottom which didn't see the light for weeks.
I veg for 4-5 weeks from clone and get 1.5-2
So I'm not really pruning, mainlining, topping during most of my plants veg stage for fastest growth
Does that answer your question?
I'm also running a net frame on chains. The best I've seen with this method yield wise is from a 3m x 6m room. 8 plants, pulling #24.
You'll notice my net is steel. It needs to be taunt or the plant just lifts it up.
jondamon
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So you add your screen after veg and before flower?The trick is to get them tall, and bend them after.
That way, no growth was stunted and every single leaf site gets exposed to light even the bottom which didn't see the light for weeks.
I veg for 4-5 weeks from clone and get 1.5-2
Does that answer your question?
yeah I’m not going to do that as my plants stems would snap and not bend into the screen.
But like I said I will look over the LBH tutorial before the next one as I think I have found how I’m gonna grow from this moment on even if I end up keep going as I am lol.
I prefer the uniformity this allows me to create as I grow from seed every time I grow as I don’t have the ability any more to keep mothers etc.
bk78
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The trick is to get them tall, and bend them after.
That way, no growth was stunted and every single leaf site gets exposed to light even the bottom which didn't see the light for weeks.
I veg for 4-5 weeks from clone and get 1.5-2
So I'm not really pruning, mainlining, topping during most of my plants veg stage for fastest growth
Does that answer your question?
I'm also running a net frame on chains. The best I've seen with this method yield wise is from a 3m x 6m room. 8 plants, pulling #24.
You'll notice my net is steel. It needs to be taunt or the plant just lifts it up.
You’re telling me this is a 4 week vegged clone?
You’re so full of shit, I bet your eyes are brown too
I totally understand. I bend stems that are an inch in diameter. I use a bonsai trunk splitter.
bk78
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Do you have a documented journal of your 4 week veg and flip by any chance?The trick is to get them tall, and bend them after.
That way, no growth was stunted and every single leaf site gets exposed to light even the bottom which didn't see the light for weeks.
I veg for 4-5 weeks from clone and get 1.5-2
So I'm not really pruning, mainlining, topping during most of my plants veg stage for fastest growth
Does that answer your question?
I'm also running a net frame on chains. The best I've seen with this method yield wise is from a 3m x 6m room. 8 plants, pulling #24.
You'll notice my net is steel. It needs to be taunt or the plant just lifts it up.
jondamon
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bk78
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Figured so.
Yes I have a photo time lapse to prove it. But who am I kidding? Do I need to prove it?
Here's my roots too as of now in 7 gallons. Enough talk this is not even my thread and I guess people don't like to learn if you're doing better than them.
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I have a YouTube videos with a time lapse of my 4week veg from clone.